8 week vaccinations

[Fiona83]

Hi I’m still undecided about vaccinations. Can anyone recommend good independent information I can research other than NHS guidelines. Also does anyone have any advice on spacing out vaccines or how to go about getting individual vaccines rather than lots in one dose? Thanks

Why are you unsure about it?

What are you undecided about? They offer protection from some horrible diseases. Spacing them out leaves your child at risk.

I just want to be able to make a totally informed decision. I know there can be risks from vaccinations too.

Not another vaccination one 🙄 would you rather your child got one of these diseases they protect against?

I also feel like it is a lot to give such a small baby at one time

My baby is fine.

Better than the illnesses. Trust me. I couldn't be vaccinated. I had measles and German measles and mumps. Fucking awful.

I do appreciate the advice and I totally understand opinions on both sides but really just wondering if anyone knows of independent information I can look at?

Think of mothers in other countries that would do anything to get their children vaccinations against diseases and here we are thinking we know better 🤔 honestly...

About what? What risks are you worried about? You will find mad tin foil hat anti vaccine rubbish and the NHS. Why is the NHS so desperate to spend money on vaccines if not to protect their patients?

What is this independent information? Have you ever had to give paracetamol to your baby? Did you look up ‘independent information’ on it? During labour if your doctor said ‘I am sorry your baby is in distress with foetal bradycardia we need to get him/her out now’ would you say ‘no no let me find some independent information on this.’ Why does vaccines make scientists and doctors out of everyone?
Is it because it is administered by needles? So if your baby was having the same thing in a spoon you wouldn’t feel so bad?
Or is it that these sound like diseases people don’t ever get?

If you want information Pub Med. Google Scholar. Look up peer reviewed research. There is plenty of stuff on vaccine trials.

Thanks

"if anyone knows of independent information I can look at?"

Agree with KoshkaMangsho

If you want to read the research, you need to go to one or more of the major databases for scientific papers. I am assuming here that you know how to perform a a good quality literature search for this field

World Health Organisation information on vaccine safety

Cases of Measles, Mumps and Rubella in England and Wales 1996 - 2016

Oxford University Vaccine Knowledge Project regarding whooping cough in the UK

Thanks @pastabest and yes thanks @scaevola

What exactly are you worried about? Scientific papers will be no use to you unless you have expertise in the area and can interpret them.

It's hard to look at PubMed for the first time if you're not an experienced searcher. You can also look at other countries' guidelines: new zealand for instance has a completely different model for paying for vaccine injury (which while rare, and obviously much rarer than injury due to the illnesses, does occur) and so a different set of interests for the health system. The US as well has a very different health system and more litigation. You can also look at the world health organisation's recommendations and the evidence they've used for those.

If you are looking at individual parental accounts for vaccine injury, perhaps also balance this with parental accounts of no vaccination. Roald Dahl's daughter died due to measles, for instance.

Good luck. Your GP has probably had these conversations before and will go through this with you. I am 100% behind vaccination but obviously it is also the job of healthcare to make you understand why certain things are recommended.

"do appreciate the advice and I totally understand opinions on both sides"

But if you did understand both sides you'd just be getting the vaccines. Every baby that isn't vaccinated is a danger to other babies... hope you don't live near me...

Go to your clinic and ask for the data sheets for each vaccine.
Just like with any prescription medication, there’s paperwork with the vaccines but most people never ask.
It’ll have a list of ingredients and side effects etc. Doesn’t hurt to ask but you might need to ask in advance so they can find the info for you.

Thanks @Mumlovestoast really helpful I'll do that

babyjabs.co.uk/

Hi OP! It's so good to be informed rather than blindly trusting science.
Look at the inserts. They are available online. Not the NHS website. You have to dig really deep but I'm in about hardcore, inserts. You can probably get them from your GP but mine refused to give them to me so I walked out. 🙄
I'd also ask other mums for their experience too.
But other wise google learntherisk everything should be available there. I'm far too tired with a newborn to post a link x

That learntherisk website is a joke , why would anyone take it seriously.i hope your not relying on it for information majorintovert.
Op stick to legit websites like the oxford vacccine project linked above.

How is it? Genuinely interested? I only had to look at the inserts for me to be put off and also having the mfthr gene mutation and my dcs having it as well. A vaccine won't go near us. I was vaccinated and honestly, I'm fucked up as was my brother who eventually killed himself because he couldn't cope with it. I asked my gp when I took my daughter for her 8 week check up. She refused to go through the side effects with me.
I'm still a little on the fence about them. Particularly the meningitis. Not 100% how i feel about it.
I've also watched vaxxed and read a few books on them, but curious why learn the risk is a joke?