Exasperated mummy are you around?!!

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Exasperatedmummy....how did you get yourself to the doctors?
I just can't do it!!!

sorry...I know you have read my threads and you have reassured me before.
This gallstone thing is freaking me out!! If it is that and now I feel a chest infection coming on.
I'm thinking of going to one of those bupa well woman things...you get an hour with the doctor and some tests.

Sorry, i have only just read this - are you OK?

Sometimes i really battle with going to the doctors, but then something clicks in my head and i have to go, like NOW!!! i have marched into my surgery and begged to be seen before now. They are used to me .

As you see from my thread, i can tie myself up in knots over soemthing and nothing.

Remind me, have you been to the doctors re the gallstones, was it you that have the liver enzymes raised? And i told you it was most likely due to gallstones?

I would never be brave enough to do the bupa thing, im quite paranoid about finding things out on a routine screen. BUT i do think its a good idea.

I just get to a point where the worrying about what might be wrong with me is worse than actually finding out there is something wrong, iyswim.

I have been using breathing exercises lately, that helps alot, just slow deep breathing, its quite difficult to concentrate just on your breathing, but it really helps.

Get yourself some bachs rescue remedy, and when you feel strong, go to the doctors, but if you can't face it, you must make yourself put things out of your mind.

CAT me if you want my email address

Hi,

Thanks for getting back to me..and turning into nut case here.
I know you read my gallstones thread.
I still have ache/stinging/pain going round to my back. It does come and go. Shoulder still bit sore.
I have to take DS for jab next week and fear the doctor will say why haven't I had retest! it's 2mths over due. They may think I haven't been good bout the drinking.
I'm having gov recommended amount 14 units a week..sometimes less..sometimes bit more.
But quite frankly all this worry I could get shitfaced this week.
My DH has given up smoking and weed. I am down to 7 a day. It's been bit tense.
I have been back on web and covience myself that have bad stuff wrong with me from anyalising liver test stuff!!

Any words of wisdom..advice??

I may have to reply tomorrow...PC keeps crashing.

P.S- I have swallon gland too...convienced self it's because I have killer virus. But it's been like it since I had a tooth out 4 mths ago and i prod it constantly checking size etc!!
Hope to speak tomorrow and yes I may email you direct..although I don't want to send you mad with my worries as well!!
Thanks for getting back to me.

I used to get that, right in the middle of my back and an ache/stinging pain is the best way to describe it - that or being stabbed!

Stop prodding, you aren't giving it time to go down - hark at me, i should take my own advice!!!

Im not sure i have any words of wisdom to offer, and if you read my thread you will realise of course that i might not be the best person to advise. But it is easy when it is someone else, to be objective and logical.

Go and have the second test, but try to cut out the booze completely before you do - maybe for a week? If it is still high then the doctor will decide what to do i guess - but from what you tell me, i don't think gallstones will be very far from the top of his list of possibilities.

I have really cut back on my drinking and i do feel better for it actually. Sticking to beer instead of wine, i only want a drink, i don't want to get drunk, so a pint just fills the gap. But alcohol is a depressant and a mood elevator, so if you are anxious then alcohol will only serve to make you feel worse.

If this is making you feel so bad, i think you need to bite the bullet and go back to the doctor, for the sake of your sanity. FWIW, my doctor never mentioned my untaken blood test. I was supposed to have one about a year ago too, didn't bother, they never mentioned it.

take gaviscon for the back pain

Really..god i hope so. I supose doctors have so many patients!

It's like you said..if your liver was poorly you would probably be quite ill and very tired..which I am not.

You mentioned that the liver test ratios normally indicate stuff. I have had two now...do you think if they thought it was anything like hepatis they would know by now??
I have a 3yr old and a 2 yr old. I know I had aids tests..but I can't remember the other ones. I had two c sections...wouldn't something have shown up then??
I think thats my biggest fear and the fact I googled it and freaked self out.

