Diphtheria, tetanus and measels

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LO is 4 months now. He has only received the BCG vaccine.

Would it be unreasonable for me to privately administer the above vaccines in low dosages? Diphtheria, tetanus and measels and once he's a little older MenACWY.

What do you think?

Please be kind.

What are your reasons for wanting to do that OP? I’m not sure vaccines are available in lower doses privately or otherwise to be honest, I think they administer the lowest dose necessary to work as standard.

@Lou573 I just believe the likelihood of contracting other diseases is very low and there are treatment options for those.

As for doing it privately, I have found a clinic in Central London who offers single and small combination vaccines that are not available on the NHS, aluminium and mercury free.

You haven’t given the Rotovirus vaccine? Wow

What’s your concern are standard vaccines?

There is no mercury in childhood vaccines in the U.K.

I think not giving the whooping cough vaccine is a risk, it is a horrible disease and definitely not unknown in the U.K.

@tenbob The Rotavirus is known to cause intussuspception... By 5, all children will have encountered the bug. Children infected in the UK and other developed countries rarely become seriously ill, so I don't see this as necessary.

@chemenger Nowadays, most cases are relatively mild with less than half developing the characteristic ‘whoop’.

One general practice study found that over a third of all children with a cough lasting over two weeks were suffering from whooping cough, despite nearly all being fully immunised.

Not this again. It might be a small risk that your child will get these diseases but it's a risk. Why take it?

Intussuspception is a very rare side effect of the (attenuated) vaccine, it is also one of the complications of disease from the wild virus.

What are the brand mes of the 'lower dose' jabs you wish your DC to have? Are (or have they ever been) they licensed for use in UK? If not, where are they in licensed use, and what is the clinic's logistic chain?

@GMtoBe As I said, treatment options would be available.

And I may choose to vaccinate against the rest, but just until he's a little older. I feel as though he's far too little for his immune system to fight them all at once.

I don't see this thread lasting long

@scaevola Yes, they are licensed to use in the UK. I don't intend to put their name out there, but with a little research online, you might be able to find them.

14 DC, too young to be immunised, died of whooping cough in the UK in 2012.

Immunisation, even if it has partially worn off, tends to mean that the disease is milder if contracted, which of course shows that your conclusion, that the wild virus has somehow become less dangerous, is not correct. Because it is expected to be milder in all people who have previously been immunise, and that shows nothing about the severity of the illness in the unimmnised. Where is still kills.

@NotSoThinLizzy Right. All I wanted was a little feedback. If there was something else that was extremely necessary. Seems like all anyone wants to do is debate.

Nonetheless, thank you all for your input.

@RancidOldHag Okay. I take this on board. I will add Pertussis on to his schedule.

Thank you for this.

Why in earth won't you post the name? It's not classified info, surely?

You are getting feedback. We think you are wrong.

@RancidOldHag No, it's not, but it's also not the point of this thread.

Treatment options would be available is a strange thing to say in my opinion. You have the choice to make the likelihood of your child contracting these diseases much lower but you think it's alright because there are treatment options available? I can't get my head around that.

@GMtoBe Yes. And lifetime immunity.

@chemenger Sure. How should I right the wrong? Get all vaccines?

But your child could get complications from these diseases and die. Treatments being available isn't a guarantee.

@GMtoBe I completely get where you're coming from, but one die from even a fever, which is a known side effect of most vaccines.

There’s a number of other vaccines that prevent against diseases he’s at risk from as a baby - meningitis B, meningitis C, Hib, polio, pneumococcal disease.

I don’t really understand why you wouldn’t want to give these well established, safe vaccines to protect your baby against fatal diseases.

It’s ironic that you think his immature immune system can’t cope with the vaccines - yet if he’s exposed to the actual diseases he’d be at a much higher risk of disease, disability and death due to the very same immature immune system....

Before the rotavirus vaccine was introduced around 12000 children a year in the U.K. were admitted to hospital with the disease. High price to pay for lifetime immunity.
Yes, I think you should get all the vaccinations. You have given no reasons for not doing so.
I can tell you that young people I know who contracted mumps at university, not realising that their parents had refused vaccinations, were very resentful.