gum disease Laser treatment.?

[paulbrogden2007]

Hello every one how are you?

I need help sorry I am paul I am not sure if this forum is just for females but I am concerned about my teeth and things are scaring me.

For many years I have seen different dentists and told them my gums bleed alot and none have ever talked to me about how serious gum disease is. We are talking since 2001. I have seen maybe 10 people over 18 years. Any way I started to get paid in the front side tooth and the gum was sore. I kept getting puss coming out and I tried to arrange another appointment after last one was cancelled. Its been about 18 months since seen the dentist was putting it off was going to book an appointment but then covid 19 came along. So did see dentist and he said I have lost some bone and could loose some teeth after x rays this has got me scared as I do have financial problems. I have been looking at laser treatment to try and help but don't know much about it does it work seen testimonials from people on youtube but are these fake or real as any one can pay actors. How do people afford dentist work do they pay monthly or all at once as I can not afford it.? I am waking up with pain in my jaw and its not nice my left upper teeth feel numb I have an appointment on Wednesday with a dental hygienist. I must admit never have been shown how to brush my teeth properly I using to just brush side to side not up and down just started flossing never thought it works but it seems to be helping a little regarding the bleeding seems less than normal. Has any one got advise has any one got gum disease how do you manage it. Its been suggested I need see a hygienist every 3 months. Any advise would be a big help many thanks Paul.

Hi. Having had gum disease for many years, the 3 month hygienist has worked for me to keep on top of it. I also use Teepees (little brushes) dipped in Cordasyl (sp?) which helps. Flossing is good too. I don't think you can do it enough.

My March appointment was cancelled so I'm not sure what's going to happen to my poor old teeth now!

Apparently they use a laser 'thing' to clean teeth and gums now but I think the 'pick and shovel' way was better. I could be wrong about that though.

Every 6 months I have a deep clean where my gums are numbed which is a nuisance as you can't numb the whole mouth - something about your tongue going down your throat or the danger of.

As you can probably tell, I am gutted that I will probably have no teeth left having spent hundreds and hundreds over the years!

Keep flossing, electric toothbrush, little brushes, Cordasyl and someone mentioned Gingigel on here which I have bought and does seem to help with inflammation.

Good luck. It's horrible I know

to Guardsman18 thank you for your reply its nice to here from some one at this point I am close to panic it worry's me a lot. I am angry that all the dentists I have seen over the many years never said lets x ray your gums or scan them and see what is going on. Having bleeding gums for such a long time is not normal I thought it was but after watching some videos from Joseph R Nemeth DDS & Associates on youtube I feel the dentists were useless. According to him your gums should not bleed. I may consider the laser treatment in Leeds but the cost is probably £1500 and up. But Another post on another website said it was painful but the company says its not painful here is the website imiclinic.co.uk/

@Guardsman18

Hi. Having had gum disease for many years, the 3 month hygienist has worked for me to keep on top of it. I also use Teepees (little brushes) dipped in Cordasyl (sp?) which helps. Flossing is good too. I don't think you can do it enough.

My March appointment was cancelled so I'm not sure what's going to happen to my poor old teeth now!

Apparently they use a laser 'thing' to clean teeth and gums now but I think the 'pick and shovel' way was better. I could be wrong about that though.

Every 6 months I have a deep clean where my gums are numbed which is a nuisance as you can't numb the whole mouth - something about your tongue going down your throat or the danger of.

As you can probably tell, I am gutted that I will probably have no teeth left having spent hundreds and hundreds over the years!

Keep flossing, electric toothbrush, little brushes, Cordasyl and someone mentioned Gingigel on here which I have bought and does seem to help with inflammation.

Good luck. It's horrible I know

thanks for your kind words it was nice for you to take time to reply

I used to score high (5 & 6) when the dentist used to test my gums. I now have an electric toothbrush and my scores are 1-0. If you use a manual toothbrush switch to electric.

