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A Strategy to Limit deaths Caused by Covid19 Using Vitamin D Therapy.

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Bettertobehealthy · 01/10/2020 20:47

In a recent pilot study in a Spanish hospital (Castillo et al, 2020), Aug29th 2020 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7456194/

Covid patients were given 532 mcg of 25hydroxyD3 orally, followed by further doses at three day intervals. Two thirds of a total of 76 randomised patients were treated with VitaminD3 whilst one third of patients were in the placebo group of the trial.(i.e.26)were untreated . All 76 patients concurrently received best practice of other covid treatments. The results were as follows; only 2 percent of the 25hydroxyD3 treated patients needed to go into ICU Astonishingly, 50 per cent of the untreated by Vitamin D patients required treatment in ICU and, unfortunately 8% of those patients died. None of the treated patients died.

We can use this pilot study to propose a safe Vitamin D therapy, that would cost only about £2 to treat each person diagnosed as suffering from Covid 19. If it works, we can expect to save many, many lives as well as preventing the ICU units in our hospitals from becoming over-burdened.
At the very least , it would be worth trying on several thousand people, to either prove or disprove the effect Vitamin D has on the progression of Covid19 to serious illness. Currently, there are many hundreds of thousands of people taking Vitamin D, as a prophylactic against Covid.
By codifying this effort, with people that have been recently diagnosed with Covid, and tracking them, we can verify that the pilot study mentioned above was not simply a statistical fluke. There are hundreds of studies worldwide that have suggested that Vitamin D has beneficial effects. This proposal will take action, to verify that conclusion.

The procedure I suggest is as follows.

  1. Upon receipt of a positive Covid antigen test the name and contact details of the person is used in this suggested trial.
  2. 50 to 70 % of those positive adults , should be offered 10,000 IU ( 250 microgram) Vitamin D3 ( cholecalciferol ) to take orally on a daily basis for at least 14 days. Then to continue with 5,000 IU (125 mcg ) daily for 14 additional days.
  3. Track those that have and have not, taken the oral therapy. Perhaps weekly? Within 4 weeks we should know, if the treated group , have markedly different outcomes.
  4. At the end of 4 weeks, participants could drop to a daily maintenance dose of 400 – 4000 IU per day, which is a perfectly safe dose of this essential micro-nutrient. Many thousands of people are using that dose. By this time, each person will have recovered , or otherwise. 2000 – 4000 IU would be appropriate as a maintenance dose for most.

Some explanatory points.

This trial leads to a cumulative dose of vitamin D over 4 weeks of 210,000 IU; a commonly used loading dose. It has been so used over many years. It is part of standard medical procedure to administer this kind of dose for those found to be deficient in vitamin D. It is not an exceptional or unusual treatment and is perfectly safe for well adults. Children would be expected to use lower doses; dose requirements depends upon weight.

The aim of this therapy, I suggest , is to try to replicate the blood levels of 25hydroxyD3 which would have occurred in the pilot study mentioned above. Taken as a supplement, VitaminD3 ( cholecalciferol) is converted to 25hydroxyD3 ( calcidiol) at the rate of 50% every 24 hours, by an enzymatic reaction in the liver. Within 3 days blood levels of calcidiol will rise rapidly. In the pilot study above, Calcifediol ( i.e.calcidiol) was given orally to maximise the speed of take-up in the blood. Their patients had just arrived in hospital, they needed rapid blood level improvement..

In our trial, by utilising VitaminD3 supplement , the commonly available supplement found on supermarket and pharmacy shelves, as well as online, we have a resource immediately available, well-accepted, and more importantly, usable right now. This suggested strategy of therapy simply uses a higher dose than is commonly used. This dosing level is perfectly safe. Indeed , the 2011 report on Vitamin D issued by the Institute of Medicine , National Academy of Sciences, USA . states that 4000 IU is acceptable as a long term daily supplement and that up to 10,000 IU could be utilised.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3046611/

By using cholecalciferol ( VitD3 supplement) we have an additional advantage. Cholecalciferol as well as calcidiol, is used by our cells to activate genes within the nucleus when required. In a naturally sunny environment , cholecalciferol is manufactured in the skin by the action of sunlight and cholecalciferol is therefore always available to the cell whenever a receptor is expressed on its surface. However at our high latitude in the UK, sunlight is weak and UVB radiation is absorbed by the atmosphere during the winter period. Mid-October to Mid-April, sunshine cannot make Vitamin D3 in the skin. We rely on the small amounts found in food. Inevitably our levels decrease, unless we supplement. For this reason, Public Health England suggested that everyone in the UK take a VitD3 supplement over winter at a daily dose rate of 400 IU .They recognise that there is a problem. This suggested strategy I propose here, is simply a development of that recognition. We can use the actions of VitaminD3, on the human body, to fight against Covid. .

