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Most effective way to lose fat? (Especially lower tummy)

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nearlywed21 · 05/09/2021 23:09

Feel like I’m at a crossroads, having always been slim (but short so putting on weight shoes quickly), I have definitely gained weight through lockdown due to various life circumstances meaning I’m sedentary for longer periods of time (change of job from physically active to desk job etc). I dread to think what might happen if I keep going like this. I have on and off always been physically active, am able to squat/lift etc a fair bit for my frame. Under the lower tummy fat there is definitely muscle, I’ve done a lot of abdo exercises.

My exercise is mostly in the form of gym classes 2-3/week which absolutely raise my heart rate and get me sweaty. I have a healthy diet - lots of fruit and veg but also carbs. So I have in recent weeks cut the carbs right down, some days replaced entirely with salads. On weekends though and sometimes in the week will have carbs, an alcoholic drink, dessert etc. Basically I have a realistic / maintainable healthy lifestyle. I’m a size 10 (I don’t care about sizes or weight in numbers and in no way am saying size 10 is overweight for other people) just that for my frame it is, I have chunky thighs and look like I’m pregnant.

What am I actually supposed to do to lose weight?!

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Purpoole · 05/09/2021 23:12

Rather than focusing on the carbs, cut calories. You need to be in calorie deficit to lose weight.

ZednotZee · 05/09/2021 23:14

Carbs need to go for abdominal fat I'm afraid.

Especially if you aren't willing to feel ravenous half the time.

BadGuyDuh · 05/09/2021 23:16

It's crap isn't it. Those treats probably add on more calories than you think (i do similar) and the workouts take off less than you think.
Getting a fitbit helped - depressingly the best thing is to be fairly active, up and about, for a lot of the day, which is tough if you have a desk job, or just prefer sitting down etc.

It might be a slow journey but you can get there.

nearlywed21 · 05/09/2021 23:17

@Purpoole I’m trying to cut calories by cutting the carbs as I can’t imagine the fruit / veg / minimally dressed salads are causing the problem? The only thing I can think of is keeping up with the mega healthy diet at weekends too but I think I’d struggle to be this rigid. I don’t think it would be sustainable..

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IrishMamaMia · 05/09/2021 23:24

I'm a bit bigger than you, 12, but could write the same post really and have similarly cut down on carbs and increased exercise in the last few weeks but am having little success with weight loss yet. Its particularly my tummy weight that's difficult to budge and can make me look preggers.
I'm on medication that can increase appetite so also battling that complication.
Currently trying to make sure I get more rest, less stress and drink more water as have heard these can really help with tummy weight due to cortisol.
It's rubbish but hopefully the changes we're making will help in the long run

nearlywed21 · 05/09/2021 23:25

@ZednotZee the carbs had completely gone for a couple of weeks. As in totally gone. Just fruit, veg and protein. I was starving all the time. It just wasn’t sustainable especially with exercise. I also had a week of rebelling and eating completely normally so to compromise decided will do this healthy living in the week and as a treat allow a meal out / drink at the weekend. Nothing crazy or indulgent, by dessert I don’t mean a full of sticky toffee pudding etc I literally mean a few malteasers or a kitkat.

It’s extremely frustrating. I can see I’m getting stronger, can lift more/ do particular exercises eg hold a plank for longer etc. The numbers are not shifting (if anything is gaining weight, surely it can’t be due to just 1 ‘naughty’ week - I.e eating like everyone else such as a sandwich at lunch time or pasta for dinner, what I’d been doing for years). I appreciate muscle weighs more but I feel just as squishy. How much longer to even see a slight difference?!

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RedToothBrush · 05/09/2021 23:31

Portion sizes, calorie counting and moving more, more generally. No snacks. Minimum level of treats. Keep in mind that just one kitkat can tip you over your calorie intake for the day and make you put on wait. So just one chocolate bar can be the problem long term.

Be aware that the nonsense about women needing 2000 calories a day is nonsense for many women, particularly if they are short/petite.

No easy short cuts unfortunately.

ZednotZee · 05/09/2021 23:40

@nearlywed21

Add in fats.
Oily fish
Nuts
Olive oil/pesto/hummous/85% chocolate.

You will feel awful in the absence of fats, but fats burn fat

nearlywed21 · 05/09/2021 23:42

@RedToothBrush totally agree re:2000 calories and 1 chocolate bar a day.

I have 1 chocolate bar a week on average. But have a few bites thrown in - malteasers / reeses buttercups etc.

