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those whos lols as eczma please help

22 replies

trace2 · 11/01/2008 09:27

dd started a few weeks ago getting dry skin in patches shes 7 months, now theres loads been to gp a few times given her diffrent lotions but up to now none worded only made worse. its so bab with last lot it looked like we dipped her in hot bath she was screaming so i stopped using phoned gp her gave her betnovate to calm it down. please help with creams you used what worded and same wi washing powders i need to help dd .

up to now we have used
aquaeous
e45
olataum, now given her cetraben (not used yet) until tonight

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Avizandum · 11/01/2008 09:30

Aveeno - works well. Usually the last one they prescribe as its expensive. Also, running a bath but tying a bag of oats to the taps so that the water runs through is good. I have heard aloe vera is meant to be really good but I have not tried it yet as lo's seems not as bad as it was. Also, my dd is on soya formula (prescribed at 5 months) and this seems to have helped.

If its any consolation a lot of babies do grow out of it (thats what the doc says) I am hoping that he is right...

meep · 11/01/2008 09:32

lots of sympathy - my dd has had since around 12 weeks
We currently use Epaderm (huge tub on prescription) and Oilatum in the bath.
Aveeno cream is also good (works on my excema)
You could put some oats in a bag and let the bath tap run over them for your dd's bath.
Try not to bath her every day.
Moisturise as much as possible - aquaeous is good - no bubble bath/soap/shampoo
Have you changed your washing powder/fabric softener?

Twiglett · 11/01/2008 09:33

Aveeno is supposed to be great

with reference to washing powders you need to do an extra rinse to ensure all the powder is out

trace2 · 11/01/2008 09:36

we only been using oilatum for bath but those i mentioned she as had a bad reaction to them, and as for wasking i want to stop using my usual, but i am using new dryer sheets

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HereComeTheGirls · 11/01/2008 09:43

We use Epaderm 2-3 times a day, small amounts of hydrocortisone on very sore patches, and my DD wears tubifast garments on top which help the cream to soak in better. She used to need them during the day but just wears them at night now. We also found Dermol to be wonderful, as it is antiseptic - her eczema was made much worse by bacteria. You should ask your GP to refer you to a dermatologist for specialist advice.

HereComeTheGirls · 11/01/2008 09:43

We also use Boots sensitive skin washing powder and she only wears 100% cotton, she is very allergic to polyester which seems to be in everything, even sheets.

HereComeTheGirls · 11/01/2008 09:44

Sorry for all the posts - I wouldnt use anything extra in the drier at all. My DD used to look like she had been burnt and now you couldn't tell she has eczema at all, there is hope

trace2 · 11/01/2008 09:50

thank you all but did the first cream you tried worked with out reaction? sorry we having trouble getting one that dont cause a reaction!.

i have wondered if her tights make her worse? where can i get cotton tights from, found this moring she as more patchers on her chest now too theres more every day shes going to be covered by next week at this rate

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Avizandum · 11/01/2008 09:54

I would go back to the GP.. all the creams I used did not cause a reation, they merely did not help. Also, if she is screaming when you put her in the bath I would mention this. My dd enjoys her bath and does not seem too concerned by it. I dont know if other lo's get upset by a bath....???

trace2 · 11/01/2008 10:00

been to gp every day this week trying to get the creams sorted,she loves the bath but yes it hurts her even so.
he now says wi the new cream try today if same reaction stop phone him he will give her diffrent he now as seen the reaction and what it does to her

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MegBusset · 11/01/2008 10:01

Aqueous is not recommended for LOs with eczema (some GPs just prescribe as it's the cheapest), research has shown up to 50% of people with eczema are allergic to it.

E45 also not recommended as it contains lanolin which again can cause a bad reaction.

DS reacted badly to Aveeno too, so be warned that it's not for everyone. (Similarly oats in bath can cause a reaction.)

Dermatologists actually recommend bathing at least once a day in something like Oilatum (then moisturising straight after) as it replaces the moisture in the skin.

We use:
Oilatum in bath
Hydrocortisone on flare-ups
Doublebase as an emollient
Surcare to wash all clothing & bedding
Only 100% cotton clothing & bedding

HTH, you need to try various things to find out what works for her. If it's any consolation, DS was really bad at 7 months, now at 10mo it looks like it's settling down so we hope he's growing out of it.

trace2 · 11/01/2008 10:06

thank you so much, we have been using Oilatum in bath, but the cream gave her reaction could not under stand that?

do i change her diet to? as it seams since we been waening her!

and where do i get 100% COTTON CLOTHES FROM IS THERE A SITE/

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MegBusset · 11/01/2008 10:10

TBH most places like Next, Mothercare, Adams Kids have a good choice of 100% cotton clothing.

Can you get your GP to refer you to a dermatologist -- they will be more knowledgable. Our consultant said to try cutting out all dairy and egg for three weeks to see if it made a difference (this was when DS was 5mo so was just breastfed, I had to stop eating all these). It made no difference at the time. However, now he is older some food allergies are starting to become clear (cows' milk and lentils, so far!).