It would of course be possible to increase the complexity of this suggested trial. We could establish risk factors, the initial blood level of vitamin D etc. However, additional complexity will result in additional time. We urgently require results. I therefore suggest that we include quite a few thousand people in the trial. However we know that older people are more likely to be more severely affected. We could limit the participants to over 50s for example, if we wish to target the more at risk group.

This suggested trial, would only cost a few thousand pounds and can be done very quickly with the contact data of some of those tested positive. A few administrative personnel, a few desks and distribution of £2 worth of capsules to volunteers willing to try a well-established supplement that could save their lives. Results would start to emerge in a few weeks. Surely it would be well worth it. As stated above, the results in the pilot study were extremely good. i.e.25 times less likely to go into ICU if treated with vitamin D3. Only one person from 50 treated with calcidiol needed ICU , 13 people from the 26 untreated needed ICU

Of course, the standard method to establish whether a therapy is useful is a double- blinded, placebo-controlled, randomised trial. Those kind of trials are fine for drugs, but here we are talking about foods. Vitamin D3 is found in food ; it is a naturally occurring substance and is, in fact, a micro-nutrient. We should not worry too much about safety aspects in a month long trial, many millions of people are already supplementing themselves with this micro-nutrient.

In the body , VitD3 (cholecalciferol) is converted as required to a steroid hormone. It is used to regulate the expression of our genes . Over 2000 genes have vitamin D response elements. That is 10% of our entire genome. We can expect it to have a multitude of effects, one of which is on the immune system.

Those persons that might suffer from hypercalcaemia, should not be enrolled in the trial. That would include any known patients with hyperparathyroidism, sarcoidosis, granulomatosis and cancer or those with Williams syndrome. Hypercalcaemia is the only known toxic effect from overdose of Vitamin D3. Those with the conditions listed above might develop hypercalcaemia if treated with 10,000 IU of vitamin D3. They are very rare conditions. An average person sunbathing in strong sunlight can make 10,000 IU or more of vitamin D3 in their skin in an hour or less.
This suggested trial is simply the equivalent of a short sunbathing session every day for a month in terms of VitaminD3 repletion.

An additional point of interest to the reader may be the cost of VitaminD3 in supplements which is mostly manufactured from sheep's wool. The cost of manufacture is about £5 per gram. The common maximum daily dose over the long term would be about 0.1 milligram per person per day. That is 25 years supply of raw vitamin D manufactured for one person for a cost of only £5. It should not be beyond the scope of an efficient government to organise the safe dilution, packaging and distribution of such a cheap lifesaving nutrient to everyone. Bear in mind, Vitamin D3 is not patentable. Big pharmaceutical companies would not be very interested in establishing a supply chain. Currently, the cost of one years supply , online is about £10 – £20.

The Aug 2020 Spanish study I referenced above was not included in the SACN review of evidence published on 29th June 2020 by NICE.

Those that are currently supplementing with Vitamin D3, may need to consider their dose. Their blood level may already be partway towards the required level. They would probably not need the full 10,000 IU daily. However, those taking only a multi-vitamin will only be receiving 200 – 400 IU ( 5 – 10 mcg ) per day. An extra 10,000 IU (125mcg ) per day would be fine. Here I am talking about those adults that have just been diagnosed with Covid and would be considering going into the suggested trial, thus helping to replicate the pilot trial in Spain mentioned above.

I am hoping that someone with influence sees this, and proposes that action similar to this suggestion is taken. We urgently require something to be done. We here in the UK are in a high latitude country and we have a great deal of Vitamin D deficiency in our population. It is going to worsen all the way until next April, when the sun's higher elevation will once again allow us to make additional vitamin D3 in our skin.

