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Private health premiums increased drastically - Vitality Health Insirance

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KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 06:10

Hello,

Just wondering if anyone else has experienced a HUGE price hike in private health insurance premiums this year?

We took over my corporate health policy when I left 23 years ago and have paid faithfully into it each year and never used it. Until 2021 when I was diagnosed with Stage III cancer.

Understandably treatment for that has cost Vitality (that’s our insurer) an arm and a leg but since last year they have trebled our premiums and this year they want £20,160 per annum for two adults (one who has never used the policy) both just 50 years old.

For clarity it has increased over the 20 year period at a rate above inflation but doable. Prior to and during my cancer diagnosis and then treatment we were paying £6,720 per annum (so £560 per month still a lot!).

My husband is self employed so we pay this out of our own private taxed income. And yes we know it is a luxury rather than a necessity but we are also of the view that taking us out of the NHS relieves the burden on its resources and time for others.

In fact I would say it actually has been a necessity because my GP misdiagnosed me twice over a 7 month period, sending me away on 2 separate occasions, saying there was nothing wrong with me when in fact I had cancer. And during this 7 month period my cancer was progressing at an alarming rate so by the time it was decided that I would dip into my private healthcare for a second opinion I was already Stage III and on the cusp of Stage IV (which would have meant palliative care only). So I have been very lucky (I have two young children age 8 and 10 so I had every reason to keep myself alive!) which had I listened to that GP and not gone back a third time and demanded a referral, I would not be here now. So I have every reason to be very grateful that my husband paid all those years into this policy.

But £20,000 a year just as insurance is exponentially higher. My cancer isn’t a lifestyle choice. My type of cancer is caused by a virus that can change rogue cells to cancer not because I have an unhealthy lifestyle. I eat healthily, I don’t drink, have never smoked and I take regular exercise.

We expect premiums to increase, of course we do, they’re running a business but not to cripple us! This seems completely disproportionate and just unacceptable.

Vitality has us over a barrel. I’ve only just recovered and the future is by no way certain, we have paid in to that policy for 23 years (over £100,000) and now they’re going to make it impossible for us to stay. It is appalling.

I am in remission now (in my 3rd year) so my annual costs for the scans that I have to have until I reach 5 years cancer free will be £2,250 (I am lucky that my cancer is highly curable even at stage III). And for that they want £20,000. But if we let the policy go I will never get insurance again and, yes, I can go into the NHS system but then why have I paid faithfully for the last 23 years hoping that this policy would take me into my old age?

Please be kind… yes private health is a luxury but we have chosen to do without other things in life in order to afford this and having had cancer it has been worth its weight in gold but to be punished like this as a cancer patient is just unacceptable.

Insurance companies all get their pound of flesh in the end… shameful.

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GoldViper · 13/06/2024 12:05

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KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 12:05

stressedespresso · 13/06/2024 12:03

Could you look at going within a different insurance company in that case? Of course your cancer would be omitted as obviously it would count as pre-existing but it may end up being cheaper this way and at least you’d still have cover for any new ailments

Husband also looking at that today too, really hoping I never need to use my insurance ever again! That would be nice ♥️

It’s all really quite tiresome isn’t it. Just when you think… ahhhh phew that’s over and I’ve survived… boom we’ll hit you with this!

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KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 12:08

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@GoldViper

Wow… you got out of bed the wrong side this morning didn’t you. I think you need to take a look at what you’ve just written before you go making any assumptions about me.

have a super day!

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sunflowerdaisyrose · 13/06/2024 12:09

I had cancer treatment with vitality and then left my employer and therefore insurance. The quote to continue was extortionate, but not as much as yours! Think it was £500 a month for just me, I managed to talk to them and to insure me excluding the sort of cancer I had had, and was then much cheaper - £181 a month for a family of 4 (younger children).

Summerhillsquare · 13/06/2024 12:09

It's called a 'fuck off price ', like when tradies over quote for a job they don't want.

Ain't the private sector marvellous? Bad idea to involve it in public services ...oh wait...

KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 12:09

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Oh silly me forgot to say, I was the main breadwinner before my husband started his business so yup, still using my money too!

Enjoy!!!

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SoftPillowAllNight · 13/06/2024 12:10

OP - could you get Critical Illness Cover instead which would cover all the big ones but the smaller issue you could use NHS? Just another path...