Today I’ve been good but right now I’m starving. Surely it’s possible to lose weight without feeling hungry all the time ☹️. I admire those who can fast, I have no idea how you do it…

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RedToothBrush · 05/09/2021 23:44

But have a few bites thrown in - malteasers / reeses buttercups etc.

Hos many is 'a few'. You may want to check up on that and count how many calories they total. It may surprise you.

ChasedByFox · 05/09/2021 23:56

I'm v short (5') and my maintenance calories are 1300 a day (because I run 15k a week).
I really have to fast to lose weight. (I am currently 8stone1lbs, and yes, I have chunky thighs and flab on my tummy (C-section apron does not help!) I have good strong muscles under that tummy, but it is a killer trying to shift that last bit of flab.
Gillian Michaels shred would probably sort it, but I have no time or access to a TV to do that, so I have to keep running, planking, and eating v little.
I'm 47, so probably a lot to do with my age.

ChasedByFox · 05/09/2021 23:58

I don't eat chocolate at all (because I started to have a reaction in my mouth to it Confused) or drink alcohol.

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2021 00:01

@ChasedByFox

I'm v short (5') and my maintenance calories are 1300 a day (because I run 15k a week). I really have to fast to lose weight. (I am currently 8stone1lbs, and yes, I have chunky thighs and flab on my tummy (C-section apron does not help!) I have good strong muscles under that tummy, but it is a killer trying to shift that last bit of flab. Gillian Michaels shred would probably sort it, but I have no time or access to a TV to do that, so I have to keep running, planking, and eating v little. I'm 47, so probably a lot to do with my age.
This.

This is my exact problem. Its frustrating but ultimately if your calorie ceiling is that low it has to be controlled by diet first because its simply not realistic to burn more huge amounts off through exercise, purely down to time constraints.

ChasedByFox · 06/09/2021 00:05

Yup! If I could spend 2-3 hours in the gym every day, I'm sure I could drop it in no time!
I've a v small frame too, so I don't even look thin until around 7st2 or so. Tbh, I'm not unhappy with my weight at all ATM, I just want to get rid of that flabby bit!

MissConductUS · 06/09/2021 00:14

Get an app like loseit or myfitnesspal. You need to actually weigh or measure portions to count calories, at least until your habits change. And you need to count everything, right down to the milk in your tea. The apps will also track your calories burned so that you really know if you're in a caloric deficit or not.

It's very easy to do, but currently you are under estimating your calorie intake and over estimating your calories burned. If this were not true you would be losing weight, and you're not.

PaddleBlue · 06/09/2021 00:26

Can I ask how old you are?

SoundBar · 06/09/2021 01:40

The salads need to contain a decent portion of protein and fats. Just veg on their own isn't going to fill you up!

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2021 02:01

@ChasedByFox

Yup! If I could spend 2-3 hours in the gym every day, I'm sure I could drop it in no time! I've a v small frame too, so I don't even look thin until around 7st2 or so. Tbh, I'm not unhappy with my weight at all ATM, I just want to get rid of that flabby bit!
Exactly the same for me. People dont understand how me piling on just a couple of pounds is much more problematic - i just don't have anywhere to carry that!
Susannahmoody · 06/09/2021 02:04

How tall are you and how old are you?

Aslo, have you had kids? Lower belly fat is ridiculous to lose

Susannahmoody · 06/09/2021 02:10

On weekends though and sometimes in the week will have carbs, an alcoholic drink, dessert etc. Basically I have a realistic / maintainable healthy lifestyle. I’m a size 10

^

This is is no way a reproach because I have the same problem, but if you want to lose weight/belly fat you basically have to eat like a Saint all the time. I'm talking 1400 cals of good protein, veg, good carbs I. E. Lentils, all the time. Like 95% of the time. No junk whatsoever.

So it'd look like :

Scrambled eggs for breakfast.
Baked sweet potato, tuna, salad for lunch.
Steak, roasted veg, maybe a bowl of lentil and veg soup to start with. Maybe a piece of fruit for 'pudding'.

Tons of water. Little to no alcohol, no milky coffees etc. No soda.

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2021 02:19

@MissConductUS

Get an app like loseit or myfitnesspal. You need to actually weigh or measure portions to count calories, at least until your habits change. And you need to count everything, right down to the milk in your tea. The apps will also track your calories burned so that you really know if you're in a caloric deficit or not.

It's very easy to do, but currently you are under estimating your calorie intake and over estimating your calories burned. If this were not true you would be losing weight, and you're not.

