Vit D with K2

[DontCallMeShitley]

Almost 2 years ago I was advised to buy some Vit D by a cardiologist so I bought DLux sprays. I haven't had a test recently but judging by how I feel and the lack of sunshine from being inside most of the year I need it.

Just got a new one which is D+K2 but it says use 3 times a day whereas previous ones were once a day.

It says 3000IU on the label. Do I really need to use 3x per day? Previous one was 500 x 1.

Hi Dontcallme
Unfortunately ....you may have misinterpreted the label. Carefully read,

It says 3 sprays per day , of 1000 IU per spray. In other words , that bottle will last 1 month (30 days.) for 90 sprays.

SO , If you take their recommended dose , i.e 3 sprays , it will total 3000 IU and include 75 micro gram of K2. (75ug) daily. Not 9000 IU

                   You have come across a common trick played by supplement vendors.   The headline number  on the front of the bottle ,   is only achieved when you take multiple doses., either of pills , capsules , sprays , or whatever.         You are more likely to click on their product , when you read the high number , and ASSUME it is one dose.  

Previously, perhaps, you likely had another version of their product. They currently sell 3000 IU Vit D3 only per puff, AND also a version with doses of 1000 IU VitD3 per puff both without K2

 Hope that clears it all up.  !

BTBH

Thank you .

I have only ever used the DLux and it said one spray a day which I used if I remembered.

I assumed it was as you said, 3 sprays = 3000 IU but was wondering if i really need that much. I have used the 1000 and recently a 500 (I seem to recall seeing 30 mentioned in the notes which is mg isn't it?)

Hi Again ,

                    Ah,     Now I see what you mean ,       You are asking if 3000  IU  is a reasonable daily dose.    

                    That is a really good question ,    the latest vitamin D research says that it is .     Many of the older guidelines say that it is higher than strictly necessary ,   when all you want to do is maintain a blood level of 50   or just above.    There is quite a controversy over that question. 

               For an adult ,  weighing about 75 kg,   there is not reason to suppose it is harmful,  indeed ,  you are likely to raise your blood level by  75   nmol/L  ,  ( above your long term prevailing average level , when you are without supplementation.)    IF  you have rare conditions such as hyperparathyroidism, sarcoidosis , granulomatosis or Williams syndrome, or carcinoma, then do not take Vitamin D without medical supervsion.

               IF  you are treating yourself,    then it makes good sense to check your current blood level,   with a Vit  D    test,   then decide  what blood level you want ,   then take supplementation to achieve that.    You will  ON AVERAGE ,  raise your blood level of vit D  by   25    nmol/L   for every 1000 IU   that you take as a long term , daily supplement dose.      That is an average person ,    you may not be average,   there is quite a variability  in response to supplementation.  

FOR that reason it is a really good idea to check your blood level about 3 months on a continuing daily dose. You level will then have stabilzed. It takes 60 to 90 days to stabilize.

 The controversy is really about which blood level is a good level to aim at.       The latest idea  is   around  100 nmol/L - 150 nmol/L  ,     older guidelines are  around 50   as a minimum,    but accepting that  50   is ok.    The latest vitamin D research points strongly to that figure being too low.     IF  you look at a lot of  NHS  guidelines  you will often see   50   to  200 ,   as within the acceptable range.    wheras ,   100 -150 ,  is what  vitamin D researchers think is likely to be the most applicable , for optimum health.       Outdoor workers  in strong sunshine ,  generally reach  120 - 140 .    Some however will go as high as 200.   That is why the NHS  considers that figure  acceptable as well,  in some places.   There is a great  variability  throughout the NHS , as to what will be recommended to you , whenever you ask a doctor, consultant  or other practitioner. 

        You can get a vit D test from your doctor ,  if he agrees  ( some  won't  )  or you can  get  tests here ,  by sending a sample of blood on blotting paper to this  NHS  lab. They will reply by email within a week.   <a class="break-all" href="https://www.vitamindtest.org.uk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.vitamindtest.org.uk/</a>                      IF    not doctor ordered they do charge  £29. 

            I have posted quite a bit here on Mumsnet about vitamin D ,    have a look at some of my posts for further information ,   or just get back to me if you need any additional information.  

Here are a couple of very long posts ,   but full of detail,  about vitamin D  and  how  people dosed themselves , why , what the their symptoms were , etc etc.  I posted quite a bit there. 

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/2841497-If-you-are-vitamin-D-deficient-what-have-you-been-prescribed

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/2421492-Vitimin-D-can-it-have-this-effect

    Best of luck 

BTBH

PS. 30 that you have seen in notes, might be 30 nmol/L i.e a blood level , often considered the borderline between deficient and insufficient.

       when you see  mg     that is milligram ,   or  might be microgram 

1000 IU is 25 microgram. 30 microgram would be 1200 IU.

Somewhat confusing I know. Remember, just 1 milligram would be 4000 IU .

A dose of 500 IU , won't do much , it would increase your blood level ON AVERAGE , by 12.5 nmol/L.

.

In addition :

You may see mcg. as an abbreviation for microgram.

                          Sometimes you may see  ug    as an abbreviationon for  microgram   where u   is the greek letter mu.

@Bettertobehealthy

Many thanks for this, have just realised you had replied .