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Embedded/Recurrent UTI

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applecharlotte12 · 19/05/2025 21:49

Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me...

Embedded uti since last November triggered by a kidney infection, had ultra sound and cystoscopy all clear. Tried hiprex, didn't work. I take Cranberry tablets daily although the urologist said not to bother.

On a low daily dose of antibiotics (did 3 months trimethoprim now on cefalexin) but still have mild symptoms that flare into a full infection 2 x month. It's only when I take a full dose of antibiotics that I start to feel okay, but when I drop down to low dose, symptoms come back immediately.

I work full time and am hanging on by a thread - the daily maintenance and headspace is horrendous. Plus it's affected my relationship.

I don't drink anything but weak decaf tea, water and cranberry. Gave up booze (2 years ago), fizzy drinks, caffeine, sex, tomatoes, citrus fruits.

Has anyone come out the other side of this? What worked? How long did it last? I originally saw a private urologist but am now waiting to be transferred into the NHS. Any advice, guidance or shared experience would be welcome 🙏

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MamaAlabama · 27/08/2025 17:16

applecharlotte · 21/08/2025 13:45

@fornhow are you feeling? Yes I've had 2 straight weeks of no symptoms but have still avoided coffee and exercise as those triggered me 3 weeks ago. Hope you've had a couple of good days?

@MamaAlabamaI was on 100mg of trim for 2 months and it was not strong enough so do try 200mg, it might make a difference, increasing helped me. I had no side effects. HS then put me on 2g a day of cephalexin which seems to be very effective.

I still need to make the leap! I keep finding excuses as to why I can’t as I’ve been so busy with the school holidays and can’t afford to feel worse.

Sending a virtual hug to everyone struggling. Symptoms wise I’ve been ok but I do have to get up in the night to wee which I never had to do before and it’s interrupting my sleep.

MamaAlabama · 27/08/2025 17:21

applecharlotte · 27/08/2025 06:47

Morning, how is everyone feeling at the moment?

@Forn- it sounds like you have had some small improvements. Finger crossed this just keeps increasing over the weeks. Sorry that you are still not feeling great tho, it's just soul destroying this condition. Sending hugs.

I feel like I'm falling apart at the moment with perimenopause (just about to start hrt) this chronic uti and a tear/frozen shoulder issue that I've been waiting to get help with for 9 months but am still waiting for an appointment.

I had some really strange results from my first review meeting at Harley street yesterday and wondered if any of the wise folks on here had any thoughts as it's got me baffled.

As I've mentioned before, I've been taking full dose cephalexin and Hiprex for 12 weeks. At my first appointment, my urinalysis showed 20 epil cells and 4 white blood cells. Since I've been feeling much better over the last few weeks I expected my numbers to have decreased but they've jumped up to 200 and 180!! Dr H said he'd expect me to be in a flare with those readings, and that it's strange. He also saw thrush in my urine and said this could be skewing the results. I now have to take boric acid as well as another 3 months of Cephalexin and Hiprex. I am dry down there (had put that down to Peri) but not really suffering with thrush either.

Im obv grateful that I'm feeling better but am disappointed my results weren't improved. Im so sick of having this condition!! Thanks for letting me vent!

These were my results at my last appointment. Not sure what they mean tbh!

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applecharlotte · 27/08/2025 19:14

@MamaAlabamaglad things haven't been too bad recently but it sounds like your infection is still rumbling along which is annoying. So I know wbc means 'white blood cells' which show up if you are fighting an infection and epi is the bacteria measure. So these are the ones Harley Street test for and that my number relate to. Rbc is probably 'red blood cells'. I had bad daily symptoms with a count of 20 epi and 4 at my first appointment but now with measures of 200 and 180 have no uti symptoms! I posted on a couple of chronic uti groups on fb and quite a few people said they had similar readings when they had thrush. It seems like the counts include any infection present not just UTIs.

Do you think you'll book in soon to see someone soon? I really recommend Dr H at Harley street but the appointments are expensive and it's costing me £200 for 3 months of antibiotics and Hiprex! Worth it in my case as I was desperate and really struggling between Nov - May.

