Fell on Thursday it's got worse by tonight

[abblie]

Had a wee slip on Thursday though I just knocked my Calf. Today my Calf is twice the size as my other leg. I can't put my left foot flat on ground due to pain and when attempting to walk I'm on my tiptoes do I need medical help

Overall pain 8/10 it has been wrapped, evaluated and covered in ibrofen cream/gel and nothing has helped 1 bit

Has it bruised badly? What exactly did you do, knock your knee, or your ankle?

Have you been resting it since, or hobbling around shopping centres?

I'd go to bed, get 8 hours sleep and see how it feels in the morning. Have a day of gentle exercise wearing supportive shoes. Keep moving but nowhere in a rush.

If you can't walk, you need to get it seen

Did you read both the ops posts MintJulia?

You need to get it seen op.

I agree with this, though oddly to me your calves look the same size!

I know pain is subjective OP, but I would be surprised if you were in 8/10 pain and writing on mumsnet. 8/10 pain is childbirth and if sustained for any length of time without treatment puts the person at risk of suicide. Your leg also isn't twice the size of the other from what I can see, if you speak to 111 or are triage over the phone by out of hours you need to be honest and accurate . I work in ultrasound OP and would want to xray you with what you describe.

Are you being seen OP?

How are you today @abblie ? Hope you’ve got it seen.

Have you iced it?

It might just need rest but it's get it seen if you aren't weight bearing but today.

My friend was texting me in childbirth right up to the point they took her to theatre for forceps. Her dh ripped the phone off her. Even during heart attacks which I presume must hurt, people call 999 for themselves. They then quite often drop dead before the ambulance comes. So not nessarly a good indicator of impending death.

You clearly have never suffered from endometriosis / adenomyosis. I wouldn't want to be treated by you, but from the sounds of it you are just an opertaive and not medically trained.

OP, it is possible it is broken, but it is also possible that you have damaged the tendon (or even both - I managed to do that!). You need to get it properly assessed and diagnosed. A very bad sprain can last this long and be painful, but at this stage I would want to exclude all other possibilities as well, and it isn't over-reacting to want a diagnosis and not a guess.

I was vaping outside hospital with 9/10 pain and trying to play candy crush. Distraction was the only thing that helped, so it's reasonable that the OP is able to type
And before anyone says it wasn't 9/10 I was on every painkiller they could give me, asked them to cut my leg off and I had cauda equina

The thing with pain scores is we say 10/10 for the most pain you've ever been in. Not specifically childbirth.

All of my childbirths varied in pain.

Get it seen, could be a fracture.

You are also screwed if you have never given birth!

Yup. Off to Minor Injuries for you (if you have one). Even if it's not fractured soft tissue damage can need/benefit from support/attention/advice

10 = the worst pain you can imagine (is how I teach it)

Bit confused about why endometriosis has anything to do with this? I'm just being realistic in that most people in their lives never feel pain that is 9 or 10/10, and 8/10 is very close to the worst pain you can get. Most people who say they're in 8/10 pain are not. If that minor comment means you wouldn't want to be treated by me then so be it, you'd probably not want to be treated by most medical professionals if that was all it took!

But pain is subjective. If a patient is saying they're in 8/10 pain, you're meant to believe them
I was suicidal with the pain, and I've walked on a broken ankle for a week before
Haven't given birth but my friend has and said labour was nothing compared to CES

I do take your point when you say that Labour was nothing compared to CES, and I was more referring to the fact that if someone says 'it's worse than my labour, it's an 8/10' and is screaming and hyperventilating then it is more likely to be a sure 8/10. Nor articulated well by me. I'm really not trying to argue with or get anyone's back up. It's a rely interesting discussion. One that I have had with my colleagues including surgeons, GPs, nurses etc on many, many occasions. You're never, ever expected to believe someone just because that's what they tell you - if you don't believe it you don't believe it. You ARE supposed to treat them accordingly to what they tell you though, regardless of if you believe it is accurate or not. Medical professionals are just normal people and it's annoying (not referring to you) when we're expected to be lovely and fluffy all the time. Including on Internet forums.

Yeah I guess my point is, just because I was outside vaping doesn't mean it wasn't 8/10
I tend to go quiet and rock/pace so people don't always think I look in pain. Luckily triage spotted me and saw I looked grey

Your calves look roughly the same although just above the ankle on the left one looks thicker, slightly.

Are you wearing different socks or is the white thing a bandage?

You need to decide if this is a knee or ankle injury. Calves don't usually hurt.

If the leg is hot and red it could be a blood clot but no sign of that in your photo.

You said that no pain is as bad as childbirth. Which is, frankly, a rather stupid comment. But if you had experienced either of these conditions you would almost certainly know that they are frequently a 12 out of 10! And any medical professional would know that too!

I do not believe that any medical professional would actually argue about how much pain somebody is in. The pain they are in is the pain that they are in - and neither you nor ANYBODY has the right to tell someone in pain that they aren't in as much pain as they think. It's insulting and patronising and no, I wouldn't wish to be treated by any so called medical professional who thought they knew what I was experiencing better than I do myself. But fortunately the only ones like that that I mostly come across are on here - real medical professionals don't tell people they aren't in pain, or much pain, when they say they are.

Exactly, pain is what the patient says it is and medical bods would do well to remember that. Fortunately most of them do but there's an awful lot who don't.

Pain scales are so useless. I hate being asked that: "with 10 as the worst pain you can imagine, what is your pain?". I have a great imagination and I've watched a lot of medical dramas with the goriest, most gruesome accidents and illnesses, so I can imagine the huge levels of pain some of them must sustain. So I end up saying "oh a 2 or 3" or something. And then they don't think my fracture needs any painkillers or don't refer me back for treatment or whatever.

I'd get it checked out, OP, if you still can't walk, but you might have to wait a while for an x-ray. You might have fractured something without realising it.