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Seven year old has headaches nearly every day: or does she?

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soyabean · 19/03/2003 18:50

Wonder if anyone else has experience of this? My dd is nearly 8, very healthy and happy I would say, (tho perhaps rather sensitive). For the past few weeks, and for several periods before this, she has complained of headaches, as soon as she gets up, and during the day, after school, regularly throughout the day. More on school days but at the w/e sometimes too. She is eating and sleeping very well, and doing well at school. I tend to think it is not anything serious, as when distracted she is fine, and it almost never stops her from doing things. She can be a bit sensitive to all the friendship toings and froings at school but basically has a wide circle of friends. Her teacher is sweet and on the lookout for anything, but says that she will usually complain of a headache once or twice per day, but rarely asks to stop doing whatever the class is doing. Occasionally there have been upsets with friends, but rarely lasting more than a day.
So, is it real or phantom? I just dont know. I try to react sympathetically but without letting her have time off school or anything. I really dont think she is ill, but I also dont think she could keep it up if it was completely fictional. I give her calpol if its bedtime, or if she seems particularly upset by it, but dont want to be dosing her every day. We had the same thing a couple of years ago, and had her eyes tested just in case, but they are fine.
Any suggestions or comments welcomed!

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Tinker · 19/03/2003 18:53

I did read an article once about this. A withdrawal effect of Calpol can be a headache, so you give more and the cycle starts. It doesn't sound like you are giving it every day but, if you are, maybe try to go a week without giving any?

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MABS · 19/03/2003 20:48

Hi Soyabean - I have been going through exactly the same thing with my dd who was 8 yrs in Feb. It satrted in December and I ignored it at first, then after a month i took it seriously. If you lokk at thes threds ,which I started earlier, it will show you what happened with us...
'MRI Scan - general anaesthetic or not'
'Benign Intracranial Hypertension.'

My dd has been on beta blockers for 2 months and nurofen, but now we're off both. Do hope you are both ok.

threeangels · 19/03/2003 21:37

Hi soyabean - found this sight on childhood headaches if your interested. I honestly dont think a child especially this age would consistently complain about having headaches unless it were for real. Hope she feels better soon.

threeangels · 19/03/2003 21:39

Hi soyabean - found this sight on childhood headaches if your interested. I honestly dont think a child especially this age would consistently complain about having headaches unless it were for real. Hope she feels better soon.

Headaches may be symptoms of other physical conditions. For that reason, it is VITAL that they be properly diagnosed.

As with adults, tension-type headache (TTH) is the most common type of headache for children. Approximately 75% of children who experience frequent headaches are diagnosed with TTH. There are two types of TTH ? episodic, which occurs several times per month; and chronic, which occurs 15 or more times per month. It was long thought that TTH did not have the hereditary factor that migraine has, but more recent research leans more toward the presence of strong genetic influence.

Symptoms:

pain is usually on both sides of the head, but may be anywhere on the head
pain is often described as band-like, dull, pressing, or aching
pain is unilateral (one-sided) in approximately 20% of patients
pain is usually mild to moderate
lasts 30 minutes to seven days
tenderness of the head
tightness of the muscles in the neck and shoulders
difficulty concentrating
heightened sensitivity to light or noise, but not both
some kids will have trouble sleeping or will awaken earlier than usual
Triggers:

Though the root cause of TTH is now thought to be a genetic susceptibility to such headaches, the individual headache episodes are triggered by various and differing things in the child's life. These triggers will vary from child to child. Some of the more common triggers of TTH are:

irregular sleep schedule or not enough sleep
stress/tension at home or school
problems with self image
missed meals
bright lights
cigarette smoke, including second-hand
the death of or separation from a loved one
Treatment:

If a tension-type headache can be relieved by relaxing, taking a warm bath, using an ice pack, or taking a nap, that's the best course of action. This does work in some cases. If not, medications are tried, beginning with the simplest of over-the-counter analgesics and moving up from there to prescription medications. Medications with Aspirin are generally not recommended for children under 14 because of the possibility of Reyes Syndrome. Some of the medications used are:

Acetaminophen
Aspirin
Naproxen
Ibuprofen
Aspirin-Caffeine combinations
Ibuprofen-Caffeine combinations
Midrin
Norgesic Forte
Indomethacin
Vioxx
When TTH is occurring too frequently, medications may be prescribed to prevent the headaches. Some of the medications used are:

Depakote (anticonvulsant)
Elavil, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil (antidepressants)
Aleve, Naprosyn, Anaprox, Ansaid, Orudis (Nonsteroidal Anti-Inflammatory)
Occasionally a combination of two of these medications
It should be noted that finding effective preventive therapy does not happen overnight. A fair trial can take up to up to six months of physician supervision. A headache diary should be kept faithfully during this period. Giving up after a short period of time robs the patient of the potential benefits of the preventive medications.

