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Teenage girls with ASC / autism

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user1468882946 · 12/11/2020 09:32

I started a thread recently about my daughter struggling to make friends along with other bits and bobs.
Someone mentioned had we considered her having ASC? I looked online and was surprised to see how many traits she has.
We adopted her when she was 14 months.
Delightful, bright, articulate (spoke very young), loud and feisty! She is now 17.
All through school she has had trouble making and keeping friends. She never really knew how to be, was the annoying one when she was younger and fell out with girls a lot.
It seemed to change at secondary school initially but as time wore on she struggled again and then got bullied. She does say in hindsight she knows she didn’t help the situation.
So we changed her school in year 9. It was a good move, no one was horrible but she really struggled to fit in. And she became a very quiet girl, the previous school had knocked her confidence.
She was the year of no GCSEs and lockdown was awful. She had no one to talk to and was terrible to live with.

She decided to start again at a new school for sixth form. So far this has worked ok but the dream of waltzing in and getting friends yet again hasn’t happened. She felt confident in herself when she started and really laid it on. I think she put other girls off by being so confident, but it was all a bit of an act. She didn’t know how to be. A couple of months on and she gets on well with a couple of the boys but no girls. She finds boys a lot easier to talk to. She really doesn’t know how to act around her peers. She awkward and so aware of saying and doing the wrong thing.

Someone mentioned to me could she have ASC. When I googled it I could see definite traits.
•The awkwardness in social situations with her peers. She’s great in adult company.
•She gets a bee in her bonnet about something and goes on and on. Repetitive. Never shuts up. At the moment it’s food and tells me the same thing over and over. She’s into chocolate and eats loads instead of decent meals. She will tell us constantly that it’s about the calories and she wants the chocolate, and can’t have it if she eats big meals too. It’s draining. So we are just letting her get on with it.
•She gets aggressive and confrontational very easily. Especially when we are giving our opinion on something she’s raised, but doesn’t want to hear our responses. To be honest I rarely now start a conversation with her.
•She tells me regularly she really struggles to concentrate in class. It just doesn’t go in. She has to come home and basically re-learn the work. We will be very surprised if she sees A levels through to the end.
•She wants my approval for most of what she does. She has always been this way. Tells me everything, the good and the bad and everything in between. She says my opinion is so important but basically wants me to approve everything she says. Which obviously isn’t always possible. When I don’t agree or challenge her she can’t accept it and I am accused of making her panic or upsetting her.

We actually started a process with CAMHS over the summer and a lady there did question ADHD, but we never pursued it any further because she didn’t want us to.

But she is so responsible in so many other ways. Takes herself off to Westfield shopping on her own, has had a couple of little part time jobs and got her latest one when she was out, had her interview in the park! She went and bought a jacket and sat on her own under a tree for the interview! Got the job!
She’s generally well liked by teachers and her employers.

I have read that autism in girls is far harder to diagnose and often gets missed.
So what do we do now? I haven’t mentioned anything to her as there’s a good chance she will go beserk and be really angry and upset that we think she may be on the spectrum.
We have considered going straight to the school and talking to the senco leader, maybe they could watch her a bit and it could come from them, not us. Or we just leave it all as it is.
Really hard to know where to go from here.

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IdblowJonSnow · 12/11/2020 09:43

Oh op that sounds tough. Sp hard to see your DD suffer.
I think I would approach the sence and tell them everything you've said here. Explain that your DD would be furious and feel betrayed if it came from you.
I think doing nothing isn't an option.
There are so many threads about this atm, female autism is a huge issue due to it being under diagnosed.
I hope someone wiser will soon come along.

Wombletown · 13/01/2021 18:39

Hi @user1468882946 I know your thread is from November, but I wondered if you had got any further with your DD? I am similarly struggling with getting an idea of what ASD might look like in a teenage girl - my DD is 16 and shows many of the same behaviours that you detailed although she does hang on to friends but says that she 'masks' all the time and they don't know the real her.

The more I read about ASD in girls the more confusing it is to get an idea about whether this might fit - and whether it would be helpful to know one way or another is another question because I haven't been able to find out what resources or input would help if she was diagnosed.

In our case CAMHS have suggested assessment but I feel I have been quite negative about the possibility previously and now wonder whether I was wrong/uninformed.

user1468882946 · 13/01/2021 20:23

We haven’t got any further. She absolutely refused point blank to be tested. She was so insulted That they could possibly think she could have a problem. (The joy of the attitude of the teenage girl!)
So we left it there. I still think there is an underlying issue. She been happier lately as she’s been talking to more people but she is very impulsive. For instance talks to a boy once or twice then wants to meet up. Has no idea of taking it slowly. She wants it all done her way and expects others to think like her. Also takes very little advice then melts down when it goes wrong. But again that could just be being a teenager!
I don’t know. Maybe we’ll never know.

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giggly · 13/01/2021 23:51

I think it sounds more like attachment issues as opposed to ASD. Especially the breeze in to new school and expect friends. Many of the behaviours are similar and could easily be misdiagnosed.
Not sure what the rules are in England but in Scotland if she is over 16 and refuses to be seen not much you can do.
Are you familiar with attachment disorder OP? I would start there.

OneMoreForExtra · 14/01/2021 00:05

The fact that she is adopted stood out to me. Many many adopted young people struggle with social situations and relationships, the anxiety impeding learning in class is also very typical. This could go alongside ASD/ADHD or mimic it, and is likely linked to attachment issues as giggly said. If you're in the UK you have a right to an assessment of needs by your local adoption agency, and in England you could contact your Virtual School (part of local authority, responsible for adopted children's education). It sounds like your daughter would benefit very much from some support from an experienced adoption professional. If this is all too much phone the Adoption UK helpline as a place to start. Good luck to you and your DD.

Vivenne · 14/01/2021 00:16

She sounds like a younger me OP. I have wondered if I was autistic for a while now, well ever since my dp brought it up.

I went to a therapist a long time ago (when I was 15) and they just diagnosed me with anxiety.

But now I'm older and yes its harder in girls to diagnose, I definitely think I'm on the spectrum. I'm socially awkward, take things literally, take offense to comments easily(can't take a joke that's about me), hard to find friends, paranoid... the list goes on.

When my dp brought it up in conversation it was originally about my mum being autistic (she's never been diagnosed but has classic traits). But i thought it about myself. I dont exactly like having labels against me, I find it embarrassing. I find it embarrassing having anxiety.

It may be genetic... my daughter is showing signs off it too but it is very early stages for her so I can't quite be certain

user1468882946 · 14/01/2021 12:47

The relies here are so interesting. I had never considered attachment disorder, so along with the fact that birth mother had anxiety maybe this is more her than ASD.
I have never even heard of “virtual school”. I’ll google it.

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Zeldee · 11/10/2021 23:34

I also have a daughter who suffers from all you have said. She got overweight really quickly over covid. So much so I got her to see a doctor to see if she had thyroid problems. She is 17 so took a lot for a doctor to see her on my behalf. Doctors won’t speak to parents anymore with kids that age. She went on her own and the doctor asked if she was willing to be tested for autism. During the consultation the doctor said she had traits. Not looking into the eyes of someone talking to you. Wringing hands etc. since she told me I have noticed things I never did before. I have learnt that teenage girls hide things and now that she has been referred she is finally relaxing into herself. The constant movement which she hid before is now coming out. Leg shaking, ankles not being still, wringing hands. I just hope she can be seen soon

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