MamaAlabama · 27/08/2025 19:19

I’m already seeing a consultant privately at The Portland Hospital. She’s the one that prescribed the nitrofruantoin, hiprex and HRT. I go back in October to see her and see if my levels of infection have come down.

Have they given you treatment for the thrush?

applecharlotte · 27/08/2025 19:53

@MamaAlabamaah I see! Re: thrush. He said use a canesten pessary/cream combo then 14 days of boric acid pessaries with a weekly one after that to keep thrush at bay. He shared a link to order from online. I'll share here...

MamaAlabama · 27/08/2025 21:46

Hope they work quickly for you!

YanTanTetheraPetheraBumfitt · 27/08/2025 22:08

I came out the other side but it took years. However I will say I was pretty much symptom free during that time with the odd flare up but was on high dose cephalexin and hiprex. I was under Prof Malone Lee when he was still alive, and Raj worked for him at the time at the LUTS clinic, so all on the nhs thank God. Just woke up one day and thought it was gone, no little background niggle. Stopped my meds two years ago and been fine since.

applecharlotte · 28/08/2025 10:11

@YanTanTetheraPetheraBumfittglad you're feeling well and that treatment worked for you. It's so expensive (just paid £225 for my next three months of ceph and Hiprex) but I've been symptom free for about a month now which is worth it.

MamaAlabama · 28/08/2025 11:13

applecharlotte · 28/08/2025 10:11

@YanTanTetheraPetheraBumfittglad you're feeling well and that treatment worked for you. It's so expensive (just paid £225 for my next three months of ceph and Hiprex) but I've been symptom free for about a month now which is worth it.

Can you not get your gps to prescribe it under the nhs? I just had to show my private prescription at my gps surgery, the doctor reviewed it and changed it over. I obviously still have to pay but no where near as much.

applecharlotte · 28/08/2025 11:24

@MamaAlabamano I did ask but they said as I'm under a private consultant I have to get prescriptions through them. They said if HS put me back into the NHS I can go through them but not until that happens.

Forn · 28/08/2025 11:46

Hi @applecharlotte thank you for the hugs, for the last two days I’ve nearly felt normal after 9 months.

im afraid I haven’t been back HS yet as I’m sure Dr Malone Lee said four months to me but Dr H does seem to see his clients after 12 weeks. I’ve dipped into the embedded uti fb page and had some very useful tips, so maybe try them. I dont look at all the time as it can get quite depressing. One person said to try pumpkin seed oil for my frequency and touch wood , that’s really helped.

I hope the shoulder gets better and hrt helps x

applecharlotte · 28/08/2025 11:53

@Fornso pleased to hear you've had 2 days respite! It's such a revelation to feel well again. Hopefully this is the start of a long symptom free period for you. Yes I know what you mean about the fb pages, there are some very unwell and desperate folk on there. Just shows how wide spread this condition is and how awful it is.

SchoolNightWine · 28/08/2025 12:06

applecharlotte12 · 20/05/2025 08:08

Oh forgot to say, I'm 45 and no menopause symptoms yet so doctors ruled that out.

This is so disappointing to read - every woman I know has started with peri symptoms in their early to mid 40’s - why do doctors dismiss it so much😞

I see from a recent post that you know you are now in peri and about to start HRT. I’m post menopause now, but looking back UTI and thrush type symptoms (but with no infection detected), bladder weakness, urge incontinence, dryness, etc were my earliest peri symptoms in my early 40’s. I was also dismissed by gp’s as being too young.

The biggest thing that helped me at the time was cutting out sugar, stop using tampons and using Balance Activ BV Treatments. I was never diagnosed with BV but the creams and gels worked for me. Didn’t cure, I had to use them quite regularly, but did relieve symptoms.

I suffered for years rather than months, but was symptom free from mid to late 40’s and post menopause by 50. I hope you continue to have less flare ups and symptoms stop altogether at some point like they did for me.

applecharlotte · 28/08/2025 16:37

@SchoolNightWinehi, thanks for sharing your experience and sorry it took so many years of suffering before getting respite. I agree women are really let down by the GPs and the current nhs guidelines. Back in May when I posted I didn't think I was in peri but now I have lots of symptoms so believe it could have contributed to my uti becoming embedded last year. I can't wait to start HRT but have also been fortunate to be treated by a chronic uti specialist. Thanks for the suggestions - I know cutting out sugar may help but am in denial as always have cut out alcohol and caffeine!! I will seriously think about it tho.