In addition to medications, stress management education and counseling are often helpful for children, especially teens, who are experiencing TTH. As adults, we sometimes forget just how stressful those years of high expectations and peer pressure can be. Additional treatment methods that have proven useful are biofeedback and relaxation techniques. For many children, the most successful method of management is a combination of medications and and other methods.

robinw · 19/03/2003 22:09

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Veggie · 20/03/2003 16:07

Hi Soyabean. I started suffering from headaches as a child (don't remember how old I was when it started - somewhere under 12). After undergoing many tests (including checking whether I had a tumour - as my grandmother had one)I was diagnosed as suffering from migraines - like my mother when she was a teenager! It was set off i.e. by sleeping more than 8 hours a night, spending too much time in the sun, overexhaustion - i.e. a school cycling trip. Still get migraines occasionally now and find that an icebag on the forehead can help just as much as pills.

soyabean · 26/03/2003 21:01

Thanks so much all of you for responding. Sorry to write the question and then appear not to care about the answers; the day after writing it I had to go away suddenly cos of a death in the family, and have been away for 6 days. Back tonight, completely exhausted, and no time or energy to read all your posts in detail but I will do so in the next day or two. I really appreciate you all taking the time to write. And my daughter, bless her, told me on the phone while I was away that the headaches had been much better. But she is so incrediibly kind and thoughtful that it crossed my mind that she could even have said that to try and console me! Anyway, will give it all some serious thought and readyou suggestions carefully very soon.

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soyabean · 29/03/2003 18:04

Hi all
Thanks again, have read all yr messages now. DD says she is fine at the moment, hasnt had a headache for a few days. So thats good, tho they have come and gone in the past.
Tinker: will bear that in mind re Calpol overuse, but I have been trying not to give it every day.
Sobernow: I am trying to get her to drink more, but I dont think she is short of water intake. But I do wonder if just having me show her i was taking it seriously and talking about going to the dr/another eye test, etc, has made her reduce the complaints. It feels mean to mistrust her, but I really feel that I dont know whether this is real or not, or how bad is a 'bad headache'.
Mabs, I have looked at yr MRI thread: wow, you have had a horrible time. How is yr dd now that she is off the medication? Hope she is well.
Threeangels, that is a lot of really useful info, thanks so much. I will keep it handy ready for the next time so we can try to find out exactly where the pain is. And the suggestion of a headache diary is a v good one. In a way I do agree that a child this age couldnt make up regular headaches, but I think there are several possibilities: she does occasionally get them and associates extra attention and sympathy with that; or she is worried about something which makes her tense, either causing a headache or causing a feeling that she can only describe as a headache, or she really does have headaches a lot of the time. Anyway I am very grateful for all that info.
Robinw the tree pollen idea is new to me, but would that be likely to make her wake up with a headache, as we have no trees near us ? And sorry, what is TMJ?
Veggie, did sleeping 'too much' actually make your headaches worse? Will try ice on dd next time, good suggestion.
Well, thanks to you all, it is fantastic to get so many helpful replies.

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robinw · 30/03/2003 09:20

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soyabean · 30/03/2003 18:03

Robinw thanks for all that. Sorry you are having problems with your dm's nursing home, hope it really is sorted out. My stepfather died last week in a nursing home while my poor dm was staying with me, hundreds of miles away. So it has been a difficult time...
Will keep aware of the tree pollen thing, it sounds like a possibility. Dont think she grinds her teeth, but i had terrible sinusitis last year, and didnt even consider that for her; how useful it is to bounce these worries and thoughts off other people!
Thanks again

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soyabean · 30/03/2003 18:03

Robinw thanks for all that. Sorry you are having problems with your dm's nursing home, hope it really is sorted out. My stepfather died last week in a nursing home while my poor dm was staying with me, hundreds of miles away. So it has been a difficult time...
Will keep aware of the tree pollen thing, it sounds like a possibility. Dont think she grinds her teeth, but i had terrible sinusitis last year, and didnt even consider that for her; how useful it is to bounce these worries and thoughts off other people!
Thanks again

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lou33 · 30/03/2003 19:24

Sorry to hear your news soyabean, I hope you and your mum can be of comfort to each other. Robin I had wondered where you had gone, how is your mum? (apologies for going off track here.)

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