Anyone done a vagus nerve reset programme or used one of the devices

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I am being bombarded with ads on fb for leaply and other vagus nerve reset apps/programmes or those devices that somehow reset the vagus nerve. Has anyone any experience of any of these or can you recommend resources that might help. I am fed up of anxiety and related gut and digestive tract issues and having read a bit regarding vagus nerve can relate symptoms to this being out of whack. However, am rather cautious of anything on fb and wondering if any of these programmes have credibility. Any input, oh wise mumsnetters, gratefully received.

The vagus nerve, amongst lots of other functions, sends signals to the sinus node which then powers the cadence of signals that control the electrical activity of the Heart, your choice but unless medically supervised, I would not mess with anything that attempts to control a nerve that can stop your Heart!

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The vagus nerve? What’s the point? That’s the one that makes me pass out when I have a blood test 😂 So I wouldn’t mess with it

I'm puzzled by these adverts

I've only known the vagus nerve in connection with my parents heart conditions so I don't understand why anyone wants to mess with it.

There’s a new area of research. Look for a Facebook page called Vagus Adventure- possibly Dawn’s vagus adventure.

People with disregulated nervous systems are finding a tens machine on the Vagus helpful.

It’s helping people with chronic fatigue/POTS/Fibromyalgia type illnesses.

It’s early days, but research looks promising.

Dawn has gone from effectively bed bound to gently active, and has now reduced her use of the machine without a relapse.

I’m surprised at all the negative comments. A relative has a neurosym and it has changed her life. The research is new but good. Her neurologist said it was fine to try it and it worked well. She uses it daily and has
done for a few years.

As a PP said, don’t mess with your vagus nerve, unless you fancy a cardiac arrest. Im
a nurse and we aren’t allowed to touch canal nerve stimulators for intractable epilepsy without having training.

Firstly try breathing exercises that stimulate the nerve (look online). And if you haven't done so already take a good look at what you're eating and how it might better match your body's needs.

I wouldn’t believe a story like that just because I saw it on Facebook.

I’m surprised that as a nurse you aren’t interested in new medical research and treatments that are impacting positively.

I've used a device called a sensate, I get it on loan from the counselling agency where I have therapy, the sensate itself is eyewateringly expensive to buy.

I have found the sensate helps with my anxiety quite significantly when I use it. It's the only reason I have used it for so no idea if the other claims about it are true.

Look up Ariella Schwartz - amazing yoga for vagus nerve polyvagal system

It isn’t a story. It’s a long running facebook page where she documented her experiments.

I haven’t paid close attention and checked the receipts because I don’t have the capacity. I haven’t paid close watched from afar for about 6 years and occasionally considered using one.

There is no money in it for her. She is under a neurology team, if I remember correctly.

It would be a shame to disbelieve everything because it’s been on FB.

@Gingerkittykat I use Sensate too and have found it life changing - I was "prescribed" if by my chronic fatigue consultant so senior doctor entirely approves of its impact

it’s this kind of thing-

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10034029/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR61xIm-8MG50dtvBrXmv5Nu68PB7MFqbAXl9adOUD9iJgFyXCeBlhfYovQCIA_aem_dhe6nWnIvnLNqkud9jtx3g

I tried Nurosym for a month with seemingly no changes, they are good about returns.

Love my Sensate for switching off but I can’t say I have seen a correlated improvement.

I would avoid like the plague. Your vagus nerve is central to so many functions that keep you alive!

Mine triggers atrial fibrillation and I have just had to have a pacemaker - not a walk in the park and to be avoided unless absolutely necessary.

There is some serious bollocks on Fb, which is fine on one level, but not when it puts your life at risk!!!!

There is new medical research and there’s quackery. This is the latter! Even so I don’t think diy treatment is recommended for innovative and novel treatments.
I imagine that as a nurse Toddler is trained to follow evidence based best practice.

Why do you believe Toddler, and not the people who have been advised by their medics?

Thank you all. I will look at a sensate as I have chronic fatigue. A lot of what is said here reflects my view that at the moment it is all rather hearsay and not necessarily science based. I am looking at some exercise based practices which would help other areas and I know will positively impact wellbeing anyway.

Seriously, check out Facebook AVA a vagus adventure.

People there have used all the various brands and fed back on what worked for them. It’s a good place to find someone with similar symptoms and see what worked for them.

They are not affiliated or brand sponsored in anyway.

I didn’t find Nurosym did anything, but they do have a good returns policy as a PP said.

I used a tens machine with an ear clip. I think my HRV improved in the weeks I used it but when I stopped, the improvements didn’t stay. I got bored of it so stopped doing it but I may well try it again. A lot of people don’t like the sensation but I found it really relaxing. It’s worth a try if you have CFS/ME.

i bought a Tens machine for use on my back and shoulder. I’ve been getting sinus and jaw pain recently (TMJD) so I bought some tiny pads and place one just in front of my ear in the hollow between jaw and cheekbone and switch Tens on pulse to 2.5 strength. It really relaxes the muscles and helps with the pain. I can feel my sinuses sort of releasing too.

I got the clips too but I don’t find them very comfy and they make my ear lobe really itchy. I probably need to put a little pad on. The sensation is nice though.