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DH doing something I think is insanely dangerous

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turtle23 · 22/04/2009 08:42

I should really namechange as he'll kill me if he finds out I'm talking about this. Oh well. DH is the kind of fair that burns as soon as he looks at the sun. He has never had a real tan and spends loads of time and money on the fake stuff. Recently, he decided to take it one step further and has been injecting himself (yes INJECTING) with melanotan. He now looks like he is of a slightly different race he his so dark. He loves the way he looks and is hooked. I am terrified of him using a needle in the first place and also of injecting god knows what into his body. Anybody else ever heard of this?

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TitsalinaBumsquash · 22/04/2009 08:44

I have heard of it, its suoppsed to be dangerous isn't it? Eek! I would be quite pissed off if dp did this, can you google it and show him some horror stories or anything that may put him off?

Ewe · 22/04/2009 09:02

Oh turtle That is not good.

There was a programme on TV about this recently and a news article, it is so stupid of him to do this.

There must be a deeper issue here than just wanting to be brown?

squeaver · 22/04/2009 09:14

You need to find out some information about this and present it to him. Better still, get him to go and ask the doctor about it (unlikely I know).

Doesn't sound good does it?

Bluestocking · 22/04/2009 09:15

I'd never even heard of this but I've found this article from the Independent which suggests that doctors think this is a very bad idea. However, I think Ewe is right and there must be something more going on. OP, do you think your DH has some sort of body dysmorphia?

fartmeistergeneral · 22/04/2009 09:17

a drug originally developed as a skin tanning agent, but subsequently investigated as a potential treatment for sexual dysfunction

show him that.

Tortington · 22/04/2009 09:17

FOUND THIS HERE www.pharmacy-forum.co.uk/have-drug-related-question/1689-melanotan.html

NOV 2008

Hi folks, my first post here but since this i my specialist subject at the moment I thought i'd better chip in.

Before I continue, I am a drug researcher at Liverpool John Moores University. My remit centres around injecting drug use and to that end I also provide monitoring for needle exchange, both fixed site and pharmacy, as well as contributing to training across the north west.

So, having got that out of the way...this is the deal with Melanotan; by the way...this is the brief version, I am more than happy to provide people with more information if you wish.

Melanotan comes in two forms. Melanotan I & II. Melanotan II is the one that increases libido. The drug is an analog of alpha-melanocyte stimulating hormone which increases melanin production; the idea being to provide a sunless tan.

The drug is injected subcutaneously, usually in the belly fat somewhere near the belly button.

Only two companies have the licence for this drug - Clinuvel and Palatin - and it is in Phase III trials for a number of conditions (such as Polymorphous Light Eruptions). The Melanotan II version was trialed for sexual dysfunction but that has been discontinued due to the high incidence of hypertension amongst trial participants.

+++EDIT: Please note the high incidence of hypertension is more a feature of bremalnotide, the analogue of MT-II. However a small number of trial participants in teh most recent human trials of MT-II (2008) id experience rapid and extreme rises in blood pressure. Please note also, this may or may not be an issue for people buying it over the internet...but the fact they don't REALLY know what they are putting in the syringe is a much bigger one. The comment about hypertension may have been overstated but it was appropariate with informaion available to me at the time. I do make mistakes sometimes....surprisingly.. however hypertension is and remains an issue for some people with this drug++++

The drug people are buying from the internet, as well as some beauty salons/hairdressers/randoms in pubs..is originally sold as a "research peptide, not for human use". This is povided by other companies, including some in China - which given their recent record leaves me rather worried!

It is an unlicenced medicine and is illegal to sell but not to possess.

As regards the provision of injecting equipment for it - I would say yes, do it PLEASE!!!

The kits being provided, especially over the internet, are frightening to say the least. Inkjet printed labels stuck on supposedly sterile vials - or in the case of the ready mixed stuff we bought - small vials with caps that had clearly been prised off before the stuff was mixed. The kits have one or two syringes in them, unwrapped. Given the need for daily injections for 10 days or more to start with - providing one needle is scary to say the least.

We've had reports of groups of young girls sharing one syringe between them for two weeks. I think you'll agree there is a significant problem there.