I intend to try and interest people of influence in these facts and the opportunity that this represents for those people at risk. If any of you Mumsnet readers can pass this outline on, wherever you think it useful , please do so.

If anyone is interested, I set out much of the reasons behind this explanation of vitaminD in this older thread. It is a long read , but full of information.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/2841497-If-you-are-vitamin-D-deficient-what-have-you-been-prescribed

I have posted quite a bit about Vitamin D on Mumsnet. Search my user name (Bettertobehealthy) or just get back to me if you need any more information.

Best of luck to us all.
BTBH (B.Sc.)

PS. If you read this and consider this post useful and it has drifted way down in the thread, please consider bumping it up so that others may read it.

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VitreousHumour · 07/10/2020 19:45

Also, at one point I panicked and bought a load of 20,000 IU vit D - would this be dangerous to take or ... ? Maybe every other day.. or is that not how it works

Ronia · 07/10/2020 19:51

@BameChange123 I take the Wild Nutrition Bit D which is vegetarian - but not vegan.

www.wildnutrition.com/products/food-grown-vitamin-d?gclid=CjwKCAjwzvX7BRAeEiwAsXExo8XgrJ9WTuTf4X8mJu7-G7XuWVAS0XNTmp_pm2bIoMtAJ0G6punP3xoCkbMQAvD_BwE

Bettertobehealthy · 07/10/2020 20:21

@BestisWest

                   Sunlamps ..  with  some UVB output will make Vitamin D3 in the skin.       SAD lamps will not.  They do not emit wavelengths in the UVB spectrum,  290 -320 nanometres.  

                  My advice is NOT TO BURN .  A half MED( Minimal Erythemal Dose ) 2 or 3 times a week should build up vitamin D3.        Prof Holick of Boston medical centre has research showing that tanners tend to have higher blood vitamin D and higher bone density.

A MED dose , is that amount of radiation the causes a slight skin reddening the day after exposure. So a half MED will have no visible effects , but will make vitamin D3.
Have a look here at a thread where we discuss sunbeds and Vitamin D. I posted quite a bit there. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/2562136-Sunbeds-in-winter-for-Vit-D

IN ADDITION:

      You should know, that excess calcium in the blood , due to hyperparathyroidism etc, may cause depressed  Vitamin D levels in the blood. IF that is the case, then it is very advisable to get your blood calcium level checked.   IF  it exceeds 2.5 mmol/l  at any time or measurement ... then consider a parathyroid gland  may have an adenoma.  This might be a reason  why you find it difficult to raise Vitamin D levels. Any one or more of all 4 glands may be affected.

         Another reason , might be ,  lower absorption in the gut. IF you have any reason to suppose this might be the case ,  then you could switch your supplement to an oral spray , away from tablet or capsule.  This method will avoid the digestive system. The vitamin D goes directly into the blood. 

        How much daily Vitamin D are you on.?    An average person will raise their blood level by 25 nmol/l for every 1000 IU  ( 25 mcg) that they take as a daily , long term supplement. It takes about 60 to 90 days to stabilise your blood level, when you take a daily supplement.  IF you change your daily dose ,   then wait 60 - 90  days to  stabilise again.  

Magnesium is part of the mechanism of converting VitD3 (cholecalciferol) to  calcidiol, (25hydroxyD3)  the blood form of VitD measured by labs.   Could you be deficient in Magnesium ?  It can make a difference. 

  IF you are  under treatment for a medical condition,  then you should discuss any supplementation with your doctor. He will know ALL your circumstances.    Here I am trying to help with a few ideas of what MIGHT be going on. 

          I hope this was helpful. 

Best of luck,

BTBH.

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Bettertobehealthy · 07/10/2020 21:20

WELL WELL,

Donald trump has been treated with Vitamin D . In the news. What form, cholecalciferol, calcidiol ?, I don't know. HOWEVER ,
If the best medical team in the world considers it to be a valid therapy,
then the idea of a trial, to help figure out if it works, is certainly not outrageous. The trial I am proposing , really would add valuable information. With large numbers of newly infected people, now is the time to do it. !

