I actually think I love the Daily Mail

[peacocks]

at least someone is concerned

that's your money they've got guys

But it's entirely normal that people high up in their industry - any industry - will sit on boards and be associated with large players in that industry. Do you really think Richard Branson etc. does not advise airport authorities or sit on user committees for airlines? Do you really think that medical scientists will not have alignments to drug companies?

It's not a big bloody conspiracy, that's just the way business works. I am tied to several big companies. Does that mean I can't act in the best interests of my industry - no of course it bloody doesn't. In fact it means I can influence at a high level when things are wrong.

I would frankly be much more worried if the people involved didn't have ties to pharmas - who wants the mavericks in control of the ship?

At least they declared their links unlike others who have made claims without declaring them. It's not a conspiracy - the flu virus kills thousands of people every year and it has long been known that we are overdue a major flu epidemic - swine flu fits that bill very well. As it is we were prepared for what could have been a massive problem - nothing wrong in that.
Thankfully this cold snap may have put paid to the virus if we are fortunate - and let's not forget that thousands have taken the anti-viral drugs which would have weakened the virus if they had come into contact with it.
No - the Daily Mail has nothing to glory about - just it's usual sensationalist reporting about medical scientists having links to drug companies - gosh who'd have thought it.

No it's not a conspiracy. It's boardroom planning, public relations and marketing.

Wmmc you should be careful what you wish for. You'd be burning Galileo with a sigh of relief that at least the right people are in charge.

Nothing, ever, could make me love the Daily Mail. I don't think

Not this, anyway.

I don't think those links prove that everything we have been told about Swine Flu was bullshit.

However I DO think that nearly everything we have been told about Swine Flu was bullshit

Yes. It's as I have always said. Drug companies create diseases in order to make governments pay lots of money.

It's all part of this

i'm not sure. I definitely think the statistics on swine flu are ludicrously unreliable, as is diagnosis.

eg dd had a temp of 38, vomiting, came on v suddenly, dr checks her over says 'i think it's swine flu, take her home and get some tamiflu' Within about 12 hours she was right as rain, didn't even have a chance to give her tamiflu. As far as i'm concerned it was just a 24 hr bug and Dr caused unnecessary panic (and earned himself an extra fiver) regarding something which ordinarily would haveonly merited a 'make sure she gets plenty of fluids, something to bring down temp, and rest'. Esp as i was 7 mths pg.

Fast forward a month, dd's poorly again,this time with a temperature which just won't go down, no matter how much paracetamol and ibuprofen we alternate. Cough, sore throat, general lethargy and just very poorly for days and days. On about day 4 her temp surges to 40, and she seems to be going into a seizure. We ring ambulance and i wait with her, terrified, opening all the windows even though it's snowing outside, in a desperate attempt to cool her down. We have a hellraising 20 mile ride to hospital on ice and snow only made bearable by the wonderful ambulance staff who take her into the resuscitation department. Once she seems stable, i try to glean from the staff what on earth they think it is. 'Just a virus' they say. 'Could this be swine flu?' 'Don't know, we're not able to run any tests here, anyway, so it would be pointless saying that it is... swine flu/ normal flu/ any virus, we jsut treat it the same way...'

Luckily, dd made a full recovery and we shall never know exactly what it was, but she's subsequently been sent a letter to go into the surgery and have the vaccine

The pharmaceuticals have always made pills for profit, this is no surprise is it?
I will never love The Mail, if I listened to them I'd never leave the house, what with all the murderers, diseases and peadofiles outside.