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How did you successfully treat yourself sugar addiction?

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ICanBuyMyselfFlowersICanWriteMyNameInTheSand · 31/08/2024 08:05

I'm actually addicted to sugar. I don't go a day without it. What do I do? I need something more that just will power as that's not working. I've only just come to the conclusion that it's an actual addiction and that I need to treat it as that rather than treating it as just an unhealthy diet.

It feels like a compulsion that I'm not in control of.

I'm wondering about hypnotherapy. Has anyone tried that?

Can anyone recommend something that actually worked? I don't want to get type 2 diabetes and I am definitely heading that way.

Thank you

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Eyesopenwideawake · 31/08/2024 08:55

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Exactly!

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KeepinOn · 31/08/2024 08:59

mikado1 · 31/08/2024 08:53

That is great you are doing so well.

But really your overall description is lowered blood sugars led to less cravings and therefore you craved it less. OP can try that for herself by lowering blood sugars through eating. No snacks really helps.

For those of us who feel compelled to eat sugar in vast quantities, whil being v disciplined and capable in life in general, it's not helpful for people to say it doesn't exist etc. Sugar and especially the newer UP products that are really not food at all but made for repeated overconsumption does a number on the brain and the neural pathways. It can be an emotional and psychological crutch. You have to work hard to unpack that at times. Best of luck OP.

I don't disagree - I've done it both ways. Maybe your second paragraph isn't directed at me, I didn't say the drive to overeat sugar and refined carbs doesn't exist. Most certainly does for me anyway!

There are lots of ways to reduce those cravings but because we still need to eat to live, going cold turkey is a very difficult path to start and maintain. There's a reason why 'success stories' of people quitting sugar and staying off it for years are a fascination - they are rare.

Eyesopenwideawake · 31/08/2024 09:00

@lucytoharris - what's your definition of addictive? Some people can drink alcohol regularly, or take heroin occasionally and not be addicted (in that they can stop and/or do not require larger amounts). Surely it's the mental make up of the person more so that the substance? Is there anything that's instantly addictive??

mikado1 · 31/08/2024 09:01

KeepinOn · 31/08/2024 08:59

I don't disagree - I've done it both ways. Maybe your second paragraph isn't directed at me, I didn't say the drive to overeat sugar and refined carbs doesn't exist. Most certainly does for me anyway!

There are lots of ways to reduce those cravings but because we still need to eat to live, going cold turkey is a very difficult path to start and maintain. There's a reason why 'success stories' of people quitting sugar and staying off it for years are a fascination - they are rare.

No, second par wasn't aimed at you!

Lots of people have successfully done it in the online support group I am a member of. Its not easy at all.

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Well Lucy, it served a great purpose for me on understanding what felt like a massive burden in my life which had lead to great self shaming. I am now free from it with help and support and self work. People denying it really wouldn't have helped amd it just shows me a lack of understanding throughnot experiencing it personally.

Paq · 31/08/2024 09:04

@ICanBuyMyselfFlowersICanWriteMyNameInTheSand it was just a general hypnotherapist. I would have done it again a few years ago but I couldn't find anyone (had moved house in the meantime). I knew that one or two sessions worked for me but I couldn't only find people who wanted to sell me longer term, more holistic therapies. That's when I found Slimpod which, for £99 for life, is bloody good value.

AnotherEmma · 31/08/2024 09:05

I think this derail is really unhelpful tbh.
We could argue about the semantics of "addiction" or we could just focus on the actual issue which is how to break a lifetime habit of eating too much sugar.

ManchesterGirl2 · 31/08/2024 09:05

ICanBuyMyselfFlowersICanWriteMyNameInTheSand · 31/08/2024 08:33

@Paq I think I could do it after the initial 3 months. Was the hypnotherapost you used a sugar addiction specialist or just a general one?

@RaspberryBeretxx I wonder if prunes does the same thing. I have prunes in my all bran every morning morning, as otherwise I get constipated.

I'm only about a stone overweight but it's all in my tummy, which I know is the most unhealthy place to have it.

But I want to tackle this less so about my weight and more about my health in general.

