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Xylitol toothpaste for toddler/children

17 replies

jasperc163 · 20/02/2008 07:46

Does anyone know of a toothpaste with xylitol (and flouride) that doesnt have SLS?

thanks
alice

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jasperc163 · 20/02/2008 11:48

Noone? My brother (who lives in germany) gets some american brand called Squigle but a) the flouride isnt measured in the same way - it says 0.24%?? so i cant tell if its too strong b) not sure i can get it here.

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jasperc163 · 20/02/2008 14:42

Me again :-) I have foudn out that the Squigle toothpaste has 1000ppmF. This is on the low side for adults but i think a bit high for a toddler who isnt yet spitting it out properly (particularly given the fact that i think it may be possible that she has some mild fluorosis?)

Such a pity as the stuff is fab and i can't find anything else that is right.

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Lazycow · 20/02/2008 14:51

I'm not sure what the problem is - Genuine question

I know when I was in the UISA they did have sonme flouride free toothpaste/gel for babbies

What is fluorosis?

prettybird · 20/02/2008 14:54

I seem to remember that one fo thre BOots children's toothpastes had Xylitol in it. Not sur eif it still does.

WendyWeber · 20/02/2008 14:54

What's SLS?

WendyWeber · 20/02/2008 14:57

It did, prettybird - the one with the crocodile on the tube - it's not on their website any more though.

marina · 20/02/2008 14:58

Was still in the shops until recently, we have a hoard

ComeOVeneer · 20/02/2008 14:58

Sodium Lauryl Sulphate.

ComeOVeneer · 20/02/2008 15:06

Basically sls inhibits xylitol's ability to be effective it preventing dental decay.

Xylitol works in 4 ways orally

(1) It cannot be fermented by mouth bacteria, which means it prevents the demineralization of tooth enamel.
(2) It neutralizes acid produced by fermentable carbohydrates keeping the pH level in your mouth at a safe level.
(3) It inhibits plaque accumulation and cariogenic bacteria.
(4) It promotes the remineralization of teeth, thus can help repair very small ealry carious lesions.

jasperc163 · 20/02/2008 15:08

hi there- in answer to questions above

As above, SLS is sodium lauryl sulphate
" Sodium Lauryl/Laureth Sulfate (SLS/SLES) is the most common surfactant used in kids toiletries to make them foam and cleanse. Its widely used by big manufacturers as its cheap and effective but it can sometimes cause skin irritants or even worse aggravate serious conditions like dermatitis or eczema. This is because, being a harsh detergent, it can strip the skin and hair of its natural oils" (copied from halos and horns website). Basically not something i want DD to swallow if i can avoid it, and also linked with mouth ulcers etc.

I think you are right about the Boots toothpaste prettybird but it also has SLS i think (most mainstream brands do).

Lazycow - i'm not after a fluoride free version, just one with child safe levels until she learns to spit.

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ComeOVeneer · 20/02/2008 15:12

For children up to the age of 3 you should use a smear of toothpaste containing no less than 1000 ppm fluoride, for 3-6 year olds a pea sized blob of 1350-1500ppm fluoride toothpaste and for the 7 and overs 1350ppm fluoride toothpaste or above.

jasperc163 · 20/02/2008 15:16

thanks ComeOVeneer - can i guess from your name that you are a dentist?

Does this mean that I would be safe using the Squigle toothpate? THis has high levels of xylitol (36%), no SLS or other detergents and 1000ppmF. The American manufacturer emailed me and said they recommend it from 6 onwards when children are spitting it out, but there is nothing apart from the fluoride levels that could be a problems.

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WendyWeber · 20/02/2008 17:47

CoV, does that mean that in all the standard toothpastes with xylitol it doesn't help at all because of the SLS? What's the point of that then?

jasper, I see what you mean, I tried googling and it seems that toothpaste either has SLS and fluoride, or neither. How odd.

ComeOVeneer · 20/02/2008 18:00

Well from recent research the following was reported.

The bacteriostatic (and cariostatic) effect of xylitol is assumed to be caused by intracellular accumulation of xylitol-5-P in plaque bacteria. Experiments were designed to investigate whether presence of SLS would affect the uptake of xylitol by interacting with the bacterial membranes and thus inhibit xylitol-5-P formation. It was shown in an in vitro study that even very low concentrations of the strong anionic detergent SLS inhibited uptake of xylitol and xylitol-5-phosphate formation by dental plaque totally.

So in other words yes it would appear that xylitol is rendered pretty much useless in the presence of SLS.

WendyWeber · 20/02/2008 18:04

Thank you for the translation

jasperc163 · 20/02/2008 18:21

Really useful, thanks ComeOVeneer

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prettybird · 21/02/2008 12:40

SO the xylitol in the teethin granules sachets is probably more effective, as it woulnd't have any SLS?

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