For those providing syringe exchange; please do provide suitable kit (insulin needles) and advice on proper injection. In particular the inherent dangers in the following:

Re-using or sharing injecting equipment
Subcutaneous injection (much higher risk of bacterial infection...even if they do think they're "clean")
The difference between "clean" (i shower regularly) and "clinically clean" (i swabbed the injecting site first)

It could also be worth pointing out that, despite what it says on internet sites and forums - the drug has NOT been found safe for general human use, it is NOT licenced as a cometic..and won't be - and that the kits are not put together by people who really understand sterile procedure or human physiology. So the risks are actually quite high.

I hope this is of some use to you - feel free to contant me if you want any more information about it, or round needle exchange generally for that matter. Always happy to natter

turtle23 · 22/04/2009 09:40

Forgot to add that DH is getting hundreds of needles from a needle exchange. Nice, hope he doesn't get seen by anyone. Still, at least they're clean needles. With regards to the sexual dysfunction thing...think about that carefully. That will not put any man off. He is much hornier and has massive erections (sorry if TMI). He doesn't see that as a bad thing. (I do, though, I'm pg and couldn't care less.)

It's like talking to a brick wall. He's just seeing the colour.

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Ewe · 22/04/2009 20:28

It doesn't seem like the best of ideas having hundreds of needles in the house if your DS is anything like my DD (and I think he is, climbing much!? ).

He really needs to grow the hell up and start acting like an adult, he is being so selfish. I really just don't get it [baffled].

turtle23 · 23/04/2009 07:59

Ewe- yes. it isn't ideal, is it? I can't tell you how much arguing has come from this. I have made him put all of it in the loft as it is the one place I am pretty sure DS can't get to...yet. He just doesn't see it as being dangerous. His argument is that in the old days (like a year before we started trying for DS) we both used to indulge in the occasional illegal substance and we "didn't know what we were doing then" That may be true, but FFS everything changes when you have kids and it really is time for him to stop being a child. I guess I will have to let him make his own decisions, as he is an adult, but I feel like he must not love his DS very much if he's willing to leave him fatherless when what he orders off of the internet turns out to be lethal.
(am slightly tempted to replace it all with something benign...)

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melanotan · 24/04/2009 02:06

"(am slightly tempted to replace it all with something benign...)"

If you do this you will very likely make him sick. It is extremely easy to introduce bacteria into a given vial. You would most certainly do such a thing if you were to be tampering with what he uses. Such tampering can absolutely have grave consequences. I would advise you to rather do your best using logic and reasoning to convince to stop his melanotan II usage.

twinsetandpearls · 24/04/2009 02:36

As someone who has huge body issues think your dh could put me to shame. This is about more than tannng. Does he obsess about his appearance generally? Does he have confidence problems?

turtle23 · 24/04/2009 07:57

melanotan- obviously i am joking. sheesh. Btw, are you actually a MNer or have you crashed our forum to talk about melanotan?

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turtle23 · 24/04/2009 08:04

twinset- yes, it is a problem. Since we got married I have convinced him he doesn't need lifts in his shoes (he's 5'8 which is FINE), have stopped him creating a pretend hairline by painstakingly picking out hairs with mascara (he's nearly bald), and am currently on a gentle campaign to convince him he doesn't need to dye his eyebrows. He has changed his body completely through weighttraining and is always on a mission re self development in the emotional/spiritual sense. He flirts outrageously and talks to anybody who'll listen in what is obvious to me is a bid for attention/for people to like him. I have suggested kindly that maybe he should talk to someone but he thinks that I am odd for suggesting he has a problem. I honestly don't know what to do. He hates the fact that I am not body/beauty obsessed (He thinks everyone should be.) I love him to bits, but he has issues.

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melanotan · 24/04/2009 13:07

"melanotan- obviously i am joking. sheesh. Btw, are you actually a MNer or have you crashed our forum to talk about melanotan?"

Was I talking about melanotan peptide usage in my last message? Did I not actually suggest that you do your best to convince him to stop with the melanotan II?
I saw a line you wrote that was cause for concern and I responded. My first post was to inform people of a safer alternative on the horizon, one that will be approved, regulated and doctor administered. Essentially what my addition of that was about was so that you could actually suggest that he hold off until that safe alternative become available (and if you read the article I linked then you'd know that it doesn't appear that folks will have to wait long).

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