@Gawjus I can't do cold turkey. Plus I've got kids who always expect pudding.

I'm very recently doing the same, but live alone. For me I keep processed sugar out the house. I mindfully sit with cravings, trying to learn the times and triggers. And for the friends that tend to socialise with sugar, I'm asking them not to offer me it.

Do your kids need this much sugar? It's probably bad for them too.

I'd get the chocolate out of the house. If you want to give them a chocolate sometimes, buy them each an individual bar when you're at the shop together, and be clear in your head that then it belongs to them.

Pudding when I grew up was was fruit or yoghurt.

mikado1 · 31/08/2024 09:09

AnotherEmma · 31/08/2024 09:05

I think this derail is really unhelpful tbh.
We could argue about the semantics of "addiction" or we could just focus on the actual issue which is how to break a lifetime habit of eating too much sugar.

100% but I knew it would happen. I'm going to ignore further or similar posts now.

soupfiend · 31/08/2024 09:12

Eyesopenwideawake · 31/08/2024 08:50

To be fair there is a difference between a physical addiction (heroin and alcohol) and a mental addiction (sugar and tobacco) - both feel horrible but only the former requires medical intervention.

Nicotine is a physical addiction, not an emotional dependence (theres no such thing as a mental addiction)

Some people are physically addicted to sugar and for those that will be a physical addiction.

Some people have cravings for sugary or carby food because of their hormones.

Either way, its a physical thing.

LaCerbiatta · 31/08/2024 09:16

ICanBuyMyselfFlowersICanWriteMyNameInTheSand · 31/08/2024 08:36

@ZedDead I have sweetener in my coffee. I don't drink fizzy drinks. It's mainly chocolate after my lunch that's the problem. I have one small chocolate and intend to have one and honestly believe I am just going to have one and then I'll have a whole packet.

If I didn't have children I'd just not have the choca in my house but I don't want them not to have it due to me.

So pre period do you allow yourself sugar since you know you'll crave it more or do you stick to it despite it?

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This is so strange to me. Why do you want your children to have something you think is unhealthy for you? What's wrong with not having chocolate in the house? or only every now and then? They only expect pudding because you set that expectation. You are basically setting them up to be in your shoes in 20 years time.

I don't agree with completely depriving children of sweets and puddings and loads of people will say their children eat pudding and chocolates and haribos everyday and are skinny as rakes, blah blah blah. But it's still not healthy and this mindset in the UK that children HAVE to eat crap is the reason for the obesity crisis.

I'll hide now 😂

Beforetheend · 31/08/2024 09:20

I cut out chocolate first as that was my worst offender. I had the occasional rice cake with dark chocolate, or some 85% until I could do without them

Once I had got over the chocolate cravings (about 7 weeks) I dropped any obvious processed sugar - cakes, biscuits, syrups.

I started drinking a glass of water before drinking any other type of drink. I didn’t want to deny myself any thing other than chocolate at the beginning, but slaking my thirst first naturally reduced other drinks.

I gradually started eating more carefully. High protein and high fibre and gradually less white carbs. I noticed that if I eat breakfast, I get hungry again around 11 and 2 and I started eating quite substantially then - meals rather than snacks. When I do that I’m not very hungry in the evenings. I fell into intermittant fasting then (just a twelve hour window that I flex with my period cycle).

Then I got interested in trying to eliminate ultra processed food. I’m not bothered about sugar content of real food and I eat a good bit of fruit and sweeter veg like carrots. When I was eating sugar daily I couldn’t taste sweetness in veg, but now I can. Actually everything tastes better and I really enjoy food.

I’ve tried and relapsed several times (this time was motivated by a health scare) so I know that there are a lot of minor ailments that clear up when you cut out sugar that I tend to forget until I relapse. The ones I can think of are almost no headaches, I don’t get that skin crawling sensation, no restless legs at night, no little spots in my hair line, rarely any cold sores, no mouth ulcers.

The social pressure can be hard to deal with. It takes very little to set off weeks of cravings that take a lot of willpower to resist. Whereas if I don’t eat anything sugary I don’t desire it. People don’t tend to offer ex smokers “just one cigarette” but get annoyed if you won’t have dessert.

