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Is the vitamin d in multivitamin just as good as taking it on its own?

23 replies

eurovisionfan · 15/06/2024 23:55

I have been told I am 'vitamin d insufficient' following a recent blood test. I have been asked to take 400iu a day. I noticed this amount is in wellwoman multivitamins I have a pack at home (always forget to take) and was wondering if this is just as good as a stand alone vitamin d tablet?

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NoDishyRishi · 16/06/2024 00:11

How deficient are you? Normally you'd take a loading dose of 10000 or even 20000 on prescription before dropping to a daily amount.

400 is too low I take this one BetterYou D3000 + Vitamin D + K2 Spray 12ml amzn.eu/d/5YpJozT.
You need to have vit K for absorption. Multi vitamin are not high enough

Miley1967 · 16/06/2024 00:15

My GP prescribed 3000 unit dose for me. I have felt a lot better since being on it for about four months now.

spikeandbuffy · 16/06/2024 00:46

Bugger that amount
You can take up to 4000IU daily and I would be taking that

My level was 9, I had a high dose course (20,000 weekly) and then took 4000IU daily (but I'm not great at remembering!
So level of 9 in 2020, this year it's still only 66
400 isn't even a drop in the ocean

spikeandbuffy · 16/06/2024 01:23

Here, a years supply for £10

amzn.eu/d/dPaHw4t

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 16/06/2024 09:51

Hi Op
If your vit D was massivly low the doc would have prescribed meds

You can buy cheap or very expensive, stand along vit D's - they vary from 100% of the daily amount recommednt to many, many more times than that

Ask doc has fobbed you off - ask a chemist for advice. Be warned the vita are expensive there - you can shop on line etc

Wear short sleves etc, get more out in the sun but avoid long periods in the really hot/powerful uv times

I'm asain, light brown skin - people with darker skin take in less vit D when compared to those with lighter skin. As many people work inside - they don't get the sun

not many people know this but if the sun is shinning on you through a window, you don't get the benefits of UV light vit D from it - most docs I have spoken to were not aware of that - may be newer younger docs are

Then after a few weeks/ couple of months - get your blood tested again to see latest vit D reuslts

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 16/06/2024 09:53

Btw i take 2000IU winter and a bit less or less frequently during summer - but speak with chemist - tell them you what your D levels

crostini · 16/06/2024 09:56

Vitamin k along side vit D will help your body to absorb it.

And definitely a higher dose... I take 4000

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 16/06/2024 09:59

crostini · 16/06/2024 09:56

Vitamin k along side vit D will help your body to absorb it.

And definitely a higher dose... I take 4000

That reminds me - also ask the cheist best time to take it and with or before food

I also vaugle recall some food not to have just before or after taking it D as it can affect absorption - I often take mine at lunch time

eurovisionfan · 16/06/2024 10:02

Not deficient but insufficient which is slightly Lor they said very common in uk

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eurovisionfan · 16/06/2024 10:03

*slightly low they said it's called insufficient

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eurovisionfan · 16/06/2024 10:10

I've looked and my level is 25 which they class as slightly low

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MasterShardlake · 16/06/2024 10:13

When I was tested I was told as a rough guide you need 1000iu per 25 kg of body weight for maintenance (more if levels are low) in the UK for 6 months from (Oct-March). To continue with this dose all year if little sun exposure in summer.
It works for me, yearly tests over past 4 yrs show optimum levels of vitamin D.

eurovisionfan · 16/06/2024 10:17

Oh no I've just looked (nee to this) it says 46.2 which is slightly low/insufficient and potential of becoming deficient. So yeah was wondering if wellwoman ok if I only need 400

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spikeandbuffy · 16/06/2024 11:11

eurovisionfan · 16/06/2024 10:17

Oh no I've just looked (nee to this) it says 46.2 which is slightly low/insufficient and potential of becoming deficient. So yeah was wondering if wellwoman ok if I only need 400

I don't think that's enough to maintain let alone increase it, you need a higher dose

eurovisionfan · 16/06/2024 19:20

@spikeandbuffy

Oh no well that's what my GP had advised

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Tulipvase · 16/06/2024 19:27

Mine was 30 and I was prescribed a very high (helpful I know) dose for 6 months and then half the amount going forward.

