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has anyone any experience of laser eye surgery?

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colacubes · 24/03/2008 21:50

My brother is going in for laser eye surgery next week, he has a stigmatisum, which he is having fixed in operation one, then later on (some weeks I would assume) having his eyes lasered to enable him to see without glasses. He's convinced this is the holy grail, but he has worn glasses since he was 3, so not just a small problem.

Just wondered if anyone has any advice or experience good or bad, because his mind is made up, with little research, just blindly throwing himself at it, excuse the pun! :O

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Flamesparrow · 24/03/2008 21:52

I haven't done it myself, but my friend had it done about 18 months ago (I think... it was before I met her, but not long before I met her) and has never looked back

Flamesparrow · 24/03/2008 21:52

Oh god, very unintentional pun there!!!

colacubes · 24/03/2008 23:18

Ta Flame, fingers crossed for my little bro!

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downbutnotout · 25/03/2008 11:17

I had it done seven years ago with two friends, one less blind and one considerably more than me. They both have 20/20 vision still, but I need glasses for long distances (driving and cinema esp). The end result depends on how well you heal, which varies from individual to individual. Still, I highly recommend it and do not regret it, but you do need an experienced practitioner.

No1ErmaBombeckfan · 25/03/2008 11:36

I have very bad eyesight - wearing glasses since I was 5!!

The only thing I have heard about the operation is that it only corrects the vision (cut a lens into the cornea??) to correct the vision at that time and so does not allow for the fact that the vision will change as you grow older.. whereas the newer operations, it is like a cataract operation, where a lens is implanted and so the vision can be corrected with a lens replacement??

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/03/2008 11:43

No1Erma.

Thats the surgery I had but had to have it because I did have cataracts.

I can go into more detail if you like as to why its not like simple cataract surgery in elderly people.

ScienceTeacher · 25/03/2008 11:45

I had laser surgery five years ago - very pleased with it.

No1ErmaBombeckfan · 25/03/2008 11:49

Oh you bad kitten - I so want to get my eyes corrected...

Haven't done so, because opthalmologist said my pregnancy and BF and hormones need to settle before I can consider it..

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/03/2008 12:23

No1erma.

Ok lens replacement surgery:

Bear in mind that I'm just a patient who has had surgery that has had a few things go awry. Means that my view in things is rather coloured but its a real life experience..

Feel free to correct me any lurking ophthalmologist people!

You are right that it is exactly the same op has cataract surgery. The surgeon removes your old lens inside your lens capsule and replaces it with an artificial lens.

There are 3 general kinds of replacement lenses. The standard, fixed focus lens. This is by far and away the most common sort. Most people choose to have perfect vision at distance and therefore may need glasses for intermediate and will need glasses for close up.

Then there are multifocal implants. The sort I have. Very very few people have them on the nhs but given my young age (mid 30's) and a surgeon who fought to do this I've been given them. They have fixed focuses at distant and near. The way the lens works also gives you intermediate. In my case the intermediate has not been very successful making it hard say looking at documents that other are looking at, or when shopping. Computer i've adapted too.

A couple of problems with these lenses. Because everything you look at is split between near and far (creating double images) your brain has to work out what its looking at. Mostly this is fine but it can give huge huge halos and glare problems. Night driving can be compromised. Also when I look at lit street signs I get a double image. I also find that one of my eyes gives me problems when looking at things on a bright background. The sky 'leaks' on to roof lines for instance. With these lenses I've also found I've lost some contrast vision. In dim light I can't see the details I used to.

The other kind of lens is the crystalens. It is supposed to accommodate using the muscles that held your lens to move back and forth. I don't know much about these at all except I've read of them not always being as successful as hoped.

So thats the surgery.

If you are having surgery because you are very short sighted then it makes you more prone to posterior vitreous detachment. The vitreous can start to break down at the back of the eye, coming away from the retina. As well as very occasionally causing retinal problems it can leave you with huge floaters that can make your vision feel 'dirty' that happened to me. It does happen to most people by the time they are elderly but surgery can bring it on. With me it was only a month or so. It was scary as I was getting a lot of flashing lights and had to be seen as an emergency.

