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Health anxiety… no longer coping

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Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 10:03

Hi everyone. I don’t know what I want from this post, maybe others experiences to know that I’m not by myself, some tips and advice on how to cope and if anybody knows of any support groups online or routes to take as far as health anxiety goes?

please don’t be too tough on me as I am fragile to say the least. Per my last posts, I suffer daily with chest pain and back pain and this has lead to debilitating health anxiety that something is wrong with my heart. (I’ve been to a&e twice for ECGs and blood tests this year and all were clear). I think it’s time to admit that I don’t really have a heart problem, I have a mental problem.

it happened just last night. Sitting watching a film, not doing or thinking about anything at all. Then suddenly a tight, squeezing and pressure sensation in the left side of my chest, pain in my left arm and it went almost numb like I couldn’t move it around. I did some breathing and got myself off to sleep. This morning I have got up late to take my son to school. I feel fatigued and weak, like if I stood for too long I’d just drop, I’m so exhausted. I feel sick and I still have the chest pain. It’s quite bad and I’m sat here now trying to convince myself that it’s not an impending heart attack but it is fact just anxiety.

I know all the symptoms of a heart attack after a doctor told me what they were, since I’ve known what they were I’ve had every single one of them. But it does hurt my shoulders and upper back when I press into them, which leads me to believe it could also be a muscular issue and not just all in my head entirely.

I don’t know what I’m trying to say. I can’t cope. It’s been like this for 6 months. Sometimes I have a good day and feel like I’ve got it under control. But most days it consumes me, my life and my thoughts. It’s impacting my mood, my relationship, and my outlook on life. Sometimes I think it would be best if I really did have a heart attack, so it would all be over and I’d be gone. I just want to get on with my life, without the fear that every pain in my chest is a heart attack starting. Has anybody lived through this, or health anxiety in general? Maybe about something other than the heart, but just something related to physical health? I think it’s time to accept that I need mental help. (I have already tried sertraline and beta blockers but sertraline made me unbearably worse so I came off them and a different GP took me off the propronalol not sure why) What methods do you use to cope when you feel like you are “dying”? TIA

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coloursquare · 15/05/2023 12:59

I think you have to accept that, to a certain extent, things are out of your control. Self-monitoring and worrying is not keeping you safe - it's your mind trying to trick you.

Orangesandlemons77 · 15/05/2023 13:02

Hi OP I get this too. Mine started after a real health emergency a few years ago. Did anything trigger yours? Family with health problems perhaps?

I do have chronic pain, mine is after shingles (which ironically seems to be stress related) anyway i am going to try this app called Curable which is for chronic pain.

Just wondering of something like that might help you. Or CBT.

Odile13 · 15/05/2023 13:06

I have bad health anxiety and I use books like the two below to help me when going through a bad period:

Needing to know for sure by Martin Seif and Sally Winston

Self-help for your nerves by Dr Claire Weekes

I hope you find something that helps you soon. I know how debilitating it can be to face this battle every day.

Angrymum22 · 15/05/2023 13:15

Panic attacks are often mistaken for heart attacks. They cause real, frightening symptoms as a result of you taking short breaths which alter blood chemistry. You may be totally unaware that you are causing them.
Next time it happens try holding your breath for periods of 15 seconds. This helps restore the correct carbon dioxide levels in your body. They used to get you breathing int and out of a paper bag but holding your breath is just as effective.
Practice controlling your breathing. Breathe in over a slow count of 3 then exhale over another slow count of 3. When you start to feel anxious it really helps because it makes you concentrate on something other than the anxiety trigger.

Orangesandlemons77 · 15/05/2023 14:05

I use a nice app called Calm which has some nice meditation, I mainly use music on there

JustDanceAddict · 15/05/2023 14:10

I’m having cbt for health anxiety currently. I self-referred on the nhs and it has given me some decent ideas to implement even if it’s all a bit simplistic.

PandaSock · 15/05/2023 14:13

Huge sympathies for how you're feeling, op. I know how horrible it is. I've just finished some high intensity CBT on the nhs for health anxiety and it's really worked for me. Perhaps that might be something to look into?