@VitreousHumour . Zinc is certainly not a silly idea.! That is part of the cocktail of compounds that Donald Trump is on. Again, we do not know the exact molecule , but the best medical team in the world think it is useful. Even before Corona , we know that Zinc is deeply involved with the immune system. IF you are deficient, then it can help. Have a look here : Dr. Seheult about covid and zinc.

With regard to Vitamin D , your 20,000 IU doses are really a pharmacological dose. i.e a treatment for an illness or deficiency. To my mind, it is better to use daily doses of a physiological amount. Up to 10,000 IU per day. IF you have no reason to suppose you are very deficient , then 4000 IU per day should be ample. It is not a good idea to change doses , suddenly or often. Your body gets used to a regular constant dose. Have a look at the Mumsnet thread I mentioned at the bottom of my first post in this thread. It's a long read, but lots of useful information.

Best of luck.

BTBH

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BestIsWest · 07/10/2020 21:23

Thank you @Bettertobehealthy.
I had my vit d results back today and the reading was 66 - better than I expected. I’ve been taking the 3000iu spray for the last week but have upped that to 4000. I have discussed with my GP as my parathyroid hormone is elevated (calcium is well in normal range though, 2.3) and he suggested continuing supplements and retesting in 6 weeks.
I have previously had a parathyroid adenoma removed so always a bit worried about a second.

VitreousHumour · 07/10/2020 22:14

Thank you @Bettertobehealthy, v helpful and I will follow those links.

Bettertobehealthy · 08/10/2020 12:02

Here is a graphic representation of the hospitalised patient pilot study mentioned above. ie. 25 times less chance of going into ICU , if treated with activated VitaminD ( 25hydroxyD3). Of those treated none died. Of those untreated with 25hydroxyD3 , 50% needed ICU of those 8% died.
That is the reason we need to do this trial, I am suggesting. IF replicated, we can transform the outlook of this country, with regards to Covid admissions, scale of deaths, fear of the disease. We have the data available right now, from track and trace, it would be soooo simple to do an observational study, on those that are in early stages of Covid. That is, give a modest daily loading dose of VitD3 , to some recently positive individuals. By post, if need be. They remain at home isolating. We track their outcome by phone. i.e. Hospital or not, ICU or not. death or not, compared to the untreated.

Vitamin D3 , in the quantity envisaged, is safe for the overwhelming majority. When compared to a severe infection with Covid , the potential benefit is clear.

BTBH

A Strategy to Limit deaths Caused by Covid19 Using Vitamin D Therapy.
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Bettertobehealthy · 09/10/2020 17:24

Hi Again @BestIsWest ,
The fact that your calcium is at the correct level is very encouraging. You indicated that your test was carried out before you increased your supplement to 3000 IU . What was your daily dose before that, for the prior 90 days. That information would give you an idea as to your response to supplementation. If your parathyroid glands function normally, then a high PTH now MIGHT indicate that you are not absorbing sufficient calcium. Although the blood level of calcium is correct , it might be that the PTH is causing the bones to donate calcium , to maintain blood levels. Do you avoid dairy? sardines with bone in ? other good sources of calcium? When your calcidiol level exceeds 80 nmol/l then you should be able to regulate absorption of calcium to the correct amount., thus causing your PTH to drop to mid-range or even below. This assumes your supply of calcium is adequate, also that your digestive cells can respond to the instruction of the Vitamin D hormone calcitriol ( 1,25 dihydroxyD ) . This hormone is made by the kidney , under the instruction of the PTH level. IF the kidney cannot make enough VitD hormone , then you might not be able to absorb enough calcium. Is there any suggestion of kidney problems. ? Finally, digestion/bowel problems like Crohn's, Coeliacs or other might hinder your absorption of calcium.

   These are just pointers to possibilities.      The most likely , is that you had low vitamin D supplementation , insufficient to prompt sufficient calcium absorption. If after  a couple of months of  Vit D supplementation , with plenty of calcium in your diet and if your PTH level is still high ...  then   maybe  test  VitD hormone ( 1,25 dihydroxyD3) level and PTH at the same time. They vary rapidly.  The hormone test is not the same as a Vit D blood test  i.e. ( calcidiol ) 25hydroxyD. No doubt your own doctor will be taking action  ! 

I hope some of this is helpful, best of luck

BTBH.

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