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NHS. Why do they do this?

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bestbefore · 23/06/2023 17:50

I asked GP ages ago for a dexa scan.
She did the referral
I didn't hear for awhile so checked & was told to be patient - fair enough
This week I get a text for an appointment- no mention of what it was for but I guessed dexa. It's for a date next week that I can't do. I can text to cancel, which I do.
I then get another text which says a new appointment will be set for me and if I can't make 2 more appointments my details will be removed from the system.
I then get the letter, 2 days later, with details of the scan.
There's a number on the letter to call re appointment so I call and explain I've cancelled and could I rearrange? No I'm told they will schedule it for me.

This is ridiculous isn't it? Why is it so crap? Why isn't there an online thingy where you can book it with say a code from the gp? I know that costs money but so does silly letters and people answering the phone but unable to do anything!

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BAFlightQuestion · 24/06/2023 11:38

ActDottie · 23/06/2023 19:18

I don’t really mind just being given an appointment. It’s for my health so I’d always prioritise above other things and make the time to go.

That’s ridiculous- what about my DS who was sent a date for a surgical procedure two days after an already booked bigger operation (with GA), within the same hospital? 🙄

HobnobsChoice · 24/06/2023 11:55

Similar situation for me. I'm waiting for gall bladder removal and prolapse surgery. After 2 years waiting the appointments are on the same day 15 minutes apart and in hospitals 20 miles away. Unfortunately I can't just send my fanny off on the bus on her own to be examined, it's mostly quite well attached to the rest of me. Perhaps if I end up fully prolapsed that would be an option.
Thankfully I was able to reschedule the gallbladder appt.

FixTheBone · 24/06/2023 12:00

It's all down to chronic under-resourcing of services, all services.

When requests for appointments, scans, tests come in, they all have to be triaged, some are clearly going to be life and death urgent, and some are completely routine.

Because the system has no spare capacity, and targets to meet, for example a 2 week wait for urgent cancer referrals, to a service that sees new referrals, follow-ups and routine cases and they're expecting say 20 referrals per week, that means they have to keep 20 slots open, all the way up to 2 weeks before the clinic / radiology slot. Once you get to within 2 weeks, you may find there are unused slots which can then be filled at short notice, hence the letter arrives after the appointment or other such nonsense.

It would be great to have a system that allows people to book and choose an appointment - but in reality it's virtually impossible to administer electronically - for example my clinic runs on a monday afternoon, apart from bank holidays, the days every 12th week I cover another service, unless the previous week was a bank holiday, then its 13th week, annual leave, study leave, departmental meetings - all of which can change up to 6 weeks before the appointment. Even with 5 real humans administering it all, it still goes wrong more often than I'd care to count - patients turning up to clinics that aren't running, or patients needing to see me, and only the registrar is there - again.... No electronic system is going to be able to cope with that.

massiveclamps · 24/06/2023 12:01

DustyLee123 · 24/06/2023 09:50

The text won’t say what it’s for as it could be seen on the screen by anyone. It’s GDPR.

A letter addressed to you can be opened by anyone, likewise an email can be seen by whoever knows your password. A text message sent to your personal phone is far less likely to be seen by somebody other than yourself.

Rainbowqueeen · 24/06/2023 12:18

I had no idea until I starting using mumsnet that the NHS has such a ridiculous system.

For comparison in Australia. I can book a GP appointment online as my GP uses hotdocs, a website that any GP practice can use (for a fee) to book appointments. I choose if I need a standard consultation, long consultation, skin check, child vaccination and it shows me all the available times. I choose one, get an email confirmation and a text reminder the day before.
Mammogram clinic sends me a letter saying I can have an appointment on x day and I ring and book in for a time that is available and that suits me.
Any referrals- the GP sends the referral to the specialist so they can triage me and I ring to book an appointment. As specialist has my referral they suggest the appropriate day and tell me what times are available. I get a text reminder the day before for all appointments.

The NHS system would do my head in. Yes there is still a problem in Australia with people missing appointments but at least we can book something that suits us so it’s less likely

Racheltension1 · 12/12/2023 13:08

Last time I had treatment and medication in a Welsh hospital, which I couldn't fault, I was handed a piece of pink paper in the hospital pharmacy. The writing on it was really faint...I then realised they were still using those blotter pads with three different colours of paper where you press through onto the blue ink sheet! Not seen or used them since the 90s. Then I was handed the sheet and asked if I could 'pop it into the surgery when you're passing, so they know what's happened here'. I mean I did do that, but really? In 2023? They have to ask the patients themselves to physically hand deliver little pieces of paper around the place, or the surgery would just have no idea what had happened at the hospital? Treatment great, admin 'systems' laughable.

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