Theoriginalinvisiblewoman · 15/05/2023 17:16

I haven’t got any advice for you OP but I just wanted to say that I know how you feel, I’ve been suffering from health anxiety for a few years now, due to developing all manner of weird symptoms where there is never a medical reason. Over the past 3 years there isn’t a part of my body I haven’t had either and issue with or pain in! 😳 It’s been relentless and despite having test after test, I’m the healthiest ‘sick’ person you could meet because nothing ever explains the symptoms I get. It’s got to the point now that any new ache or pain sends me into a panic and I’ll fixate on it 😩 I hate being like this but I just can’t help it. I’ve had counselling and CBT therapy but nothing helps. I get anxiety which makes my heart race and I get palpitations so then I worry my heart is going to stop during these episodes, which of course just makes it worse! I hope you find something that works for you so you can learn to relax a little (which in turn will probably ease your symptoms) 💐

Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 18:41

Theoriginalinvisiblewoman · 15/05/2023 17:16

I haven’t got any advice for you OP but I just wanted to say that I know how you feel, I’ve been suffering from health anxiety for a few years now, due to developing all manner of weird symptoms where there is never a medical reason. Over the past 3 years there isn’t a part of my body I haven’t had either and issue with or pain in! 😳 It’s been relentless and despite having test after test, I’m the healthiest ‘sick’ person you could meet because nothing ever explains the symptoms I get. It’s got to the point now that any new ache or pain sends me into a panic and I’ll fixate on it 😩 I hate being like this but I just can’t help it. I’ve had counselling and CBT therapy but nothing helps. I get anxiety which makes my heart race and I get palpitations so then I worry my heart is going to stop during these episodes, which of course just makes it worse! I hope you find something that works for you so you can learn to relax a little (which in turn will probably ease your symptoms) 💐

Thanks for your message - it made me really sad to read this actually, as I find it incredibly upsetting to know other people are suffering with this when I know how terrible it really is. I really hope you manage to get better. Thank you for reminding me that I’m not alone. hugs

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Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 18:42

PandaSock · 15/05/2023 14:13

Huge sympathies for how you're feeling, op. I know how horrible it is. I've just finished some high intensity CBT on the nhs for health anxiety and it's really worked for me. Perhaps that might be something to look into?

Thank you for your message. I hope you are feeling better now. I’m definitely going to look into CBT. The waiting list is just so long even in cases where it’s ruining your day life. Hope your anxiety comes to an end soon

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Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 18:43

JustDanceAddict · 15/05/2023 14:10

I’m having cbt for health anxiety currently. I self-referred on the nhs and it has given me some decent ideas to implement even if it’s all a bit simplistic.

Is that through “Mind”? I have had general talking therapy with them before, but never had CBT. I’m going to look into this.

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Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 18:43

Orangesandlemons77 · 15/05/2023 14:05

I use a nice app called Calm which has some nice meditation, I mainly use music on there

I’ve just found this app - wish they didn’t charge for some parts of it though! Hope it works well for you

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Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 18:44

Angrymum22 · 15/05/2023 13:15

Panic attacks are often mistaken for heart attacks. They cause real, frightening symptoms as a result of you taking short breaths which alter blood chemistry. You may be totally unaware that you are causing them.
Next time it happens try holding your breath for periods of 15 seconds. This helps restore the correct carbon dioxide levels in your body. They used to get you breathing int and out of a paper bag but holding your breath is just as effective.
Practice controlling your breathing. Breathe in over a slow count of 3 then exhale over another slow count of 3. When you start to feel anxious it really helps because it makes you concentrate on something other than the anxiety trigger.

Thank you for your helpful advice. They really do feel like they “mimic” heart attack symptoms as the pain feels very much physical. It’s hard to convince yourself in these moments that it’s all just anxiety.

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Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 18:45

Odile13 · 15/05/2023 13:06

I have bad health anxiety and I use books like the two below to help me when going through a bad period:

Needing to know for sure by Martin Seif and Sally Winston

Self-help for your nerves by Dr Claire Weekes

I hope you find something that helps you soon. I know how debilitating it can be to face this battle every day.

Thank you for your recommendations, I will look into these and I’m so sorry to hear you deal with the same

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Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 18:45

coloursquare · 15/05/2023 12:59

I think you have to accept that, to a certain extent, things are out of your control. Self-monitoring and worrying is not keeping you safe - it's your mind trying to trick you.

Very true. The more I obsess over it, the worse it becomes.