GoldViper · 13/06/2024 12:11

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KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 12:12

SoftPillowAllNight · 13/06/2024 12:10

OP - could you get Critical Illness Cover instead which would cover all the big ones but the smaller issue you could use NHS? Just another path...

Thanks @SoftPillowAllNight we have that in place too thankfully - many thanks for popping it up as hopefully can help others. Much appreciated.

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KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 12:14

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🤣 Couldn’t have said it better myself 🤣

Nobody on here wants to see this sort of language so just behave or leave. You’ve already been reported.

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Tryingtobewellbalanced · 13/06/2024 12:17

Yes thanks for sharing that. That can be a plan B for when they start giving us big premiums.

It is all very well saying you don't believe in private health insurance, but when push comes to shove, people will protect what is most important to them, which in my case is my families health. If that means I have to swallow my political pride and spend money on it then so be it. However, I would never, ever, never, ever vote for a political party that does not care about the life and health of it's people. It's a hiding to nowhere.

angstridden2 · 13/06/2024 12:21

Well despite my previous post about having to leave my private insurer when premiums doubled despite never claiming, like many my DP is paying for private physio and now I’ve just booked after a wait of 6 weeks for a gp phone call when she said I’d be waiting months and months for NHS treatment. I’ve got the option, what about those that simply don’t have the money?

AuditAngel · 13/06/2024 12:21

My family and I (DH and 3DC) were covered on my works policy, I was being taxed on a premium of £200. Was pushed into “voluntary” redundancy. Requested quote for continued cover £1,637 per month. 800% increase.

only claims we had made were my daughter’s epilepsy diagnosis and knee surgery for my husband about 8 years ago under a different provider.

needless to say we are no longer covered.

LipstickedPowderedAndPainted · 13/06/2024 12:22

We're insured with WPA. Our policy has gone up enormously this year, to the extent we thought there was an error. I had an operation so made a claim. A coupe of other family members in the policy have made claims in previous years which have had no effect on the premiums bevvies of the structure of WPA. It has transpired that due to a much larger number of people now relying on their issuance WPA have changed to a claims based model rather than a mutual fund as the costto them has been so great. I think generally the NHS is in such a poor state people are either relying on insurance or paying direct for treatment, it's going to push all the premiums through the roof.

KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 12:23

AuditAngel · 13/06/2024 12:21

My family and I (DH and 3DC) were covered on my works policy, I was being taxed on a premium of £200. Was pushed into “voluntary” redundancy. Requested quote for continued cover £1,637 per month. 800% increase.

only claims we had made were my daughter’s epilepsy diagnosis and knee surgery for my husband about 8 years ago under a different provider.

needless to say we are no longer covered.

Wow that’s crazy, I’m so sorry you’ve had to leave your cover. It’s just not fair is it.

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KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 12:23

LipstickedPowderedAndPainted · 13/06/2024 12:22

We're insured with WPA. Our policy has gone up enormously this year, to the extent we thought there was an error. I had an operation so made a claim. A coupe of other family members in the policy have made claims in previous years which have had no effect on the premiums bevvies of the structure of WPA. It has transpired that due to a much larger number of people now relying on their issuance WPA have changed to a claims based model rather than a mutual fund as the costto them has been so great. I think generally the NHS is in such a poor state people are either relying on insurance or paying direct for treatment, it's going to push all the premiums through the roof.

It is, they’ve got us all over a barrel.

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KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 12:26

Thanks to all those who reported GoldViper and her rude comments. So sorry someone had to use language like that. Wholly inappropriate! Whilst we can’t all agree on everything I would hope we can at the very least be respectful. Everyone’s point of view is valid.

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Tryingtobewellbalanced · 13/06/2024 12:28

Omg it gets worse. This is so insightful to me who thought what a great insurance at £126 pm. It is very clear to me now how this whole system is rigged up.

So to conclude

NHS - in the gutter
Private medical insurance - not fit for purpose really

What a mess

KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 12:31

Tryingtobewellbalanced · 13/06/2024 12:28

Omg it gets worse. This is so insightful to me who thought what a great insurance at £126 pm. It is very clear to me now how this whole system is rigged up.

So to conclude

NHS - in the gutter
Private medical insurance - not fit for purpose really

What a mess

It really is a bit of a conundrum isn’t it! Critical illness cover I’d say is essential as a backup.

