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No point in buying suncream higher than factor 30???????

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chipmonkey · 04/07/2008 00:23

is what I was told in the pharmacy today. I was buying suncream for ds4 who is 9 weeks old and the assistant showed me some which was factor 40. I asked if they had the same cream in a higher factor which she did but then informed me that factor 30 was full protection and that it was pointless going any higher. I bought the factor 50 anyway but is what she said correct? Instinctively I feel not, because even with factor 40 on all day, the other boys still got a hint of a tan.
Can anyone enlighten me?

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Tinker · 04/07/2008 00:27

No, I've heard this before. I think (think!) that in Australia they're not allowed to advertise it as higher than Factor 30. The difference between 30 and higher is just too negligle but is used as an excuse to charge a higher price.

harpomarx · 04/07/2008 00:29

I think I've even heard that not much above a factor 15 makes any difference but I could be imagining that!

am using factor 25 (I think) on dd, seems fine, though she is dark-skinned.

Tinker · 04/07/2008 00:29

First link I found

zazen · 04/07/2008 01:47

I use a zinc oxide factor 25 on my olive skinned DD, and a sun hat - and I use a chemical factor 15 (in foundation) on my face even in winter.
We don't burn, but don't look like under water cave dwellers either.

Twinkie1 · 04/07/2008 06:48

I use factor 75 Aveeno spray on DS and DD and 45 on me - never knew that it isn;t worth getting over 30!

SqueakyPop · 04/07/2008 06:52

The SPF tests can't distinguish between factor 30 and anything supposedly above. There is no guarantee or reasonable expectation that you are getting anything better for the extra dosh.

Shoshe · 04/07/2008 07:08

I usually put factor 50 on red head mindee, and she dosnt burn (this child even burns on a bright winter day, without any suncream) I took factor 30 the other day by mistake and she burned!, I will stick to the 50.

LisaLessLumpy · 04/07/2008 07:31

Suncream doesn't stop you getting a tan, it stops you burning. The factor part means for example, Factor 15 means you can stop in the sun 15 times longer without burning, Factor 50 means 50 times longer. So for example if you were to burn in one minute of being outside, a factor 50 means you could stay out for 50 mins without burning. As far as I can tell from listening to all the blurb on telly

FluffyMummy123 · 04/07/2008 07:32

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LisaLessLumpy · 04/07/2008 09:53

From the cancer research site....

Cheap sunblocks are usually just as good as expensive ones. They are all tested the same way and it is the the level of protection they give you against the sun that matters most. This is the 'sun protection factor' or SPF.

Do check the 'use by' date. Most creams will last about 2 or 3 years - so it is OK to use last year's, but not a bottle from 5 years ago!

Sun creams have changed a lot in the past 15 years. There is a huge range and it can be difficult to know what to buy. You should choose one that says it protects against both UVA and UVB radiation from the sun. This may be labelled 'broad spectrum'.

The SPF tells you the amount of protection the sun cream gives against UVB radiation. We recommend at least factor 15. This is because it gives the best balance between protection and cost. The higher factor creams are more expensive, but do not give much more protection than factor 15. If you use

  • Factor 15, only 7% of the harmful UVB rays will get through
  • Factor 30, only 4% of the harmful UVB rays will get through
  • Factor 60, only 2% of the harmful UVB rays will get through

So you can see, you are getting some more protection with the most expensive creams, but not that much more. There is no sun cream that can give you total protection. 98% protection (with factor 60) is about the best you will get.

UVA protection is shown by 0 to 5 stars. But, this is only a rough guide because it is also affected by the SPF. A cream with SPF 25 and 3 stars may give more UVA protection overall than a cream with SPF 10 and 4 stars.

Don't assume that because you have put on sun cream, you can stay out without burning. Keep an eye on your skin (and your children's skin) at all times. Children have thinner, more delicate skins than adults and are at higher risk of burning. It is best to use waterproof sun cream because it is less likely to be sweated or washed off.

Putting your cream on

Firstly, you should put your sun cream on before you go in the sun. Then put on another layer to make sure you haven't missed any bits. Put it on before moisturiser, make up or insect repellent. It must go on before anything else so it is next to your skin.

Sun creams rub off. Even if they say they are waterproof, they may come off when you are swimming. In order to get the best protection, you must re-apply them often - at least every two hours. And more frequently if it is washed, rubbed or sweated off.

You must apply sun creams thickly. Nearly everyone puts them on much too thinly and so they don't get as much protection as is specified on the bottle. It is difficult to tell you how much to use on a website, but as the Aussies say, slap it on. You should be able to see and spread it very easily. If it all disappears as soon as you start rubbing it on, you haven't used enough. About a golf ball sized dollop should do for small children.

If your whole family only uses one bottle throughout a 2 week holiday, you definitely aren't putting it on thickly enough. We know it can be expensive, but if you aren't getting the protection you should, you are just wasting what you have spent. Better to buy more and put it on properly. As a fraction of your holiday cost, it really isn't very much.

Usually, the higher the SPF, the more the product costs. But we'd rather you used factor 15 than were put off altogether by the cost of the higher factor creams and lotions.

amazonianwoman · 04/07/2008 13:56

I always go for minimum SPF 30, but *always8 check that it also offers 5 star UVA protection as well. The key thing to remember is to reapply FREQUENTLY. I've already had malignant melanoma, so I'm determined my kids won't change colour in the slightest!

As per msg below, difference between 30 & 60 is nominal. I just use SPF 60 on me/kids if I can't reapply as frequently, eg if on bike for hours, or before DD goes to school on hot day.

amazonianwoman · 04/07/2008 13:57

I always go for minimum SPF 30, but always check that it also offers 5 star UVA protection as well. The key thing to remember is to reapply FREQUENTLY. I've already had malignant melanoma, so I'm determined my kids won't change colour in the slightest!

As per msg below, difference between 30 & 60 is nominal. I just use SPF 60 on me/kids if I can't reapply as frequently, eg if on bike for hours, or before DD goes to school on hot day.

amazonianwoman · 04/07/2008 13:57

oops

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