Beachballplayer · 16/06/2024 19:30

NoDishyRishi · 16/06/2024 00:11

How deficient are you? Normally you'd take a loading dose of 10000 or even 20000 on prescription before dropping to a daily amount.

400 is too low I take this one BetterYou D3000 + Vitamin D + K2 Spray 12ml amzn.eu/d/5YpJozT.
You need to have vit K for absorption. Multi vitamin are not high enough

Vitamin K should not be taken long term and for people on certain medications or conditions can make them very poorly, you need to be careful what advice you are giving to people.

eurovisionfan · 16/06/2024 19:39

The yes I just want to
Be careful not to take too much it says on bus website this:

Taking too many vitamin D supplements over a long period of time can cause too much calcium to build up in the body (hypercalcaemia). This can weaken the bones and damage the kidneys and the heart.
If you choose to take vitamin D supplements, 10 micrograms a day will be enough for most people.

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eurovisionfan · 16/06/2024 19:39

* NHS

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spikeandbuffy · 16/06/2024 19:43

eurovisionfan · 16/06/2024 19:39

The yes I just want to
Be careful not to take too much it says on bus website this:

Taking too many vitamin D supplements over a long period of time can cause too much calcium to build up in the body (hypercalcaemia). This can weaken the bones and damage the kidneys and the heart.
If you choose to take vitamin D supplements, 10 micrograms a day will be enough for most people.

That's if you're taking massive doses. I'll find the info someone posted once as it's really helpful
You're deficient so you need more to actually get your levels up which is why they often do a loading dose

Doggymummar · 16/06/2024 19:45

spikeandbuffy · 16/06/2024 00:46

Bugger that amount
You can take up to 4000IU daily and I would be taking that

My level was 9, I had a high dose course (20,000 weekly) and then took 4000IU daily (but I'm not great at remembering!
So level of 9 in 2020, this year it's still only 66
400 isn't even a drop in the ocean

My oh was prescribed 40000 on Friday, a week though as his wasn't even on the scale. He's doing 8000 a day for 5 days

spikeandbuffy · 16/06/2024 19:45

Here

           When an averagely responding adult , takes 1000 IU  per day , over the long term, then that person could most likely expect their blood level to rise by roughly 25 nmol/L  after 2 to 3 months, over and above their natural unsupplemented  blood level of vitamin D.   Once that  is reached , continued supplementaion , at that rate of 1000 IU daily ,  will generally  maintain the blood level at just that 25nmol/L  above the unsupplemented level.   In other words  , the blood level will not keep rising. An equilibrium will be reached.    IF you take only   4000  IU daily ,  then after 2-3 months, then your blood level would likely rise by 100 nmol/L - four times as much.   Although it is not exactly a linear relationship at higher and higher doses. 

 1 micro gram  is equal to 40  IU.

I've taken a course of 20,000IU for 6-8 weeks plus 4000IU daily and I've only got my levels from 9 - 66 ish and that took 4 years

MasterShardlake · 17/06/2024 13:04

Beachballplayer · 16/06/2024 19:30

Vitamin K should not be taken long term and for people on certain medications or conditions can make them very poorly, you need to be careful what advice you are giving to people.

Edited

Which of the two kinds of vitamin K are you talking about?

Vitamin K1 is involved in blood coagulation. Found in green vegetables and some other foods, supplements not often needed.

Vitamin K2 is involved in bone and heart health.
Not in in many foods so deficiencies are possible. It's the one taken with vit d and calcium supplements.
It helps to get calcium out of the blood and into bones, thus reducing risk of arterial calcification.
There's ongoing research into K2, lots of info online if you google.

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