Your right...I need to take two weeks completly off the booze..which is fine. I mean since doctor told me I sometimes have a week off. I'm just scared it's not good enough. i guess thats because I feel bad that I had got into the habit of drinking after my daughter.
To be honest when you have 2 kids 13mths apart it's enough to drive you to drink!! My two are my life..but they are very busy full on kids!!

I just need to book that appointment!!
It's funny because you are the best person to talk to...because like me you are probably very good at being logical for other people. It's just our own worries we can't deal with.

I read that link for the 'no panic' site. It's very useful about health anxeity , but off course I read liver tests and all it kept on about was hep, liver diease...bla bla. Nothing about the fact that other stuff can raise your liver enzemes!!

I'm not to anxious today..but I can feel it coming on later for the weekend!

I have to say..having this constant fear is very time consuming. I don't seem to do anything at work lately.
I'm in an office on my own with full use of web...recipe for disaster for me!!!

STEP AWAY FROM THE GOOGLE BUTTON!!

Right - you do NOT have hepatitis OK!!! You say they did HIV tests when you were pregnant. SO, they will have tested for hep at the same time. They tested me for Hep despite my refusal because i have tattoos, i was a tad but relieved that i could put that particular demon to bed. Then of course i got the gall stone flare up after DD was born.

When i talk about ratios of enzymes, i don't mean in two separate tests. They usually test for two liver enzymes when they do a total profile test. It is the ratio of these to one another that can give an INDICATION, of what might be going on. They will run a test for billirubin in the blood if they do a liver function test as this gives an idication of whether or not the liver is struggling. Billirubin is what makes us go yellow in jaundice. This can happen with gallstones sometimes, it usually means, go to the doctors NOW as your bile duct is blocked. But really, don't worry about this, you would know all about it if it were i promise you.

I am very much like you, a bury my head in the sand merchant, but it is soooooo destructive, it just gets to the point where things wont go away and there is a voice in the back of my head all the time, not only is it time consuming it is soul destroying.

The problem with the internet is the horrid stuff just jumps right on out at you and its scares you shitless, you are too scared to read or believe the more logical stuff, i absolutely NEVER ever google EVER. You also have to remember that a great deal of the stuff you read on google and wikipedia is not peer reviewed, which means it could be blatant bullshit!

I think you need to go back to your doctor and have a chat with him, tell him, if he is sympathetic that you were too scared to have the retest but now you are really worried, ask for some reassurance. Tell him about the back pain. Or her!!! But while you are there, and this is really important - tell him you are struggling with anxiety generally and see about getting some medication for it. It isn't a miracle cure, but it does tame it to a managable level, most of the time (hence my thread the other day - funnily enough my lumps have gone down now i have LEFT THEM ALONE!!!).

In the nice easy logical world it would be easy to say, get your arse along and be retested but i know where you are coming from with that. It is also the not getting the results straight away.

I used to be a veterinary nurse and i have X-rayed both myself and my DP for things in the past that i just couldn't WAIT for the results for. Once because i thought i had broken my ankle (i was attacked by a dog and sprained it when i fell trying to restrain the monster animal) and once because DP had a lump which i thought was a ganglion (harmless) but he went to the doc who wouldnt tell him what she thought it was, and that he should see his own doctor ASAP - I X-rayed it and took it over to a friend of mine who is a GP to confirm it was OK. My dog died from bone cancer so i was paranoid about it I know that wasn't really the done thing to xray msyelf but there was a vet present and my GP friend had said it was OK.

you are right I know.

The other thing i started fretting about is last year I kept taking codine phosphate for headaches from Bells Palsy I had and then I kept taking nurofen like bloody sweets.

Do you think that will be out of my system by now?
Freaking out incase damaged anything!!
God would they know. How embarassing!

Please don't freak me out with answer.

It was over a year ago!!

I have a friend who is a consultant out in Austraila who started getting headaches and feeling bit sick...so gave himself an MRI scan.

So don't worry about the dog thing..I mean this guy is totally grounded...deals with death on everyday occurance and googled his symptoms and scaned himself.
What hope have we got???!!

ooo I forgot say...I guess if the second test was showing signs of improvement the doc wouldn't have sent me away for 2 mths..right? He would have asked me to come back in a month like after the first test?