Next. If you are having the surgery young, it makes you more prone to posterior capsular opacification. The back of the capsule holding the lens in can become cloudy, much like a cataract. This requires further surgery - laser - to cut away the back of the capsule. This also happened to me. Its generally minor surgery but the multifocal made it much harder.

And i have been very very unfortunate that now one of my lenses is itself developing a problem. Have posted about this before. Replacing that lens is major eye surgery and a risk I don't want to take.

So in literally a year. (this week is anniversary of second eye having cataract op) I've gone from a person with normal shortsighted eyes (but with cataracts that were impacting on my vision) to having 'dirty' vision, blurry in one eye, struggling to read in anything but bright light unable to drive at night or in dull conditions. I've had to give up my sewing until I can work out how to adapt round it. I needed the surgery.

I wouldnt recommend doing this just to get rid of glasses if glasses are giving you good vision. I honestly don't believe its worth compromising good correctable vision.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/03/2008 12:24

blimey - that was long!
Its been a complicated experience!

No1ErmaBombeckfan · 25/03/2008 12:44

Thank you so much for this...

Eyes are such a weak point in my family - I have -13.5 in my Left eye and a -12 in my r eye with astigmatism on top of a lot of other things ! I don't think that I can continue to wreck my eyes with contact lenses or wear my coke bottle glasses so I am keen for some alternative, but it is a tricky decision if something should go wrong..

I am sorry to hear of your experiences - the loss of sight and speed at which it happens is sometimes so frightening... I hope the surgeons can help you..

colacubes · 25/03/2008 13:17

oh, wow, thanks for all your comments, I have just had a quick read but will sit down and give it all justice when I've finished work.

BadKitten so sorry its gone pear shaped, it must be very scary for you, will have a good look through and pass on your story to my brother. No doubt I will have questions later on for you all, so dont go away will you!! Thanks again,

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 25/03/2008 13:28

You are welcome No1Erma. Sorry to be so negative about it. It has been a pretty upsetting and scary sequence. I'm absolutely certain the vast majority of people wouldn't have my experience else my surgeon wouldn't have recommended this. Its just something that I wouldn't recommend unless essential.

I think there is another option: Implantable contact lenses. Have you looked at that? I know nothing about its safety or suitability but it might be worth talking over with your ophthalmologist.

colacubes. Fortunately laser surgery on the cornea is nowehere near as invasive as cataract surgery he may have problems still though with glare and dry eye. I have to say, the one procedure that hasnt given me any trouble at all was the astigmatism correction that was done as part of the cataract surgery in one eye. Its very similar to laser surgery but was done the old fashioned way with a scalpel. It was sore after but given me no probs.

ScienceTeacher · 26/03/2008 07:59

With your prescription, Erma, you should go to somewhere with lots of experience and top notch equipment - such as Moorfield.

The place where I had my laser surgery would not touch anyone worse than -7. The vast majority of problems or disatisfaction come from people with very poor eyesight going in.

amidaiwish · 26/03/2008 08:20

i have looked into this and decided to stick with contact lenses, for now, as they don't give me any trouble.

my optician said that nearly half of his patients come to him after trouble with laser surgery. Then they can't wear lenses, so glasses is the only option.

Obviously it is in his interest for me not to have the laser surgery, but i don't think he is making this up. He is incredibly busy as an optician!

So i agree with badkitten, if lenses/glasses are giving good vision, stick with them!

The lenses i have i can wear for 2 weeks at a time. I don't because i can't go to sleep without taking my lenses out and having some "blurry" time in bed (weird but true, i have tried). Also the new contact lenses now are much higher water content, higher oxygen content and much kinder to your eyes.

ScienceTeacher · 26/03/2008 08:24

My opthalmologist started out his sales pitch by saying that if you are happy with your contact lenses or glasses, there is no point in going for laser surgery. The tiny risk is not balanced by a meaningful advantage to you.

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