CherryogDog · 31/08/2024 09:26

I went cold turkey a few years back, tldr just woke up one day with the right mindset.
Lasted three years before I caved.
I'm back on the wagon again, 5 weeks so far. The cravings only appear when I'm overtired, or a migraine, or shopping when I'm hungry.
I know that's not really helpful @ICanBuyMyselfFlowersICanWriteMyNameInTheSand but I did read somewhere ages ago something about chocolate having similar ratios of sugars and fats as breast or formula milk, and possibly triggers a feeling of safety and emotional contentment.
I'm like a dry drunk, I could never be one of those people who eat one square of dark chocolate. I don't even like dark chocolate but I'd eat the whole bar if I did that 😳

KonTikki · 31/08/2024 09:28

Having recently been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes, I have pretty much stopped sweets, cakes, chocolate and biscuits.
My weight has plummeted and I can keep my normal dietary intake quite successfully. But I am on medication, possibly for life.

wellno · 31/08/2024 09:29

@LaCerbiatta I couldn't agree more. Why do UK parents feed their children food that they know is crap? It's mad. I guess it's peer pressure a lot of the time. Food adverts etc.

AubreysMonkey · 31/08/2024 10:04

Cold turkey and avoid sweeteners too, it just numbs the addiction.

I talk from experience - 6yrs since I ate sweets, chocolate, cake, pop, juice or ice cream. I basically only eat savoury foods.

It's easy now and snacking is far less of an issue, the best bit is those awful sugar crashes are a thing of the past ... and I've not had a filling for years!!

Eyesopenwideawake · 31/08/2024 10:04

@soupfiend - nope, nicotine is not physically addictive. The tobacco and pharmaceutical industries like you to assume they are but millions of people give up 'cold turkey' without any withdrawal symptoms or needing substitute products.

Foxblue · 31/08/2024 10:07

Cold turkey here too, because I like you, realised that my behaviour around it and my thought processes were similar to how an addict behaves.
The overwhelming narrative seems to be that you shouldn't 'deny yourself completely as then you will binge worse' - now, for some people that's absolutely true, but i think there's actually a hell of a lot of us out there who respond better to cold turkey/all in approaches.
I know they say to not try and do lots of things at once, but I found it really helpful to make increasing my water intake a goal, because it gave me something else to think about for a start (distraction helps) and I replacing the 'eating' habit with something good for me.

soupfiend · 31/08/2024 10:10

Eyesopenwideawake · 31/08/2024 10:04

@soupfiend - nope, nicotine is not physically addictive. The tobacco and pharmaceutical industries like you to assume they are but millions of people give up 'cold turkey' without any withdrawal symptoms or needing substitute products.

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Gosh all those scientists, they're just so wrong arent they?

My dad gave up cold turkey. Giving up a substance cold turkey is not an indicator of whether something is physically addictive.

Eyesopenwideawake · 31/08/2024 10:20

I give up! (and did actually give up, symptom free, after smoking for 50 years). Plus I've helped several clients do the same and with emotional eating. Proof being in the (uneaten) pudding!!

NewDogOwner · 31/08/2024 10:35

My mum also did it with Overeaters Anonymous ( and Jesus!) She found the meetings and support and viewing it like an addiction really helpful. She completely cut it out but still allowed herself a bowl of fruit after a meal ( I know some people cut this out completely) She discovered cheese after a meal as a good substitute too. It's been 10 years and she looks and feels like a different person. When my dad was in hospital, the doctors thought she was his daughter!

mikado1 · 31/08/2024 10:45

NewDogOwner · 31/08/2024 10:35

My mum also did it with Overeaters Anonymous ( and Jesus!) She found the meetings and support and viewing it like an addiction really helpful. She completely cut it out but still allowed herself a bowl of fruit after a meal ( I know some people cut this out completely) She discovered cheese after a meal as a good substitute too. It's been 10 years and she looks and feels like a different person. When my dad was in hospital, the doctors thought she was his daughter!

Fantastic. Well done her! 👏 I allow myself fruit too but I know others find it can set them off.

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