Are there any scares with Celvapan?

[Bodenbabe]

I've only heard scares about Pandremix - what about Celvapan? From reading about Celvapan, it seems like there have been far fewer trials on that, so wouldn't that make it just as scary as Pandremix?

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No idea what to make of it.

That was a massive oops on their part wasn't it! Would have been potentially very bad news if they'd released it.

I wonder why they did it kitten? Mixed the HN51 with seasonal flu? I don't believe they did it to release a deadly pandemic for a second but it would be good if they explained why they did it and put the conspiracies to rest.

It is utterly hard to fathom isn't it. I understand the desire to make H5N1 vaccines. I don't understand how the two could come together - were they experimenting with recombining or was it an accident? And it was sent to different places across Europe

They weren't very forthcoming on why/how it happened.

I really want to take the Pandemrix. I just can't quite get my head around why the States have not allowed squalene and the animal studies that suggest a link with arthritis and joint inflammation. Any thoughts bad kitten? [sorry for hijack]

I don't know why they've not allowed any adjuvants, other than because they've not allowed them previously for other jabs it would mean some kind of legislative change (I think) Came across
nytimes article which shows that they are having the debate toe other way round there!

dd gets her jab tomorrow btw. Not aure if she will need one or two as she is nearly 10.

Interesting isn't it. But I would feel much happier having the jab in the States, personally. Seems like they have a shortage though.

are you having the SF jab Lenin?

I'm struggling with the decision tbh Lenin. It will be even harder if I have to decide for dcs. I am unhappy about the adjuvant and can't get Celvapan.

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I've had a severe episode of arthritis in the past and it was crippling. Rather not have it again. This is not addressed at all by the DOH or WHO.

I rang gp that organises the flu jabs in our surgery. He said he cannot give Celvapan to anyone other than egg allergy sufferers. Supremely uninterested in the research. Not very helpful.

pofaced - if you GP is like us he couldn't give it to you even if he wanted to - he wouldn't even be able to get it for himself, our PCT isn't sending any celvapan to the GP surgeries and is running special egg-allergy clinics for the whole area instead.

Its the PCT you need to badger if you really think you should have that one.

(30 week pregnant GP, had pandemrix 2 weeks ago).

I rang our local PCT and whilt one person said no to me having Celvapan, another rang me back and said she'd add me to the egg-allergy clinic, even thoguh I don't have an allergy. So maybe ring and see if you can find a sympathetic ear?

Thanks for the interesting links on this thread Pofacedandproud

I have emailed PCT, last week, and heard nothing. I could try ringing I suppose, thanks.