Help - 6 year old fainted an hour ago what do I do?

[shrooms]

This is really weird and really scary. My 6 yr old dd passed out almost an hour ago and is now in bed having come round but wanting to go to sleep. She is really really pale.
I am hoping that she'll just sleep it off but I am worried as it's so unlike her and fainting seems really weird for a little one.

They were playing in the living room when ds shouted for me to come in and she had just said she felt funny and collapsed. She even wet herself a bit .

What can I do? Will she just get over it? x

Thankyou for your support
Hubby just called to say that dd is still doing well and has had her I.V. and heart monitors taken off so they are expected to be out in a few hours once an appointment with their cardiologist is arranged.
Apparently she is nice and awake and chatty, having lots to drink and enjoying a banana

I think I will probably cuddle her and never want to let go when they get home... having the wrap in cotton wool urge even though I know she will be fine and is in good hands. And if, heaven forbid, it happens that badly again, I will know that I can just call an ambulance and they'll know what to do.

Poor Ds. I feel guilty for making go to school now. But I will pick him up in a bit and tell him the good news and give him a special card I made to say thanks for being so lovely yesterday!

Will keep you updated! If anyone knows about this keind of thing feel free to lecture me! x

Good
8 year old brothers rock. Hardly in the same league but dd chinned herself spectacularly a few months ago and we had to go to A & E to sitck her back together again. Her big brother was a complete star, keeping her cheerful and obviously very concerned about her. He didn't even whinge about missing Raven
Hope you get her home very soon and I think you are entitled to that long hug

Glad your DD is feeling better. I've only just seen this thread - my DD fainted once on the way home from school. It was very scary so I know how you felt - glad your DD was seen so quickly and her problem diagnosed. In my daughter's case I took her straight to the GP and he said it was just an infection that had caused her problem. She did, however, always tend to go pale and shaky if her blood sugar got low so I think that also contributed in her case - we were very careful after that to make sure she had regular snacks. Hope your DD gets home this evening. Well done your DS.

Hi Shrooms I work in paediatric cardiology
the abnormal rhythm that she has is a supraventricular tachycardia it is the most common abnormal rhythm in children
Sometimes it is a one off sometimes it can occur again and if it does it is usually something called wolff parkinson white syndrome. This is where your heart has an extra pathway in it that the electrical signal that makes the heart beat can go down. This makes the heart go into the abnormal rhythm. This can happen for a number of reasons exercise, caffeine or sometimes it just happens
Treatment usually involves drug therapy or they may do a small operation called an ablation to get rid of the extra pathway. It depends how much of a problem it is for her.
The cardiologist will do an ecg but without actually seeing a trace of the rhythm it may be hard to diagnose exactly what is going on. What the cardiologists I work with do if they don't see an ecg of the rhythm is to give you a letter for A+E that says if this child arrives put an ecg on straight away and get a printout of the trace. If they have an ecg printout they will be able to tell you what the abnormal rhythm is exactly and then they will be able to tailor the treatment to her. I have looked after loads of dcs with this and they do fine. You are seeing a cardiologist which is the most imporatnt thing
Hope this helps if you have any questions post and I wil keep an eye out. Glad she is feeling better now

shrooms - glad your DD is doing so much better. Sounds really scary. Your DS sounds like a complete star.

Isn't MN amazing - lots of support when you need it and usually there will be someone who has whatever the issue is and sometimes you even get a specialist view.

Shrooms - I have had SVT. The cardiologist found I had an extra pathway in my heart. I was operated on, and so far so good, I have not had another attack since (7mts)The operation wasnt particulary nice, but the attacks were worse!! Also the op doesnt hurt, although in an adult you are awake(not sure if thats the same for a child!)

Apparently it can happen to anyone and at anytime, mine suddenly flared up after 37 yrs and I was prone to having them about once every 6 wks.

I have no scarring as they went in at the groin upto the heart that way.

If you need to ask anymore feel free!

dcs are put to sleep the buggers would wriggle around too much otherwise glad you are all better now pb ablation tis a wonderful thing

Hi Shrooms

I started getting palpatations when I was about 12. At their worst, I was getting them almost every day. At first the gp said I was having panic attacks. I was eventually prescribed beta blockers when I was 28 which I was relutctant to take because they made me really tired.

Finally, I luckily had an episode while I was in the consultant's office! He was able to see exactly what happened, and do a heart trace then and there.

I was then given a 24 hour tape machine to wear so they could see what happened.

I then had an exploratory operation under local anaesthetic, where they put a wire up through my groin and up to my heart. They then triggered an episode to see what was happening.

Like pinkbubbles, I had an extra pathway in my heart. About 3 months later, they re-did the procedure and this time the burnt away the extra pathway using radio waves.

I went from having fairly debilitating epsiodes almost every day, to none at all.

I felt uncomfortable for about a week after the surgery, but then absolutely fine.

As andiem says, ablation is a wonderful thing. It's changed my life.

Andiem - Thanks so much for that expert advice Now that you have talked me through it, I do recognize the problem and must have briefly covered it at some point in my degree. And the doctor said it's usually not dangerous so she may never actually be that poorly again even if she does have a palpitation.
PB and LF - thanks for your experiences. It is great to know that you have both recovered and it has not affected your life!
DD and DH are back and both littlies are in bed having an early night - no wonder! Had my long hug with dd when they got back and she seemed pretty perky with lots of stickers and drawings from the ward .
Made her fave dinner also (nut burgers, mash and broccoli all with ketchup aplenty..hehe)
Ds has given her a big kiss bless his heart and apparently he got a big weldone from his class who were informed of the situation by his teacher. He will also be getting a special certificate for being caring and helpful in assembly (I was tipped off by teach - he doesn't know )

So for know we are all okay and will go on as per so that no one gets stressed about it. DD will have a few days off, and will be seeing cardio on Friday so nice and quick.

Thanks for the offers of advice - I may be taking you up on them! I'll probably be posting as soon as we get a bit more of a gameplan.

Take care and thanks again MNers! xxx

so glad she is home and well shrooms and your ds sounds like a real hero

How did it go on Friday Shrooms?

Hi, sorry - just saw this! Have also just posted ramblings as she has woken up to be sick tonight. After her first day back at school, poor thing.
Thanks for asking. The appt. was pretty okay, less scary than I had imagined. The Doctor said that he had copies of her ecg from the day she went to A+E and from studying them is sure that it was a case of supraventricular tachycardia. He said that she probably has had very minor episodes before that as we discussed her 'butterflies' feelings sometimes (which I thought were nothing but now it makes sense), and at the moment says it is early days, so won't treat it just yet as that episode could have been a one off freaky thing and never happen again (fingers crossed).

He said that we can just take her straight in if that happens again like we did, or call for ambulance at school, but is pretty sure that she'll be okay. She may have an echo to make sure that there are no serious structural problems there, but other than that just let things settle.

We'll keep an eye on things for now, and keep you posted for the echo. Thanks x

I'm glad he could reassure you. Make sure the school know that the consultant has told you this and that you're not just being a paranoid mother.

Lol. No, nothing I know of!