Twinkie1 · 11/01/2008 10:10

We use Aveeno lotion & bath oil - get it from doctor, it changed our son from a grumpy itchy thing to quite a nice child and we avoid eggs.

Use non bio too - we use fairy - DSs was bad from about 7 months but he clear now.

trace2 · 11/01/2008 10:15

just looked her night clothes and vests are 100% cotten so its tights now i think i needs to get dd is under lots od peads for diffrent things and she goes in hospital on monday so i think it will be quicker to ask them instead of her gp. even when we been going to gp this week he says he can treat her for this but wont coment on her other probs cos she under peads

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meep · 11/01/2008 10:34

MegB - re bathing every day and Aqueous! I have been told so many things by different people/doctos/health professionals! It's a minefield!

trace2 · 11/01/2008 10:35

Aqueous was the first we tried her with but gave her big reaction to

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JustPossum · 11/01/2008 11:03

DS has had eczema from birth and we went through all the creams that the GP prescribed, turns out that he is allergic to lanolin and petroleum based products. i was utterly desperate, he looked like he had burns on his body and he was constantly whimpering in pain, especially AFTER we had used Oiliatum in the bath. Blood on the sheets every morning, crusted horrible infections.

here's our regime which has utterly cleared the eczema, apart from flare ups when he's teething, which we calm down immediately.

No wool clothes
No polyester in clothes (ours included)
Surcare washing powder for the entire family's clothes and bedding - he snuggles up to us so our clothes need to be washed in the same stuff as his
No fabric conditioner
No aerosols,nor room freshner plug-in thingies,
I don't wear perfume

mop the floor just in Ecover washing up liquid & white vinegar solution in hot water - he is crawling so in contact with any cleaning chemicals you might put on the floor

No citrus fruit or tomatoes in his diet

The all-singing, all-dancing top fantastic fabulouso regime from Elena Schalberg (a former burns-unit nurse)
www.elenasnaturecollection.co.uk

It consists of a 'soap' to rub in on the affected areas before the bath
an oil to put on immediately after the bath (bathing is good once or even twice a day as it cleanses the bacteria which otherwise can cause infection in broken, weeping eczema skin)
a day cream
a night cream,
if required, the 'Eureka' cream for flare ups and stubborn patches

The creams are light, absorb easily and are non greasy. They also smell lovely and DS goes 'aargh' with satisfaction whenever I apply the day cream (every nappy change is the frequency you need).

It is all natural, plant- based oils and ingredients, you get get it on the NHS via your GP but you have to be persistent and beg. Within 48 hours my son looked like a different baby. Now he smiles, claps, jigs about to music, before he was quiet and withdrawn, I suspect because he was in so much discomfort

So, there is light at the end of the tunnel. It takes some changes to the entire household's regimes but it will get better if you persevere.

moljam · 11/01/2008 11:05

none of gp creams,lotions,potions worked on ds1 so we tried dream cream from lush after suggested by a friend-it works like magic!ds calls it his magic cream!but a friend tried it on his dd and it didnt work on her so i suppose different things for different people.

aDad · 11/01/2008 11:07

some pretty comprehensive answers!

Another cream to try is SOS from Barefoot Botanicals. Find it very moisturising. It is however pretty darn expensive at £10 for a small tube.

JustPossum · 11/01/2008 11:10

I would agree with MegBusset, GPs actually known relatively little about skin problems and tend to have a 'one solution fits all' prescription. I on purpose took DS to the GP the very morning of a hideous flare up (his eyes were almost squeezed shut by the swelling and itching on his face) and said, "this is why I need a referral to a dermatologist, this cannot go on ANY LONGER. I will not leave your office until i get an URGENT referral." I was polite but fierce.

The dermatologist listened to the list of stuff i'd tried, immediately suspected an allergy to lanolin/petroleum products and suggested the regime that works for DS now. Immediate prescription then and there. Halleluia!

JustPossum · 11/01/2008 11:15

oh, and this is extreme but we'd had a year of hell and my heart was breaking for DS, so we ripped up ALL the fitted carpets, sanded the floors and varnished them with ECOS varnish (no volatile fumes from ECOS products). Dust mites can be a trigger.
He has minimal cuddly toys for the same reason as they can be a harbopur of dustmites. You can also get special mattress protectors and pillow protectors which screen out a lot of the dust mite detritus (it's their faeces which is the trigger, yummm )

The only way to tell with foods (and only 20% of eczema cases have food as a trigger) is to be tested either by prick test or blood test. For some it's kiwi fruit or bananas, for someone else something obscure, there really is no way of telling for your individual child unless you carry out endless exclusion diets which can be exhausting and emotionally debilitating for you the cook, or, to be tested. I did more Polite But Fierce to get the allergy test referral.

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