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ChattermaxFromBluey · 15/05/2023 19:12

I have had health anxiety for over a decade now, never been to docs about the anxiety though. But I should have.

it all started when I felt run down and soembody made an innocuous comment relating to a disease, then I convinced myself they must be right. had what I think was a mini breakdown looking back at it. Got myself tested for disease, negative.

then it hit me one day; well what if it was XYZ instead? And oh fuck, my stomach dropped like a ton of bricks. Went from elated I’d tested negative to worried. spent the next decade thinking maybe I have that. Panicking about it. Never been tested for it. Not been to docs. I just tell myself I don’t have it. As time goes on, I’m pretty convinced I don’t. But I still think about it sometimes. Going to the docs for the first test was hard enough. Not sure I could do it again.

as I got married, the worry was that I was pregnant. Cus it’d ruin the dress/plans. I’d have had 3 normal periods in a row and would still go and buy a test for reassurance

these days, I seem to be obsessed with a new health Worry. And think about that a lot too. Worry about it often but again, reticent to go get tested/looked at. I am pretty certain it’s normal.

i feel like I have this doom like cloud over my head saying something is going to happen, you will get ill. Its a matter of time before you find out with what. It’s obviously because it happened to a parent - they got an illness and died - then a few years later, I have anxiety. Though I think looking back, I have some panic attacks before that too. It’s exacerbated recently due to having a child (now I worry I’m going to leave her behind, without me, and it breaks my heart).

I also wonder if I’m periomenopausal as I think things have ramped up in the last year. I am almost 38 so it’d be a bit early but not unheard of.

I do think the days I can’t cope are linked to my monthly cycle though. Maybe a change or surge or hormones. I think that’s when a tiny bit of stress sends me over the edge. Not health stress, any stress.

im also quite overweight now so that prob disrupts hormones further.

to add to my health anxiety, I now have a good 2 -3 non health things I think about often, worry about and obsess over sometimes 🙄🙄

it’s like my brain is continually searching for that threat, that thing that will “belly drop” moment. Whether it’s “you left the iron on”, to “that mole wasnt there before, was it?”

then I get a bit of work/life stress and it all comes to head, like I can’t cope. Panic.

I also find it really difficult to leave the house. It’s worse during those times.

I won’t drive anywhere anymore either. Well that’s a lie. I’ll drive two local ten min journeys but no, won’t go anywhere else.

writing out does make me question why don’t I go to the docs and sort this once and for all? But I literally couldn’t picture myself doing that.

myself aside- it sounds obvious but indigestion? I had Some earlier and honestly did question if it was a heart attack this morning for about 10 mins!!! I never normally get it at all! It bloody hurt - a lot.

Eyesopenwideawake · 15/05/2023 20:53

I've had a search but couldn't find the post so this is just a precise.

Someone recently said they'd diagnosed themselves with cancer, heart attack, MS and a dozen other diseases - none of which they were actually suffering from. The conclusion they made was that if they were actually a doctor they would have been struck off years ago for being useless...

Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 22:56

ChattermaxFromBluey · 15/05/2023 19:12

I have had health anxiety for over a decade now, never been to docs about the anxiety though. But I should have.

it all started when I felt run down and soembody made an innocuous comment relating to a disease, then I convinced myself they must be right. had what I think was a mini breakdown looking back at it. Got myself tested for disease, negative.

then it hit me one day; well what if it was XYZ instead? And oh fuck, my stomach dropped like a ton of bricks. Went from elated I’d tested negative to worried. spent the next decade thinking maybe I have that. Panicking about it. Never been tested for it. Not been to docs. I just tell myself I don’t have it. As time goes on, I’m pretty convinced I don’t. But I still think about it sometimes. Going to the docs for the first test was hard enough. Not sure I could do it again.

as I got married, the worry was that I was pregnant. Cus it’d ruin the dress/plans. I’d have had 3 normal periods in a row and would still go and buy a test for reassurance

these days, I seem to be obsessed with a new health Worry. And think about that a lot too. Worry about it often but again, reticent to go get tested/looked at. I am pretty certain it’s normal.

i feel like I have this doom like cloud over my head saying something is going to happen, you will get ill. Its a matter of time before you find out with what. It’s obviously because it happened to a parent - they got an illness and died - then a few years later, I have anxiety. Though I think looking back, I have some panic attacks before that too. It’s exacerbated recently due to having a child (now I worry I’m going to leave her behind, without me, and it breaks my heart).

I also wonder if I’m periomenopausal as I think things have ramped up in the last year. I am almost 38 so it’d be a bit early but not unheard of.

I do think the days I can’t cope are linked to my monthly cycle though. Maybe a change or surge or hormones. I think that’s when a tiny bit of stress sends me over the edge. Not health stress, any stress.

im also quite overweight now so that prob disrupts hormones further.

to add to my health anxiety, I now have a good 2 -3 non health things I think about often, worry about and obsess over sometimes 🙄🙄

it’s like my brain is continually searching for that threat, that thing that will “belly drop” moment. Whether it’s “you left the iron on”, to “that mole wasnt there before, was it?”

then I get a bit of work/life stress and it all comes to head, like I can’t cope. Panic.

