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Wonder if my issues actually stem from my stomach rather than bowel?

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Theredfolder · 01/08/2023 19:01

I have had IBS type issues for years. Had endless tests but all come back negative so always told it’s IBS.

Have tried literally everything to help conquer this. I have tried various diets, avoiding ‘trigger’ foods/additives/sweetners etc (including dairy and wheat) and all drinks, to the point I am now on a strict low fodmap diet (been on it far too long which is not ideal) and drink only water so all very boring.
I feel that I have tried most of the off the shelf medications and remedies for IBS as well as most of the prescribed ones too.
I exercise, sleep 8 hours a day. I listen to all the gut directed IBS stuff/meditation etc.
Yet none of these things even reduce the symptoms by a little.

I have had so many gastro appointments and so many horrid tests and I feel they now just shrug their shoulders at me because they just don’t know what to do.

Yet I am still having daily symptoms.

But I am starting to wonder if my issues originate from my actual stomach?

I do have all the classic lower gut issues/IBS symptoms like mixed diarrhoea and/or sometimes constipation. Lots of gas, bloating and pain in certain areas and a general uncomfortable and unpredictable bowel but I also have upper issues too and it feels as though this is where it’s all generated from and then works it’s way down to my intestines and bowels?
I will get such a nasty queasy/ nausea feeling and acid like sensation which sometimes radiates to my back and lots of bubbling/popping (I am sitting here in a quiet room and my stomach sounds like a bubbling science experiment!). I can burp quite a bit too. Yet no test has ever picked up gastritis or any other stomach issue.

When I eat I often feel full quite quick, queasy and burpy and as though the food is fermenting in my actual stomach, several hours later it travels down to my intestinal and bowel area and that is when I bloat something crazy (I look 8 months pregnant) and the pain from that bloat can have me rolling on the floor. It can literally take hours to come out the other end as gas.

I had a gastroscope 3 years ago and biopsies for h pylori and coeliac, they were clear. I have also swallowed a pill camera which came back fine apart from a small erosion in my stomach, the gastro said this was nothing of concern and may have been caused by the prep I had to take beforehand. I have had a colonoscopy recently which was clear (still waiting on results from the microscopic colitis biopsies). A few months ago I had a us scan on my upper digestive issues, no gall stones etc. Also had a pelvic scan earlier this year, I do have some gynae issues but that scan was clear.

I am just getting nowhere with my GP I have googled so many things and fallen down lots of rabbit holes but am now wondering if I may have something like low stomach acid and due to that I may not be digesting my food efficiently enough (I do sometimes get a bad smell on my breath and funny taste)?

I know that I am grasping at straws but desperate to feel well again. I feel like I am having to be my own health detective as the gastro has now discharged me even though I still have all these symptoms and I’m on my own trying to find a cause to all of this.

Has anyone else had anything like this?

OP posts:
Theredfolder · 06/08/2023 09:50

SerenityNowInsanityLater thanks I’ll get myself some b1. I do often wonder if I have low acid, I do have all the symptoms.
Boredofmyguts I do follow Dr Aviv but not the other, I will che k him
our. Tbh, I’ve only used a ppi for a very small time, maybe days, they made me so unwell, I’ll never touch them
again.
I know they say low stomach acid is a rare thing but they were saying that about SIBO not long ago and now many gastroenterologists (including my own) are saying it’s most probably more common than they think. My NHS trust now offer the Healthpath SIBO test. 25 years ago when I first developed gut issues my gastro actually laughed at me when I mentioned SIBO, he didn’t know what it was!
MeinKraft I had one just a few months ago, all ok.
SerenityNowInsanityLater I genuinely believe low stomach acid is a thing too.
Fiddlersgreen I have the test to do via my hospital.
Safxxx I am gluten and wheat free, sadly it’s not helped at all.
DatingDinosaur I have tried the bicarbonate thing. I did it every morning as part of a ‘test’ to see how I reacted to it. I tried it every morning for a week an never burped once!

OP posts:
Theredfolder · 06/08/2023 09:52

SerenityNowInsanityLater thanks I’ll get myself some b1. I do often wonder if I have low acid, I do have all the symptoms.
Boredofmyguts I do follow Dr Aviv but not the other, I will che k him
our. Tbh, I’ve only used a ppi for a very small time, maybe days, they made me so unwell, I’ll never touch them
again.
I know they say low stomach acid is a rare thing but they were saying that about SIBO not long ago and now many gastroenterologists (including my own) are saying it’s most probably more common than they think. My NHS trust now offer the Healthpath SIBO test. 25 years ago when I first developed gut issues my gastro actually laughed at me when I mentioned SIBO, he didn’t know what it was!
MeinKraft I had one just a few months ago, all ok.
SerenityNowInsanityLater I genuinely believe low stomach acid is a thing too.
Fiddlersgreen I have the test to do via my hospital.
Safxxx I am gluten and wheat free, sadly it’s not helped at all.
DatingDinosaur I have tried the bicarbonate thing. I did it every morning as part of a ‘test’ to see how I reacted to it. I tried it every morning for a week an never burped once!

OP posts:
Londonnight · 06/08/2023 10:17

Have you had a sehcat scan for bile acid malabsorption?

Woody2024 · 06/08/2023 10:54

Had similar was related to use of the contraceptive pill. Switched to another method and never had an issue since.

ThunderclapCloud · 06/08/2023 11:11

I had slight symptoms of gerd. Was put on lansoprazole and ended up way worse. Had to wean myself off it very slowly by opening the capsules, removing a few granules at a time, then closing the capsules before swallowing. I learnt the hard way that stopping suddenly does you no good at all!

I too looked into the low acidity theory. Many gallons of bone broth later, plus a diet free from wheat and processed food later (more or less - I'm not obsessive about it) and my insides have settled down completely.

There's a book called The Body Keeps The Score. Worth a read as digestive problems can stem from a body that's holding on to trauma.

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