any calpol experts out there please?

[DelGirl]

ok, dd has been very very poorly for about a week. It has got to the stage where nurofen and calpol together barely keeps on top of the high temps (we have been to a & e twice)

I've been giving calpol 5ml every 3 hours. Is there any benefit doing this or am I better off or no worse off giving 10ml every 6 hours?

she's 2.7 bt. I just always felt that every 3 hours maybe better or am I kidding myself?

tia

"combined calpol, nurofen and antibiotics" for ear infection?
no thanks

sorry that WAS having a go but i was provoked by use of "stupid" from melons mum.

dd seems alot better this morming. I still suspect it may be a uti and we'll find out today. Only becuase she's not been herself for over 2 weeks. I don't know if bacterial infections can cure themselves over time, though she is on a low dose of ab's everyday anyway. I suppose before ab's came about, they must've done.

Thanks so much to convincing me to up her dose of calpol to 10ml every 6 instead of 5 every 3. I really think this has helped because she feels better when her temp is down she will drink more and eat and not be so fretful and I think that's had a big impact on her getting better. It will be interesting to see what happens next time as we all know there will be!!!!!!!! everything crossed that we have come out of this one...............

Glad she's improving Delgirl

No, not one of the 1500 Tovik. DS1 regressed following an natural infection (herpes), but he'd had a history of many ear infections all treated with abs (and the herpes was complicated by a bacterial infection which was given extra strong abs the same time as oral acyclovir). Anyway when we had the next 2 considered the family history (lots of autoimmune conditions, no autism) and what was known about regressions and decided best to avoid as much as possible really, so no antibs - unless absolutely necessary - no vaccinations - unless absolutely necessary, no gluten, limited cows milk etc.

DS3's 'biomedical' tests are identical to ds1's. They both have leaky guts, both 'typical' autism profiles.DS3 is developing normally (coming up to 3 now, chatting away, fine at nursery etc), ds1 is 8 years old, totally non verbal; will need lifelong care. I wish I'd done things differently for him (but am pleased we chose the path we did for ds2 and ds3).

There are quite a few on here who don't vaccinate, but in the main because of bad experiences the first time round, rather than lentil weaving

Glad your DD is feeling better Delgirl. UTI's can really drag on can't they. It is hard if she is feeling so ill that she won't drink because that is the one thing that will help her in the end and flush out the bugs.

Bacterial infections can cure themselves over time but in your DD case she would probably have to drink serious amounts of liquid. If she is allowed to drink squash have you tried her on lemon barley water which is the old fashioned way of treating UTI before cranberries became the thing to drink. Can she stand a bit of cranberry juice? It is quite a 'grown up' juice though so she might not like it.

Fingers crossed though that you have your answer today and she is on the road to recovery.

Hi yurt I'm so sorry to hear about your eldest. It's so damned unfair isn't it. I don't have a bad experiences but the stories of other mothers were enough for me. I have so much sympathy for those who "did the right thing" and were then basically cast aside.

thanks Niecie, it's funny how your mind goes blank and even the obvious things you can't remember. Will get a stash of stuff for next time.

Yes I always find it slightly odd when we're accused of being anti this that and the other. We were pro, we did it, with the best intentions and were stuing. Actually though tbh I've been (very) surprised how supprotive the orthodox medical profession has been of our decision to not vax ds2 and ds3. Really haven't had any hassle at all, and had a few 'I'd do the same in your situation'.

But presumably you didn't have a thoroughly distressed child Tovik, which is why you found Calpol unnecessary, hence I can't possibly be calling parents like you "stupid", can I?

Do you think many parents like giving DC lots of meds?
Triple dosing the Calpol-Nurofen-AntiBs happened with DD, she had antiB-resistant UTI, it can take a week to get the cultures back and get the right anti-B for whichever bacteria, hence why she was on Calpol-nurofen+AntiBs together. Untreated bad UTIs in little girls can mean needing a kidney transplant later, not a problem to take lightly. Plus UTIs lead to notoriously high temps; I couldn't expect DD to sleep in a cool bath. The slightly-wrong antiBs did help to control if not eradicate the problem; the alternatives would have been her screaming in desperate pain every time she had to wee -- we had 3 days of that before we got to see GP for first antiB prescrip, that was enough - I would have tried almost every med possible to relieve her distress. Without Nurofen she might well have proceeded to febrile convulsions (because Calpol alone just can't touch the pain or fever that UTIs can bring on).

For the ear infec we didn't have all 3 combined, but did have Calpol+Nurofen together, I shudder to think what would have happened without. I suspected DS had ear infec but doc couldn't see it (fair enough). Next 3 nights DS had extreme high fever and was in obvious agony; I could barely keep him comfy (still hot and unhappy) on Calpol+Nurofen. Then his eardrum burst and the fever disappeared. His ear oozed gunk for 6 days before I took him to GP to ask if maybe we should have antiBs after all, I hated asking for them but preschool+ doc+me all felt that 9 days was enough to see if it would sort itself.

Luckily that was a one-off. But if DS had a chronic pattern of getting painful bad ear infex, and I didn't feel I could take chances with his ears any more, I could easily imagine a scenario of double dosing the pain meds when starting an antiB course.

There are times when meds, including pain meds, have some real advantages in managing health. Don't be so anti-meds in principle for everyone else.

You have flown off the handle.

Of course I have had profoundly distressed children.

You do it your way. I'm sure you know best for your child. I'm sure I know best for mine.

And you didn't tell me anything I didn't know about ABs, cultures and UTIs and so forth. When you take a decision like mine you'd better know what you are doing and look into things first.

this is what we used although have a look at the other alternatives as well, there's more choice now. Inclusive technology are incredibly helpful.

whoops!

well it wasn't/isn't a uti so thats good news. Her temp is still a bit raised even with calpol but she is much brighter so i'm hoping we're coming to the end now. no-one has checked her ears though and she had an infection about a month ago but she doesn't seem to be bothered by her ears so.... Just must be a virus, one that i'm not yet used to as i've never seen her so ill.

hi my ds 2.6 just had gastric glu doctor said give 5 mils calpol then if kept down 20 mins later give another 5 mils,

then no water for an hour he said to get my son to suck on ice pops as they disolve slower and are less likely to make stomach reject

flu lol lasted 8 days