This.

Especially if you are small / petite.

Just one or two Reeses Buttercups... (87calories each) or a few Maltesers (11 calories each) add up if you don't pay strict attention.

if you want to lose weight/belly fat you basically have to eat like a Saint all the time

Unfortunately true.

nearlywed21 · 06/09/2021 07:52

Thanks everyone. I guess the truth is I’m not losing weight so obviously not in a calorie deficit.

I’m 30 and no kids. If you saw me, you’d probably think I’m slim. I’ve always been size 6-8 (5’2) and now 8-10 (8 top half, 10 bottom). It’s a struggle to get into jeans. The cube thighs don’t bother me as much as the lower belly squishy fat. My upper body is slim, no bingo wings etc.

I guess living like a saint it is. No more reeses or malteasers. Let’s go…

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RedToothBrush · 06/09/2021 08:22

I find that you have to feel a bit hungry at times to do it. Your hunger is your bodies way of maintaining your weight. Unfortunately you can also teach it you need too much food, if you've gained weight. The art of distraction is valuable. Or drinking another glass of water.

If you are petite i think this also gives you less room for treats. You really have to think about what you are eating and be honest with your self about it.

I think this is why a lot of people on diets do actually fail - because they aren't honest with themselves and aren't disciplined about it

Also do think about how covid may have created a change in lifestyle that you hadn't fully realised. For example ive noticed how not doing the school run over the summer has reduced my exercise far more than i realised and covid allowed me to develop a few bad habits.

Portion size. People really do think that bigger portions are 'normal'. Slowly cutting back is useful. A lot of people think that what they are eating is healthy but don't realise they are eating double size portions unwittingly. You can't get your head around this until you start adding it up and looking at quantity / calorie content. It can be an eye opener.

Also lifestyle changes have to be sustainable. Its no good ditching the reeses for a while to lose the weight and then starting it again. You have to be conscious of how they are problematic. By all means have one occasionally but be aware of how occasionally becomes a habit again.

Personally i find crisps and chocolate in the house the issue. If they are there its too easy just to go get one in a moment of weakness. If i have to have them in the house, ive found putting them upstairs and out of the kitchen is a good way not to automatically take one, but to enforce a moment where you have to make a conscious decision to have one and think about going upstairs. The effort of having to go out of your way to get one and having that break in behaviour pattern makes it easier to go 'do i really need/want one?'.

I've always done this previously and ive slack off during the past year or so and put on an extra stone. This is a lot for me so im now finding im fighting it which is hard. If you do want a treat build it into your calories for the day. Not because you deserve a reward because 'youve been good this week' - (again bad habit and psychology association). Have them because you have calories available to do so.

No easy fix i think is the issue and people aren't honest about it - especially with themselves. Once you have the knowledge and better habits you can stop being so religious about it because you just 'know it'.

Finally middle age spread due to hormones etc is less of a thing before age 65 than people realise. Its actually small unnoticed changes in lifestyle which creep in during middle age when we are comfy that are more to blame. Theres new research on this and its surprised a few. Also research that shows significant weight gain between 18 and 35 is an indicator of problems further down the line - again which owe more to lifestyle than other causes. Once you get past 35, it seems if you have had good habits up to that point you keep them going forward and have less weight issues.

Of course this is apparently controversial. Unfortunately.

Lovemusic33 · 06/09/2021 08:29

I’m similar to you OP but size 12, would love to be a size 10 but when I diet I think about food all the time. I find keeping busy helps, I exercise a lot but as soon as I stop I’m starving and crave carbs. I hate dieting so I just don’t buy chocolate, crisps and limit the carbs I buy, if it’s not in the house I won’t eat it. Obviously when I’m out it’s harder (cake is my down fall). I buy loads of fruit and veg, prep carrot, cucumber, celery sticks to snack on and keep a full fruit bowl.

nearlywed21 · 06/09/2021 21:46

Thank you everyone for the messages.

Today I had..
Breakfast: 20g oat cooked in semi skimmed milk.
Lunch: homemade salad (apple, cucumber, cherry tomatoes, red onion, spinach, beetroot) with pork loin steak.
Dinner: rest of the above salad with a few forkfuls of rice and a chicken thigh. 2x reeses mini buttercups (they are tiny, the size of a malteasers not the usual full size ones).

Also did a 1 hour pump class.

Stupidly stepped on the scales and I have somehow gained 2.5kg since yesterday. I don’t understand Confused

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