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Experience of Chrons, coealiacs or bowel disease?

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Wonderingwhyme · 10/01/2020 13:04

Firstly apologies if any of those are spelt incorrectly. I just wanted to know if anyone has any knowledge or experience of any of those?

My 13 year old has been ill a year now. Poor care from a useless paediatrician (can’t be seen by anyone else as waiting lists too long) don’t want to drip feed but don’t want to make it too long but this is briefly the problem.

Started with awful diarrhoea. Then pain. Went on a while, very bloated. Stool sample all clear. Bloods clear other than low iron. Waited for paed. Then told it’s diet, followed 4 weeks off dairy, then 4 off wheat, then 4 off fructose. No change other than less pain on no wheat. Went back, did X-ray showed impaction, then found out he has a prolapse. Had movicol then failed op to repair prolapse

Left again by paed but chased the last stool sample done which was ocotober then showing calprotectin levels of 349, GP went back to paed demanding look into it.

With me so far? So he is booked in a few weeks to have small bowel mri plus OGD. I don’t trust the paed at all and don’t want him missing something and want him to take biopsies (still haven’t clarified this)

Symptoms are :

Constant mucous that comes out both with stools but on its own and he thinks he needs a poo but is just mucous. Very windy (both ends) gets pain but not as bad since the movicol. On the toilet up to 4 time’s a day. Tummy very distended, looks like a beer belly. Hasn’t lost any weight tho. Low iron (hasn’t been checked for ages) generally quite tired but ok. (He has SN so this isn’t helping). Still has the prolapse which bleeds. (Well I’m told it’s the prolapse bleeding as apposed to blood in the poo). He always has bruises but he is hyper mobile and quite clumsy and he doesn’t know where they come from. Not loads but he will always have generally one that looks quite bad on him. I don’t believe he has grown much at all in the last year or so (need to check with hospital as I only have this written done twice recently and they don’t write in his red book). Has been suffering reflux for the last 2 months and Gp has given gaviscon.

He had a breath test and that was negative. He was tested for that hylocampbactor or what ever it’s called and that was negative.

The calprotectin obv shows high inflammation and the only things that come up on google are the above mentioned. Blood for coeliacs came back negative but coeliacs society said that you can have false negatives and the GP agreed.

Any experience or any thoughts on what it could be and how these things are diagnosed and treated? I know no one can diagnose him on here but I’m very worried about getting no where and want to go armed when we go into hospital.

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PragmaticWench · 06/02/2020 13:09

My DD had just a slight sick feeling after breakfast before being diagnosed with coeliac, no other symptoms. I was lucky that our GP ordered a blood test after a few months on reflux medicines hadn't helped.

Obviously I'm hoping it's not that for your DS!

Wonderingwhyme · 06/02/2020 13:23

Wow is that it? Ds has been ill since January last year and we still are no where. I don’t ‘want’ him to have coeliacs of course, I just know there’s something and the paed isn’t remotely concerned but he doesn’t live with ds. This affects his every day.

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Wonderingwhyme · 06/02/2020 14:47

Sorry I didn’t mean that as it sounded, not ‘is that it’ what you complaining about type of thing, I meant wow she was that unwell with just that symptom.

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PragmaticWench · 07/02/2020 14:24

Yes, I thought it was school-itis for a while! Blush

Wonderingwhyme · 07/02/2020 14:59

Oh bless her! I’m just so confused with how he can have such high inflammation in his calprotectin levels yet there’s no signs of inflammation via the scopes. So much mucous comes out of him as well poor boy.

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BobbinThreadbare123 · 07/02/2020 15:13

Just one comment to reassure - I've got Crohn's-colitis and my calprotectin level have been in the thousands before, but only mild inflammation showed up when I had a colonscopy at the time.

Wonderingwhyme · 07/02/2020 16:01

Thanks for sharing I appreciate it. I’m just so confused and stressed about the situation. I just want to know what’s wrong with him so I can help him. I’m so scared the biopsies will be fine and I won’t have got anywhere for him Sad

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Wonderingwhyme · 27/02/2020 21:10

I’m hoping someone is out there... so biopsies came back clear. They are saying it’s IBS... they gave him four weeks of buscopan and discharged him!!!!!

What do I do? I hear what they are saying, no bowel disease etc but it has to be more than ibs... it’s so vague. And discharged him!!! He’s been though this 14 months to be told ibs?? Since when does ibs cause prolapse, and mucous to fall out of you. To make you so distended you look out of proportion??

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UpTheLaganInABubble · 27/02/2020 22:19

Was the breath test for SIBO? It's common with hypermobility so I would definitely want to make sure SIBO has been properly ruled out (I also think looking into a Hypermobility Disorder/EDS diagnosis might be helpful)

Wonderingwhyme · 28/02/2020 07:42

Yes he was tested for SIBO and breath test was fine....

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Wonderingwhyme · 02/03/2020 05:53

The buscopan is doing nothing.... any other thoughts?

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VivaLeBeaver · 02/03/2020 06:09

Ime all gastros are dicks.

My dd has coeliac disease, proper diagnosis following an endoscopy.

Strictly gluten free but has bloody diarrhoea and mucus, tummy pain. I suspect Crohns. She couldn’t tolerate a colonoscopy, had a panic attack and refused an mri so they’ve discharged her!

I asked about the pill camera and the gastro consultant says it won’t pick up Crohn’s as it takes pictures in the wrong part of the bowel! But I know someone in real life and now someone on this thread who have had it and had Crohn’s picked up!

Toomboom · 02/03/2020 06:17

@VivaLebeaver, how old is your daughter? If a child they get a general anesthetic for having scopes.
My son had a panic attack the first time he went for an MRI, but he was allowed back another time to go through it.
Diagnosed with crohns in his large bowel at 8, then had a pill cam at 13 which showed crohns now in his small bowel.
Scopes can't get to the small bowel which is why a pill cam is used. Your consultant doesn't know what he is talking about! I would push for a referral with a different consultant.

VivaLeBeaver · 02/03/2020 06:24

@toomboom she’s 18yo now, but was 17yo at time of investigations. They said they were treating her as an adult and no to GA.

VivaLeBeaver · 02/03/2020 06:25

How can a consultant with 13 years experience not know what he’s talking about? If I was that bad at my job and told patients things which are blatantly wrong/untrue I’d be sacked and struck off!

Wonderingwhyme · 02/03/2020 20:39

Can anyone help?

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bluebellstar · 16/11/2022 22:34

Hi I'm sorry to bump this up but I'm going through exactly the same with my DS 12 he has autism and getting the same issues youve posted about esp mucus. How are things now?? Did you get any more answers???
He's waiting on a paeds referral and stool sample and bloods (bloods last, if we can get some as he's very anxious)
Something is Def going on

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