I also find it really difficult to leave the house. It’s worse during those times.

I won’t drive anywhere anymore either. Well that’s a lie. I’ll drive two local ten min journeys but no, won’t go anywhere else.

writing out does make me question why don’t I go to the docs and sort this once and for all? But I literally couldn’t picture myself doing that.

myself aside- it sounds obvious but indigestion? I had Some earlier and honestly did question if it was a heart attack this morning for about 10 mins!!! I never normally get it at all! It bloody hurt - a lot.

I’m so sorry to hear your going through this - it’s horrifying isn’t it!! Maybe you could go to the doctors for some tests - it is their job after all - if it would put your mind at rest and reassure you there’s nothing wrong, then it maybe an appointment well spent. But if you keep obsessing over different kinds of health issues, maybe you’ll clear one and start to obsess over another - So maybe making a docs appointment for anxiety will help you more? I have had panic attacks for years but they have skyrocketed since the birth of my 2nd child 8 months ago. I had pregnancy complications throughout which put me and baby at high risk for sepsis (my waters broke at 23 weeks pregnant so no sac to cover infection). I made it to 37 weeks before I was induced - and though I had spent all those weeks by a miracle avoiding sepsis, I got it during labour!! I was extremely poorly on an IV drip and had to stay in hospital, luckily my son was OK except for bad jaundice. I don’t know if this has made my existing health fears 10x worse - I found the whole experience very traumatic, and would maybe benefit for some counselling for that alone. I have already had GERD tablets for indigestion and heartburn due to some consistent stomach pain and nausea at the beginning of the year, but they haven’t helped at all so I don’t think it’s that. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!!

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Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 22:58

Eyesopenwideawake · 15/05/2023 20:53

I've had a search but couldn't find the post so this is just a precise.

Someone recently said they'd diagnosed themselves with cancer, heart attack, MS and a dozen other diseases - none of which they were actually suffering from. The conclusion they made was that if they were actually a doctor they would have been struck off years ago for being useless...

This made me laugh 😂As sad as it is, sometimes I joke about it to DP and say I should be in the Guiness book of records for “longest running heart attack ever recorded”

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Mumof2boysxz · 15/05/2023 22:58

Eyesopenwideawake · 15/05/2023 18:47

Have a look at this video, it might help you;

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Thank you!!

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waterlego · 15/05/2023 23:10

I have health anxiety though it is currently mild and under control. Mine is centred around cancer which was clearly triggered by my parents both dying of cancer in their mid 60s within 10 weeks of each other (10 years ago). Things that have helped me at various points: Sertraline (SSRI). I was on a high dose for a couple of years and it made a world of difference. I think it might actually have saved me. I’ve also had some success with CBT (used online resources) and have often found solace in yoga and exercise in general. I know some people think yoga is a bit wanky, but honestly, it’s sometimes the only way I can shut my brain up because I have to just be in my body for an hour. The movement is absorbing and helps me to ‘be in the moment’, which is a key thing for tackling any type of anxiety.

Someone may have already mentioned this upthread (haven’t read all replies yet) but one of the worst things you can do with health anxiety is to seek reassurance. It helps, but only fleetingly and then more reassurance is needed. I reached a point where I realised that the only reassurance that would fit the bill would be having a team of specialists in my house 24 hours a day, along with all types of scanning and testing equipment. Yes, we should still talk to our GP about any physical symptoms we’re having, but we should also talk to them about our anxiety, because GPs can help!

I wish you all the luck in the world in tackling this. I’m so sorry you’re going through it, many of us here know how horrendous it is. You’re not alone. 💐

waterlego · 15/05/2023 23:18

So sorry- I’d missed the bit in your OP where you said you had tried Sertraline. There are other you could try though.

garlictwist · 16/05/2023 15:55

I have health anxiety too and it's ruining my life. For me, I don't worry about diseases but having stress fractures and muscular skeletal issues. I have spent so much money on scans of random bits of my body. My credit card is maxed out and I have £60 to last me to the rest of the month as a result.

The problem is I genuinely do have real pain. I have really questioned myself and I am sure it's not in my head.

I feel incapable of enjoying life. I wake up in the middle of the night and instantly start googling about stress fractures and bones and drive myself insane with worry.

I don't know how to get past this.

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