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white spots on lips

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prefernot · 26/09/2004 20:49

Dd, almost 2, has been a bit run down and lethargic lately though has been getting over a cold and cough. Today I noticed a white spot / ulcer (?) on the crease at the corner of her mouth but didn't think any more of it until tonight when I was brushing her teeth and noticed they have spread over her top and bottom lips. They are quite small (except for the one in the corner which is bigger) and don't look red round the edges like ulcers. They're very white and slightly raised. She's got no fever but is off her food, seems to have a bit of diarrhea and as I said seems a bit lethargic, a bit clingy and very easily frustrated.

Any ideas?

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cab · 28/09/2004 22:54

Prefernot that sounds dreadful - hope your wee one is better soon. Just as well she's got a good mummy

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prefernot · 29/09/2004 17:50

Aw, thanks cab, I try my best .

goosey, how long did it last with your dd?

Dd seems thoroughly out of sorts and today has even refused to drink most things except water . She's had no food today, couldn't even tempt her to have water ...

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goosey · 29/09/2004 17:56

Bless her. My ds was very poorly for over a week and it took over two weeks in all from first symptoms to being able to eat properly again. You just feel so helpless don't you, but my ds bounced back as if nothing had happened and thankfully has never had any further episodes. Ice lollies may help to get some fluids into her but I wuldn't worry about the food.

Earlybird · 29/09/2004 20:29

prefernot - I am glad you followed your gut instinct and got dd seen by the doctor as quickly as you could. It's dreadful when they're ill, but now at least you know what the problem is and can treat it accordingly. Hope she feels better soon, and that you can manage some time for yourself to relax, sleep and not worry. Take care.

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prefernot · 29/09/2004 21:21

Thanks goosey, so maybe we'll see some improvement after next weekend. Did your ds have medication for it by the way? My GP gave me a prescription for some but she said it's very very strong and leaves the immune system very vulnerable so only to use it if she refuses to eat and drink at all, i.e. if things get worse.

Hey, earlybird, how are you? Dd is drinking (I meant to say earlier that I couldn't persuade her to have icecream, not water, as she's drinking quite well) and seems keen to have very cool milk so I'm keeping going with that. But it's been such hard work as she's bright and chatty but still doesn't understand a lot of things. She's hungry and tells me she is but as soon as she puts food in her mouth it hurts so much she spits it straight out. And she thinks it's the food that's hurt not her. So today she had some plain boiled potatoes and she kept picking up a bit and saying 'this one isn't sore', putting it her mouth, crying, spitting it out and saying 'this one's sore!' I can't wait til she's that bit older to be able to understand certain things better. She's a very poor little soul right now.

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Earlybird · 29/09/2004 21:31

prefernot - all fine here, just been a bit wild with selling my flat in the States. We complete tomorrow, so it's been madness arranging movers, insurance, utility/phones, etc from London. Think it's all done now though, thank goodness. Thanks for asking.

My heart goes out to your dd, the poor thing. Will she eat yoghurt? That's been our staple food when dd is refusing most everything else. Also I can sometimes get dd to drink lukewarm soup/broth through a straw. I think the straw keeps her interested as it's a novel way to eat! How long until your dd is supposed to be better?

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prefernot · 29/09/2004 21:52

Hi earlybird, that sounds busy.

Alas, dd's never eaten yoghurt, I've tried on and off for a year as I love the stuff. I'm a bit stuck really as all the things she likes eating are things that make her mouth very sore. Bananas seem to be ok but today she's even rejected them. So, thank goodness for milk!!

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welshmum · 30/09/2004 08:46

Just caught up with your dreadful week prefernot. You poor things. I really hope things pick up soon and lovely little Eva is back to her old self. Thinking of youx

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prefernot · 30/09/2004 14:03

Thanks Welshmum. She's in a real state today with it, definitely worse not better. Am thinking of trying the medication ...

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Earlybird · 30/09/2004 17:12

prefernot - so sorry to hear things are not yet improving. It's so hard when they're not well. Sending you and Eva positive thoughts.

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prefernot · 30/09/2004 20:57

Thanks earlybird, today's been dreadful. I've felt on the verge of tears myself most of the afternoon which has never happened to me before even when she's had horrible things like chest infections. She's just so fed up and there's nothing I can give her / do to ease her discomfort. I hope hope hope she's better tomorrow. .

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goosey · 30/09/2004 21:10

Hi prefernot,
So sorry she is suffering so badly. If you are at all worried about her fluid intake or temp. then take her back to the doc or call one out. They never mind for babies.
No I wasn't given any medicine for my ds as I was told it was viral and the anti-virals only work if taken very early on in the infection. The first doctor I saw with him said it was thrush lol, and when he got worse and worse I took him to the out of hours doctor at the local hospital one night who diagnosed the gingivastomatitis. I was advised to give calpol and nurofen alternately every two hours and just keep trying fluids. I remember him being up several times in the night with the pain and it was heartbreaking to feel so helpless. It tends to make their breath quite bad too and must taste horrible for them.
Hugs to you both.

Earlybird · 30/09/2004 22:33

prefernot - sounds absolutely dreadful. You both must be completely exhausted and drained. Is there anyone who can sit with her for a few hours to give you a bit of a break? I know that could be extra hard as children only want mum when they're unwell. But you might feel better able to cope if you get a brief change of scenery and some fresh air.

Might also be worth walking to the library to get some books, and to rent some videos. I do that for dd whenever she's poorly as it gives her something else (new) to focus on rather than feeling so miserable. Here's hoping that the 36 hours you were quoted was accurate, and that she'll be on the mend soon. Hope you both sleep well.

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prefernot · 01/10/2004 11:42

Thanks goosey and earlybird, I feel like I'm talking to a small farmyard there .

I've resisted giving the medication so far still. Dd's with dp today as I'm at work and I'm hoping they'll be ok, he's not quite as 'patient' with her when she's very demanding like this as I am and to be honest she just literally can't handle any kind of conflict at the moment, she dissolves into total hysterics at the drop of a hat which is not like her at all. I think she might, just might, be a little better this morning, I'll await my progress report from dp!

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goosey · 02/10/2004 21:07

Hi prefernot,
How is your dd today? I hope she is feeling a bit more comfortable.

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prefernot · 02/10/2004 21:23

Goosey, thanks for asking. I think she IS a bit better today. Her mood's been better and energy levels too. But she's still eating pitifully little. She's quite a slight child anyway and eats like a little bird when well so it's worrying to see her eat even less. We counted her ribs in the bath last night and her trousers are all falling down . But I do think she's turned a corner today.

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Earlybird · 02/10/2004 22:50

prefernot - glad dd seems better today. It must be a huge relief. Hopefully she'll be feeling well enough soon to respond to offers of food - and when that time comes, she'll probably be ravenous!

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prefernot · 03/10/2004 12:36

I hope so earlybird. Yesterday she ate nothing but did have 3 big drinks of milk. Today no breakfast and just 3 pieces of baby corn for lunch. She's downing milk and water though so I'm not desperately worried. She seems nervous about eating. Every time I offer her something she says 'no, mouth sore' even though I think it's substantially better. I think it's thrown her confidence in eating. Poor dd. She's tired today but definitely more her 'old self.'

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Earlybird · 09/10/2004 21:32

Hi prefernot - haven't seen you posting much recently....and I haven't posted much either for that matter. How is your dd? Hope/presume she's recovered now and things are getting back to normal?

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