Possible prolapse and frequent urination TMI alert

[savethecheerleader]

I think I have a prolapse of the bladder. I have an appointment for my doctor but not till the 5th september. I have had two big babies, the youngest is five in November and have a feeling of something 'down there' at the entrance of my fanjo. I can push it back in but it doesn't stay although its not hanging out eeewwww. Sorry it sounds horrid but I have no one in RL I can discuss this with. Any way apart from the heavy feeling, I also wee a lot. More than everyone I know including pregnant friends. That itself is more of a problem than the suspected prolapse in a way as I cant go more than a couple of hours max without going. It's embarrasing and a bit of a joke that I always need the loo. Has anyone else suffered from either prolapse or frequent urination and does anyone know if they are linked and if not why do I wee all the time? Its so tiring getting up in the night. Any help or advice greatly appreciated.

5th of September sucks! Can't you insist on being seen sooner?

Sorry to be of no constructive help, but it makes my piss boil when GPs offer appointments for "a year on Thursday" and you're supposed to be grateful. GRRR.

I could go earlier and see someone else but my very nice lady doc is on holiday and then booked up till then. I know she will want to have a good old root around so would feel slightly happier for her to do this rather than ageing bloke GP.

I would also try to get an earlier appointment. They may want to rule out diabetes if you're weeing a lot. Are you drinking more too?

I've had a tighten up op up the back wall of my fanjo, which was pretty slack and droopy after four big babies. It has really improved the area.

When you see her, ask for a referral for urge incontinence to a womens' services physio at your local hospital.
GPs and gynaes either want to stick cameras up tender places or prescribe irritable bladder (LOL, you should see the rest of me) medication IMO.
A physio will give you exercises to do, excellent advice about "calming" your bladder down, and be able to confirm if it is a prolapse.

Thanks for that info. I don't think its diabetes as I don't drink any more than anyone else I don't think. Spidermama, what were your symptoms? The idea of a fanjo op sounds worse than hideous.

It was pretty hideous. I had general slackness and something which bulged through the back wall of the vag. Not sure what. All out of sight and out of mind now though.

The op was horrible, recovery even worse, but I'm glad I did it on balance. I now take a smaller sized mooncup. < preen >

You were brave to go through with it although I guess if you get the results, it may be worth all the pain and suffering in the end. I really hope I don't need anything quite so drastic. It's so hard to tell whats normal after childbirth. I guess I could do with a fanjo line up to compare

Yes we're all pretty much in the dark as we don't tend to get the chance to compare fanjos in RL.

One thing which made me decide to go through with it was my mum telling me about her fanjo (nice!) post menopause. She said when it all dries up it gets a bit chafey and she had to stop wearing trousers.

That's something to look forward to then! I will have to see what the Doc says. I'm not one for self diagnosis but I know something is not quite as it should be. I have also been having problems with tampons staying in place and inserting them and beginning to wonder if all these things are linked now?

Could be. No-one warns us about this do they? My fanjo's unrecognisable. I guess that's one thing to be said for C-sections.

Quite true, Spidermama. I thought it was bad enough being stitched up to the eyeballs afterwards. I thought I would recover and all would be rosey down there after doing my pelvic floor exersises and I certainly didn't imagine having problems nearly five years on.

When I win the Lotto, first time I'm doing after the win is to find a decent plastic surgeon in the Denver area to put my fanjo right.

Then a consult with my pal's tit surgeon to sort out my boobs.

And a GYN for a vaginal ligation to make sure it all stays put once it's done.

I would be willing to bet the final penny I have to my name I've got a vaginal fistula from DD1's forceps birth.

I am beginning to wonder how common this is as no one really talks about it. It's the last thing you want to compare notes on (except maybe anything to do with bums). Thank god for mumsnet! At least other people understand and can share stories and advice. A vaginal fistula sounds nasty, expatinscotland. I have not heard of this.

Its possible that you've got a prolapse of the vaginal walls either at the front or back and also you may need a bladder hike up as it were called trans vaginal tape.

You will probably be referred for a uro dynamics appointment where they put a cathetar into your bladder and rectum and insert water to see how the bladder responds. Nice not but there we go.

yep i have a prolapse aswell, started when iw as pregnant with my 2nd child, i thought my cervix was falling out went the docs and the first one i seen refused to examine me coz i was newly pregnant, but i persisted and saw my normal gp, she examined me and confirmed prolpase, she said i may need surgery after the birth but tbh it dont really bother me, in fact it makes me tighter during sex, the only prob is and this is VERY TMI looka way now if squeamish lol, when i need to go for a number 2 sometimes it presses through and i can feel lumps in my fanjo which charmingly is poo im feeling lol, then once ive been the toilet the lumps go, the fanjo is a very weird and wonderful thing LOL.

My Mum had this and it was fixed by a rigorous course of physio. She is in france though, so the healthcare system is slightly different, but she was very glad to avoid surgery - worth asking about this.

You might like to have a look at this website www.wholewoman.com/index.php which gives lots of info on non surgical treatments.

The technical name for what you are describing is a cystocele, very common, I think I had it after my second birth but it seems to be improving over time or else I am in denial (fingers in ears, la la la)

Thanks everyone. Notsofarnow OMG . the things us girls have to go through. I do do pelvic floor but probably no where near as often as I should. I tend to forget until I see or hear someone mentioning them. I hope if I need treatment I can avoid surgery.

'It is estimated that more than half of all
women who have given birth experience some
level of prolapse.'
Interesting link MrsMalumbas.

An update. I managed to get an earlier appointment and saw doctor this morning. She confirmed I have 'quite bad prolapse of front wall/bladder and a milder version of uterus' I also have a uti. Have got antibiotics for that and a referal to gyne. She said I will need surgery

Hi - i'm 24 wks preg with 2nd bby and was diagnosed after my first with a level 1 cystocele. It took me 9 months of pestering my Dr, MW, physio & HV for me to actually be seen by the right person - even the Obs Physio said my cervix was low (not my cervix love)
I was just wondering if anyone has had subsequent pregnancies with a cystocele and had any practical advice they could share ?
it makes me feel sad, let down (literally) and vulnerable and i hate it - just trying to stay positive atm which is hard as sysmptoms which had all but cleared up have started to return :-(