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sunflowerdaisyrose · 13/06/2024 13:00

@KindnessisKey I had critical illness cover but claimed in it when I had cancer and now waiting the 5 years to see if I can get covered again! I only had enough cover to pay around a year's salary - wish now I'd covered the whole mortgage! Also lots of things not covered on critical illness cover and it's also an expensive insurance.

KindnessisKey · 13/06/2024 13:34

sunflowerdaisyrose · 13/06/2024 13:00

@KindnessisKey I had critical illness cover but claimed in it when I had cancer and now waiting the 5 years to see if I can get covered again! I only had enough cover to pay around a year's salary - wish now I'd covered the whole mortgage! Also lots of things not covered on critical illness cover and it's also an expensive insurance.

@sunflowerdaisyrose I’m so sorry for you, I hope you’re recovering and can sort this all
out. It’s a horrendous journey to be on and I wish you all the very best.

it’s at times like this you wish things were more helpful when you need it most!

We didn’t call in our critical because I wasn’t working anyway and my husband was able to continue his business - juggling it with everything else, what an amazing lovely husband and I am continually counting my blessings for him because I don’t know what I would have done if I was a single working parent. It’s a ridiculously expensive insurance now private healthcare. I don’t know how anyone but large companies that offer corporate healthcare as part of an employment package are going to afford this. And even then can they? It just baffles me how things have got so bad.

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Byronada · 13/06/2024 13:58

I'm so sorry you have been ill.

It's like anything else - the premiums only stay low if you don't need to use it. As you get older, or if you develop health conditions or get sick, or if you make claims the premiums will increase. It's just how it is. I'm very fortunate that I've never had to claim, but I choose to use the NHS instead if possible to keep my premiums down. My DH has had a couple of surgical operations. Our premiums have doubled in the last 5 years because of his claims and he is now over 70. We pay around £500 per month and I expect it to go up when we renew.

The alternative is to save the money each month to use when needed. I know a few people who have done that as they get older and the premiums become too high.

Angrymum22 · 13/06/2024 14:02

The increased premium is based on your future risk not your past use of your policy. Unfortunately, your primary cancer diagnosis at stage 3 comes with a much higher risk of recurrence, which may well be treatable but the treatments for secondary return are often life long and very expensive. Also your DH heart disease will have hugely increased the risk of future claims, not just heart problems but all the conditions associated with coronary artery disease.

All insurance is based on future risk. If you are involved in a car accident, even if you are not at fault, it is seen as an increase of future risk. It’s a complex area, for example if someone backs into you in your works carpark and you make a claim, the insurance company assumes you will continue to park here while at work so the relative risk of future claims is increased.

I would be inclined to pay the money into a ring fenced savings account and build up funds to cover future healthcare costs.

stressedespresso · 13/06/2024 14:08

Angrymum22 · 13/06/2024 14:02

The increased premium is based on your future risk not your past use of your policy. Unfortunately, your primary cancer diagnosis at stage 3 comes with a much higher risk of recurrence, which may well be treatable but the treatments for secondary return are often life long and very expensive. Also your DH heart disease will have hugely increased the risk of future claims, not just heart problems but all the conditions associated with coronary artery disease.

All insurance is based on future risk. If you are involved in a car accident, even if you are not at fault, it is seen as an increase of future risk. It’s a complex area, for example if someone backs into you in your works carpark and you make a claim, the insurance company assumes you will continue to park here while at work so the relative risk of future claims is increased.

I would be inclined to pay the money into a ring fenced savings account and build up funds to cover future healthcare costs.

In the vast majority of policies, our Bupa one included, past use is taken into account and leads to higher premiums. How much it increases on renewal is directly correlated to how much they’ve paid out in the previous year.

bananaskin123 · 13/06/2024 14:33

@KindnessisKey Sorry to hear what you've been through and now the added concern re horrendous premiums. We're with AXA and quite elderly. This year it's costing us nearly £12,000 so will possibly be our last year with them. However after we renewed I had some literature from a company called HMCA. They quoted £7,500 which, for our age, is understandable. Spoke to a very helpful lady (they answer their own phones, not press 1/2 etc) and was so helpful. Went through everything, sent us their brochure. We've paid our premiums to AXA for this year but will definitely he considering HMCA next year.

Best wishes to you and your family.