OK - i'm not a doctor, so i really think you should see one - you are driving yourself mad with this, you are "reasoning" and i do this so much.

Taking that many pain killers would definately give your liver a hard time, but the liver is very good at putting itself to rights. So probably wouldn;t be the reason for the raised test this year i wouldnt have thought. The liver is pretty much the most resiliant organ we have, which is just as well the way we all abuse it. Fatty foods, alcohol, pain killers will ALL make your liver work hard. And actually that will cause a raise in enzymes in the blood, regardless of any damage. I still am suspecting gallstones, which would cause the enzymes to be raised because of interfering with the bile duct, so a blockage issue as apposed to damage. This is so easily sorted out for you - stop suffering in silence and go to the doctors. For me!! Promise?

So, this was a second test that you have had? Im confused, i thought you haven't had the second test yet? The reason why he sent you away was to give things a chance to change, if they are going to settle down it wont happen overnight so 2 months seems about right. BUT if the doctor had any serious concerns he would have had you back sooner i promise you. The doctors wont chase you up though, YOU have to go back to them, but he would have suggested an appointment sooner.

I'm always here, far too much, so please keep posting, but stop driving yourself nuts.

YOu are right.
I need to be logical.

I didn't have this health anxiety...actually just generally feeling on edge until I had the children.

I think I have some underlying issues...

Too much partying years ago...if you know what I mean?
Generally just being far to carefree.

Now I am becoming the model citzen...ha ha...well aimimg to be...I feel like I'm going to be punished for all those carefree days! Does that make sense.

I think I have the OCD thing too....If I am good person..nothing will happen to me or my family!

I orginally went to the doctors because of the palpatitions, this started over xmas(which quite frankly was just another chore!) and just felt like I couldn't concentrate(one of symptoms for hep!!!google that!!!!)started new job..got new childcare..brain overload no doubt.
So she put me on betablockers didn't really work..but in hinsight probably didn't let them work.
Went back to doc's after a holiday in Austraila as felt a bit odd out there, like I couldn't stand the heat on my chest( i love the sun), the palpations were quite strong, just felt bit aggitated and thats when it all started!!!Plus I had lost quite alot of weight. That seems to have evened it's self out now.
Did bloods..thyroid, kidneys etc etc and I was worried because I had been drinking nearly a bottle of wine per night for two years and the bloody codine phosphate...didn't tell doc about the codine as I hadn't touched it in months.
I called for results..nurse said all ok..relaxed..then we all got chest infections. booked app and doc said had anyone told me about some protein in my blood!!!!! I was nearly sick with fear.
Told him what I had been drinking. He told me to cut down..take 2 to 3 days off come back in month.
Did that..although should have cut down more on drinking days really. Started running..eating better..felt better.
Went back for retest..called for results..nurse said fne..just book routiene app with doc..fuck...what now! I called doc as just need to know there and then.

He said enzemes still bit raised and just pop back to see him in a week!
So i did..he said address it bit more and cut down bit, do another test in 2 mths(he put to monitor on blood form and added Gamma GT extra test)!! He did not say abstain at any point..even when I asked. But as I said I have often had 4 days off 7 days off...BUT I have been to scared to go back, especially now I have this pain thing...god...could it be any near to your liver if it is gallstones to freak me out??!!! Even the bloody site for gallstones links you to hep site!!!!!!

Anyway..theres my history..I've lost the plot and you are right I need to see doc before i have retest to explain fears!

Thank you for listening.

forgot to say...if my DH knew how much i was writing on this site...think i may be carted of to funny farm!
He knows I worry..but I haven't told him my complete fears..he is very matter a fact...what will be will be. Just go to doctors..it will be fine!

He is probably right

Seeing as the gallbladder sits right under the liver, more or less smothered by it, is it any wonder that you are getting pain there. You really must go back to the doctors you know, you could be me. I went around thinking i had hepatitis B for 4 years! How mad is that.