DD2 has just fainted after hurting herself - is this normal?

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Hi DD2 has done this about once a year (she is now 4) - if she really hurts herself - today she fell off a small table and winded herself - then she goes all floppy and 'passes' out.

It is really scary when it happens - it looks as if she isn't breathing.

When we spoke to the dosctor about it a couple of years ago they said not to worry - but this has never happened with dd1.

Any one else got a simlilar experience?

Does she turn blue in the lips or fingers? Is she confused when she comes out of it? Personally I'd go back and demand a second opinion. It is probably nothing serious but you can't take the risk can you?

Very common.

this sounds like 'anoxic seizures'

go and look here

utterly fab place and helped me lots when DD3 was first dx'd.

HTH, and please, try not to panic. It does no lasting harm, and even tho it is terrifying, it is the body and heart 'righting' itself after a shock, in an unusual way.

DD3 had her first 'episode' at 20mths, she is now 9, rarely has problems, and is honestly, quite ok on that front. (other health issues, but not connected).

Thanks Phycomum - will have a look at the website.

What you describe is what the doctors said to me. I'm not reaaly anxious - but dd2 hasn't had an episode for over 12 months until tonight so I thought she grown out of it.

Oh well - best pour myself another glass of wine and read up!

I did it a couple of times when I was younger, the first time I cut my elbow, saw blood and passed out. The next few times I just passed out - panic I think.

Worth mentioning to the Dr if you are concerned though.

website is very good.

honestly.....as much as it is terrifying, it is also fairly common!!!

my DS1 also did it, altho he 'only' went blue, DD3 went grey. once DD3 started it tho, I then found out that my mother had also doen similar, so it seems to be a family trait........my cousin was also the same.

DD3 was longer 'out' however, and I often dialed 999 for her. DS1, he did it a few times, each time scared me until the very last time (he was 5) and he went blue as I walked out of the room. as I was not there to catch him, I think the thus onto the floor scared him so much he never did it again. DOC did say it can be attention.....I never believed that even tho DS1 never did it again when I 'ignored' him.....I think it ws simply his rage, and as that wasn;t taken notice of, he tried a different route IYGWIM.

DD3 however......she still blanks me now, and altho pain does not make her faint anymore, she still reacts with dizzy spells.

I used to faint regularly as a child - usually as the result of pain from a knock or something, and then regularly from period pain from the age of 11 onwards. Horrible - fainting is awful . Might be worth mentioning it to your GP though.

Ds did this once when he was about 20 months and my gp said it was reflex anoxic seizures as Pyschomum said. He hit his head at Tumble Tots, passed out, stopped breathing, his eyes rolled back and he went blue. After about 1 minute (felt like 10 minutes) he just started breathing again. It scared me to death but we have been very lucky, he's never done it since and he's now 3 1/2. Even when he broke his arm and dislocated his elbow he didn't do it. I think it was just a one-off for him. We were also told it does no lasting damage and is not linked in any way to epliepsy. Maybe you ought to get her checked out to be on the safe side. I too used the Stars website and they were very helpful.

Yes it does sound like reflex anoxic seizures, which may dd1 has. Apparently it is identifiable by the fact that they turn white - not only do they stop breathing, but their heart rate decreases as well, hence turning white. My dd1 sometimes also has a full blown fit afterwards, and then spends hours asleep.

i suffer with the condition that u are all discribing. I am a grown woman now and as i was growing up it was always dismissed as "thats what girls do" (faint). In some situations it is just a normal response that the body takes when hurting oneself and children do "grow" out of it. But in a few (like me) we dont and have a medical reason for us continuing to black out. I personally suffer when i am under stress and then my heart will stop beating and my blood pressure drops very very low. However after abit i do come round (feling very silly), and i can carry on as normal.

2boys2 - that's interesting that you've never grown out of it. And it makes me cross that it was dismissed as 'girly fainting'.

We were fortunate to get a proper diagnosis for dd1, as the doctors here had just said it was a 'crying spell' and of course other people were saying it was due to manipulative behaviour on dd1's part - she was 12 months old at the time! and attention seeking behaviour - another .

So it was a relief to know exactly what it is, it's a medical condition. Nothing to do with dd1's behaviour.

She hadn't had any for two years, and we had thought she had grown out of it, until a month ago when she had another seizure. it's still scarey!

i agree it can be for on-lookers. I do turn deathly white and appear to fit as well, when infact i am not. In my case the "fit" is actually a reaction to the brain having a reduced oxygen supply. I have come round several times to be told i was having a fit.

My dd1 who is 17yrs old also has anoxic seizures.She also has what appears to be a 'fit'.We only found out early this year,that she was having anoxic seizures,after she had a very bad one.She appeared to be fitting for 5 mins or so and very confused when she came round.She was sent for EEG and ECG,both were normal.The consultant said the 'fitting' was the brains way of getting oxygen/blood where it was needed,after the heart beat had dropped right down.She drops to the ground so the blood can flow to the brain.It is very scary to watch.

I used to do this as a child but I was anaemic - also do it now as an adult but usually triggered by fear (at doctors or seeing ds having blood taken) That last time was a year ago after a minor op and it happened when I was alone and lying down..was very frightening because I couldn't think where I was when I came round.