Shivering/shaking normal for temp caused by teething?

[Jacksmybaby]

DS 13 mths. Think it's teething. Before bed (he's now asleep) he got very pathetic, lethargic, whimpering and v unlike himself. Bright red face and burning hot. Started shaking/shivering quite violently after coming out of bath, as if he was freezing, even though he was actually burning hot. Is the shaking just a normal symptom of a raised temp? Have dosed him up with Medised which seems to have done the trick (for now).

does medised ahve paracetamol in it? you need paracetamol to reduce the fever.

That does NOT sound like teething.

His temperature sounds very high. Keep an eye on him tonight. Check 2-3 times in the night to make sure his temperature has not shot up. You might need to give another dose of paracetamol.

Shaking and shivering are fairly normalreactions to a high temp (my DCs always get this). However, a high temp isn't a symptom of teething. He's probably coming down with a bug. Hope he gets well soon!

Agree with what has been said keep a close eye on his temp take it regularly as with shaking it normally means a higher one.

Thanks. Nailpolish, yes medised is basically paracetamol plus added antihistamine to help sleep. Have a feeling I will be going in to him several times in the night anyway cotedazur so can keep an eye on him!

Check on him even if he doesn't wake you up in the night - i.e. set your clock for 1 AM and 3 AM for example and check his temperature.

I say this because it sounds like he had a very high temperature with which he was lethargic, and if it shoots up again, he might not wake up and just lie there burning up. I don't mean to scare you, but better safe than sorry.

For future reference, I wouldn't give antihistamine to an infant who is already lethargic with fever.

Ok thanks for advice.

i think id prefer to give calpol instead

hope ds is ok and you have an ok night

I would try children's ibuprofen as well as the paracetamol. When dd was small I was recommended by the GP and HV to give alternating calpol and children's ibuprofen every three hours (e.g. Calpol at 1pm, Ibuprofen at 4pm, etc.). It has been proven that Ibuprofen brings the temperature down more quickly.

Shivering is a sign of a high temperature. I don't want to worry you but Dd had this once at around the same age and ended up having a convulsion. It only lasted a minute or two and she was fine afterwards. I rang the out-of-hours doctor.

I would definitely stay up with him or at least check on him through the night. And make sure he is only lightly dressed, thin cover/sheet. I was told to sit with dd by an open window to let the air circulate around her.

Our paediatrician recommends giving paracetamol to control fever, and to only start alternating with ibuprofen if fever does not come down with paracetamol.

Something about ibuprofen not being so good for your children.

Ibuprofen is not good for anyone but I was told that it has been scientifically proven to work better than Paracetamol on bringing down fever high temperature. You're right, it is best to try Paracetamol first but, if it doesn't work, Ibuprofen can bring the temperature down more quickly and prevent things getting to the convulsion stage.

Ibruprofen extensively used to control temperature and pain in children in hospital.Most temperatures respond better when the medicines are both given.
Ibruprofen only not recommended in asthmatics,although again under hospital conditions it is given.
Please give both,he will repond better!

If a child is so sick he ends up in hospital, it is hardly surprising he is given ibuprofen imho.

If fever responds to paracetamol >> stick with paracetamol

If fever does not respond to paracetamol >> start giving ibuprofen and alternate with paracetamol.

What seems to be the problem with this?

sorry but in a hospital situation paracetamol is always used to bring down temperatures. brufen is very harsh on the stomach - particularly empty ones in the middle of the night

i dont give my children brufen. it is quite damaging to kidneys too

I was at A&E with dd recently (after she woke up shaking with sudden onset fever - they were concerned about septicaemia, but it turned out to be a virus) and they DID give Ibuprofen as well as Paracetamol, routinely, to all the kids coming in with high temps unless they were asthmatic.

But they did start with the Calpol and move on to the Nurofen only if necessary.

Really hope he's better soon, Jacks.

medinol (same brand as medised but without the antihistamine) is just paracetamol the same as calpol

the only difference is the flavouring. DS is allergic to strawberry flavour so he gets medinol (tropical flavour) instead.

also inc temp can be a sign of teething but the other symptoms suggest a bug. paracetamol is the best for lowering a temp as it wont react on the stomach the way neurofen can. hope he's feeling better

Nailpolish perhaps different hospitals have different policies. I have been a paediatric nurse for nearly 20 years and we always use both.
Admittedly we try not to give ibruprofen on an empty stomach,but if a baby is drinking milk that is fine.
We are talking relatively short term use obviously,over a couple of days max.The benefits of dual medication if required outway any risks I think.

Crikey, only just seen that this thread has turned into something of a medical debate! Well the good news is that he's much better this a.m., very whiney and clingy, but not burning up or shivering anymore. Thanks for all the advice and concern. BTW he is a suspected asthmatic (too young to be given a formal diagnosis but takes steroid and ventolin inhalers) so following all your advice will steer clear of ibuprofen! (As it makes me nauseous I have not ever given it to him anyway in case it has the same effect on him.)

That is good Jack!
May be worth giving regular paracetamol over the next cuple of days to keep a lid on any temperatures,rather than treat them when they occur,ifyswim.
Some children do shiver and shake at the first rise in temperature unfortunately.

silentterror - i think policies sometimes even differ from ward to ward!

jacks- glad ds is a bit better today

Nailpolish, how true!
The joys of nursing in the NHS !