I can't recommend enough a water flosser they aren't cheap at about £50 but it has literally saved my teeth as it flushes all the gum pockets between your teeth.

@TheWitchwithNoName

I used to score high (5 & 6) when the dentist used to test my gums. I now have an electric toothbrush and my scores are 1-0. If you use a manual toothbrush switch to electric.

Not sure if that is true as a dr on youtube said a manual brush is better I thought gum disease was under the tooth not on it? I think if you spend 10 minutes with a manual its perhaps the same as 2 mins on electric . as for you going to a 1 from a 6 is that even possible. ? A video showed the issue is bacteria not sure how you can kill it all. But at this point I am so scared I willing try anything.

@Furball

I can't recommend enough a water flosser they aren't cheap at about £50 but it has literally saved my teeth as it flushes all the gum pockets between your teeth.

I am totally new to flossing dont even know how to floss a guide would be helpful. I might be doing it all wrong is blood on the string normal ? As for a water floss how would you compare?

Hi @paulbrogden2007

The string floss, cleans between the teeth

The water flosser, produces a fine stream of water, that flushes everything around the gums. pockets et al and you literally end up with a sink full of bits of your food, grim but if I didn't that just festers and then you end up with bacteria - You can use mouthwash in there as well.

I use curasept toothpaste and they do a mouth wash as well. Again not a cheap option, but unfortunately, these things aren't.

My teeth have literally been saved by my hygienist - I used to go every 3 months before covid (and now will see how I am every 6) and now I know my 'mouth normal' wo I can feel allsorts after eating, food just goes straight for my gums, so quite often I will use my flosser after a meal.

For me the water flosser gets into pockets and places a string floss couldn't. and also it's dead quick, takes 2 minutes max. so not a chore at all

@Furball

Hi *@paulbrogden2007*

The string floss, cleans between the teeth

The water flosser, produces a fine stream of water, that flushes everything around the gums. pockets et al and you literally end up with a sink full of bits of your food, grim but if I didn't that just festers and then you end up with bacteria - You can use mouthwash in there as well.

I use curasept toothpaste and they do a mouth wash as well. Again not a cheap option, but unfortunately, these things aren't.

My teeth have literally been saved by my hygienist - I used to go every 3 months before covid (and now will see how I am every 6) and now I know my 'mouth normal' wo I can feel allsorts after eating, food just goes straight for my gums, so quite often I will use my flosser after a meal.

For me the water flosser gets into pockets and places a string floss couldn't. and also it's dead quick, takes 2 minutes max. so not a chore at all

Thanks for the reply is their any advise you would give me ? at the moment I am brushing 3 times a day and flossing brushing in a circle motion. I will be seeing the hygienist in 2 days should I expect lots of pain?

How long have you lived with this? A doctor in america says it is contagious so is getting a girl friend a no no? what are your thoughts on laser treatment it is supposed to kill all the bugs but not sure how it kills bugs not near your teeth.

@Furball

I can't recommend enough a water flosser they aren't cheap at about £50 but it has literally saved my teeth as it flushes all the gum pockets between your teeth.

is their any water flosser you would recommend ?

@paulbrogden2007

Personally I would just hold off and take advice from your hygienist in a couple of days.

I've had crappy gums for a long while, but it was only brought to my attention about 6 years ago when I changed dentists and literally saved all my teeth and now I have only been dealt with by really kind, caring and information giving people.

I wouldn't say pain as such, just an uncomfortable feeling. and I can honestly say i really like going now and I don't feel a thing. My gums were just 'angry' and bled quite a bit (they don't now)

The flosser I have is a waterpik like this one - I'm not saying buy that one, or buy it from there, but just showing you what I use. Again you might be wise to hold off for a few days and speak to your hygienist and see what they advise.

Good luck though and keep us updated

@paulbrogden2007
How are you doing now with your teeth?
Did you see a hygienist?