Keepthecat · 28/08/2025 17:03

There's a very good article on exactly this issue in the October 2025 Good Housekeeping magazine if you can get your hands on it.

MamaAlabama · 16/09/2025 19:24

YanTanTetheraPetheraBumfitt · 27/08/2025 22:08

I came out the other side but it took years. However I will say I was pretty much symptom free during that time with the odd flare up but was on high dose cephalexin and hiprex. I was under Prof Malone Lee when he was still alive, and Raj worked for him at the time at the LUTS clinic, so all on the nhs thank God. Just woke up one day and thought it was gone, no little background niggle. Stopped my meds two years ago and been fine since.

This gives me hope!

Does anyone have to have blood tests to check how they’re responding to the long term antibiotics?

I had some done as I’ve been feeling very fatigued and I’ve got a low wbc, low folate and high b12 🤷‍♀️😭

applecharlotte · 18/09/2025 19:43

Hi @MamaAlabama sorry to hear you've been feeling fatigued. My gp sent me for blood tests this week to check my liver and kidney function now I'm on a full dose of antibiotics but not for anything else. Maybe it's worth asking?

I've gone full circle with this fucking condition. I had 5 weeks of no symptoms. Got cocky and had a coffee, a fizzy drink and sex once which has ended up in the worst 10 day flare since I started treatment with Harley street back in June. Feel shit - low mentally and just so disappointed. A stark reminder to not push my luck. Sympathy and hugs to all those struggling.

MamaAlabama · 18/09/2025 21:54

applecharlotte · 18/09/2025 19:43

Hi @MamaAlabama sorry to hear you've been feeling fatigued. My gp sent me for blood tests this week to check my liver and kidney function now I'm on a full dose of antibiotics but not for anything else. Maybe it's worth asking?

I've gone full circle with this fucking condition. I had 5 weeks of no symptoms. Got cocky and had a coffee, a fizzy drink and sex once which has ended up in the worst 10 day flare since I started treatment with Harley street back in June. Feel shit - low mentally and just so disappointed. A stark reminder to not push my luck. Sympathy and hugs to all those struggling.

It’s always the fun stuff that sets it off 😂 Hope this flare passes quickly!

My liver and kidney results were fine on the blood test so I’m guessing it’s not causing me any harm. I’ve been quite aware of symptoms again the last few weeks so this must be a flare for me. I’m back to see the specialist in October and I really hope I can lower the dose of antibiotics.

applecharlotte · 19/09/2025 07:33

@MamaAlabamayes maybe you are in a flare but it's the fatigue taking centre stage symptoms wise?

my flares always follow the same pattern... urgency/frequency then bladder pain then bone numbing fatigue.

thats good about your low wbc. How long have you been on a full dose for? Would be fab to lower (although not if symptoms come back!). Hope you feel more spritly soon.

MamaAlabama · 19/09/2025 11:53

applecharlotte · 19/09/2025 07:33

@MamaAlabamayes maybe you are in a flare but it's the fatigue taking centre stage symptoms wise?

my flares always follow the same pattern... urgency/frequency then bladder pain then bone numbing fatigue.

thats good about your low wbc. How long have you been on a full dose for? Would be fab to lower (although not if symptoms come back!). Hope you feel more spritly soon.

Thank you. I’ve only been on treatment since July. Can I ask what your treatment plan is and does that change during a flare?

applecharlotte · 19/09/2025 12:28

@MamaAlabama 2g of cephalexin a day and 2g of Hiprex. I can't up my dose to 3g a day during a flare. How about you?

applecharlotte · 19/09/2025 12:28

@MamaAlabama sorry that should read *can up my dose

MamaAlabama · 19/09/2025 12:36

I’m on 100mg slow release nitrofruantoin twice a day along with Hiprex.

The doctor said I could use quick release 50mg four times a day during a flare which I might need to do. I’ve been feeling the symptoms for weeks now though. Can a flare last as long?

applecharlotte · 19/09/2025 16:42

@MamaAlabama I think they can. They can linger if the dosage isn't high enough to get rid of the bacteria fully.

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