please come hold my hand,i'm regretting ds's jab!

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DS is 1.Got letter.At the time wanted it and thought better take it up quick.Researched for a few hours on mumsnet and government type websites and decided to have it but vaguely heard of the scare stories about squalene and thiomersal...dismissed it as i'm the sort who couldn't live with myself if ds got sf and was very ill/worse.No underlying conditions,but he was very bad with a cold that went to his chest not too long ago and i worry that he is too small to cope with sf.Sounds like a very nasty disease from posts i've read despite government saying it's mild.Day of jab i had jitters pretty bad,but once i got to surgery i was alright.I figured if my instincts said no i wouldn't be able to let them do it and walk out.No adverse effects so far(a week ago).Day after,jitters again,so more research,only to find out more scary info that made me feel sick to the pit of my stomach...suddenly thought..i shouldn't have consented.Ended up,next two nights spent researching for hours(yes i know,dangerous!).Was not happy.Ended up bawling my head off.Still feel crap.Just feel like the worst mum in the world for having gone along with it,why didn't i research more basics like statistics of sf for example?!!.So worried about squalene.Feel like i have let them inject poison into ds,scared now of long term effects.Sorry if i've scared anyone,but i just can't live with the decision now....how can i have been so naieve?!.Anyone else feel like this and how have you justified it to yourself,or am i in need of mental medical help do you think?.It's constantly haunting me
Thankyou for listening.Sorry about long rant.

Calm down - my daughter and I have had the jab and no long term effects. It was bad idea to spend hours on the web, and you can't unjab him, so instead make sure you are protecting his health and immune system as best you can through top quality diet, plenty of fresh air and sleep, and you will benefit too.

This isn't the last decision/situation you are going to spend hours agonizing over, just accept that we all do the best we can at any given time, and that is all we can do! How would you feel if he had got swine flu? My friend's daughter had it and was terribly unwell. I think we have to relax and prioritise our worries, because there is plenty to worry about out there, believe me!!

As the mother of an autistic boy, who was diagnosed pre-MMR jab, we agonized in exactly the same over whether he should have it, and when he did (5 years too late) nothing happened, and still hasn't (8 years on). He is the same boy he ever was. But I am probably several months short of a good night's sleep - and who did that help?

Never google.

You have done what all caring parents do everyday - make a decision based on the information given and then hope for the best.

FWIW I've had the youngest done, no side effects, and i'm glad. It may have been the wrong decision but that's what being a parent is about.

Obviously it's hard to give you a link and insist that it's true when there's so much rubbish on the web, but I've found several authoritative pages that explain this squalene scare and should reassure you and here is a very accessible one that sums things up quite well.

Remember that if there is the slightest hint of a scare, the media and conspiracy theorists will run with it and plaster it all over the web and it will come up in your searches, but very often these scares have no scientific basis. Sqalene is not a poison, it's in widespread use and the evidence doesn't show any worrying effects. The Gulf War Syndrome thing appears to be bollocks. There was a worry about whether it was safe for pg women, but that's because it's unethical to test things on pg women, not because any problem has been found.

That's not to say a vaccine can't be harmful but on balance swine flu is much more likely to be harmful to your DS than this vaccine is - on the basis of scientific and statistical results so far.

thankyou so much musical mum,smallorange and marineiguana,for your much needed support.You have all eased my mind a lot and i have read the Canadian link which is very reassuring.All the best to you and your families for the future.
I would still appreciate some more experience sharing/good advice/sensible links...is there any more mums who feel as i do or are as wise as these lovely three mumsnetters?
many thanks
happy x

I am not at all lovely but I can reassure you that 2 1/2 months on, my sons side effects are starting to subside. Now he only has a weekly burst of itching, rather than a full on panic attack with hallucinations of spiders under his skin, lasting many hours each night for the first month.

glad your ds is recovering 2010.did you have massive regrets then too ?.

Happy

my son actually had damage following a different jab and is severely disabled but even I would join with what the others have said.

There is very little chance that you have done your DS any harm at all.
Worrying to the extent you are is not helping you and certainly not going to help your son.
To put not too fine a point on it, you are being a bit silly really. I am not being mean but it is silly, isn't it?

Spending time researching in advance is one thing, researching after the jab has been given and there is nothing you can do to retract that decision is a waste of your time.

Please just leave it alone and concentrate on your Ds.
What happened to my son is rare and your worrying about it won't make it happen or not happen. I am pretty certain he will be absoloutely fine.
Stop googling

At some point I did, but then I figured, the side effects we could live with, they were not permanent (I hoped), and with my sons bad chest, I was more worried about the effect sf would have on him.

pagwatch...so sorry that happened to your son.It's very kind of you to come on here to reassure me.Thankyou for sharing your thoughts.I have put it in perspective now today,FINALLY,after all your comments and talking to my mum too today.It's made me realize that yes,i have been a bit silly ,especially in the light of all the worries you have all had.Definately going to stop googling scary links.Been up to my eyeballs in bad PMT paranoia all week,and been one of the most stressful weeks ever with other things.Anyway,pmt gone now and with it most of the anxiety.
I researched after the jab,because i have a DD too(7),and i bet she will be offered one next??!.Don't know what to do about that in the light of the extra facts i found out.Think i will just wait to see how it pans out and like you say concentrate on the present and on my kids.No doubt i am the type that would have been worrying too constantly about sf if no jab anyway.DD has a pretty bad chest too,so maybe?....(know what you mean 2010).
so appreciate all your help
thanks
happy x

I haven't decided on the jab yet but am very undecided so whatever we choose we are taking risks. There is no 'right way' with these types of things but as long as you are making the decision with what you think are best for your child at that time, then that is all that matters. Even if you are wrong. I have made some horribly hard decisions in my time, the worst there are in life as a parent and although it is natural to second guess, at some point you have to come to terms with your decision. i think the risks with this jab are very slim. These things in the jab were in all baby jabs till about ten years ago (I am not 100% sure).

""No doubt i am the type that would have been worrying too constantly about sf if no jab anyway.""

I am sure you are right. These are really harddecisions.
But usually, whatever you chose. Our children are nearly always fine. We are always talking pretty small numbers either with th eillness or with the jab

I am pleased you are feeling better.

FWIW my DD is 7 and has asthma and has not been offered the jab. I think under 5's are the higher risk group. So you may not have to worry about that one

jellybeans.thankyou for your wise words.you are right too{smile].
thanks again too pagwatch
hope you ala have good weekends.I will now.My mind is much calmer today
happy x
anymore stories or anyone want to vent?

There is no way I would allow any child of mine to be injected with any of the toxic filth recommended under the government's child poisoning schedule.

As far as I am concerned, vaccination is an ugly and brutal money-making racket disguised as disease prevention.

www.thinktwice.com

VINE

www.facebook.com/pages/Vaccination-Information-Network-VINE/69667273997?v=wall

Many if not most of the toxic effects of vaccines can be reversed with a homeopathic treatment system called CEASE by Dr Tinus Smits MD. There are CEASE practitioners in various countries.