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Given new stronger drugs for baby exzema. Any experience?

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Angeliz · 11/05/2007 10:57

Hi all.
Took ds to a concultant yesterday and I said that all that seemed to work for him was fucidin H when it got really bad. I explained that i'd like any advice info about alternatives (asked about fatty acids) as i obviously didn't want to have to keep resorting to antibiotic/steroid creams. Doc said he'd give me a stronger cream to use for a few days, then another steroid cream for the following week Ever feel like you are not being heard.
Anyway, as i have no clue to the ingredients and waht they are has anyone any experience of these creams

Strong one-Eumovate ointment
Next one- Hydrocortisone 1.0m/m

Are they both steroid?
He also gave me ointments and my ds's legs are wet exzema so shouldn't it have been cream?
The he gave me Hydromol to bathe and moisturise

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Angeliz · 11/05/2007 10:58

Also he wants to see me again in 4 months. Once you see a consultant are you then under obligation to keep visiting?

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belgo · 11/05/2007 11:00

I've used eumovate for my dd2, the doctor said it was one step down from a steroid, but it's still strong, and has to be used very sparingly. I used it once, and fortunately have been able to control my dd1 eczema ever since with baby nivea cream.

belgo · 11/05/2007 11:01

You're under no obligation to go back, but make sure you cancel any appointment rather then just not showing up.

Angeliz · 11/05/2007 11:01

Oh thanks. Baby nivea, that's one i've not tried. TBH, moiturisers seem to make behingd his knees worse. They go all wet and gooey and sticky!!

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clayre · 11/05/2007 11:04

how old is your ds? Hydrocortisone is steroid i used it for ds, it's the only thing that works, i also stopped giving him cows milk and started giving him goats milk instead and he's never needed the cream since changing the milk.

Angeliz · 11/05/2007 11:05

DS is 8 months and on cow and gate formula.

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clayre · 11/05/2007 11:07

to young to change milk ds was nearly 2 when we changed

luciemule · 11/05/2007 11:18

Oh my god - I can't believe he told you Eumovate is a step down from a steroid!!
I'm 29 and I'm sure I've posted with you Angeliz before but I have 4 creams of differing scales - all steroids - and I'msupposed to use them for flare ups and choose which is best for how serious the flare up is.
Hydrocortisone is the weakest steroid
Eumovate is a stronger steroid
Betnovate is stronger still
Dermovate is the strongest steroid you can be prescibed.
I personally use Fucibet (like Fucidin H) when the cracks look infected and it seems to work well, but I'd be very unsure about putting steroids regularly on my small infant without looking into a more regualr daily routine of moisturising (I know you have).
From my experience, the consultants always go down the steroid route.
I've been using steroids since my teens and my skin now looks like old ladies hands and wrinkled and thin. I think a baby's skin is better at absorbing chemicals too so would be hesitant using them long term on such a little one.
I'd try the goats milk thing but only change one thing at once or you won't know what's worked?

Angeliz · 11/05/2007 11:22

I agree.
the reason i went to consultant was that i wasn't happy using Fucidin H (and i only use that when he really needs it, btw is that an antibiotic cream too?). He didn't tell me Eumovate was a step down, he told me it was a stronger cream (another poster said it was a step down).
So are both the creams he gave me steroids?

Am SO confused about it all but wanted to go as natural as possible. Doctor just did the opposite!!

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luciemule · 11/05/2007 11:26

hydorcortisone and eumovate are both steroids (eumovate is stronger).
As long as you're moisturising his skin regularly, that's one good thing.
I'd say in such a small baby with wet eczema there is a reason/allergy for it.
Usually babies get very dry, rash like eczema but you don't many with such wet eczema on legs.
I read recently though that even Chinese herbal stuff contained steroids even though they claimed it was natural so I guess it's a guessing game to know what to choose and even natural stuff can cause allergies (I'm totally allergic to Aloe vera).
Have you tried a dead sea treatment? Salty sea water always helped me on holiday.
Also, fucibet is steroid and antiobiotic together, which I thought Fucidin is too but not entirely sure.

foxinsocks · 11/05/2007 11:27

fucidin has an antibiotic element - the H means it has hydrocortisone in it (I'm not a doctor or anything but we get these creams prescribed).

Eumovate isn't amazingly strong - you can actually get it over the counter now. I'll see if I can find a chart - there's one on line that shows the relative strengths of them all. 1% hydrocortisone is mild and the first line steroid cream normally prescribed (can be got over the counter too).

I think I'd be worrying less about the strength of the creams that finding one that sorts out the problem for ds. I think it appears as though the consultant is trying to knock it on the head with the eumovate, then try and kill off any remaining inflammation/soreness with the hydrocortisone and then hopefully, his skin would be in a position where it would be a bit better for a bit iyswim.

Angeliz · 11/05/2007 11:30

Yes that is what the consultant said. To get it under control and then be in a position to control it.
I just feel despair when i keep getting told to moiuturise and it really seems to make it flare up again!

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KerryMum · 11/05/2007 11:30

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foxinsocks · 11/05/2007 11:31

oh it must be awful angeliz - it's a never ending nightmare!

I've never used or heard of hydromol - I hope it does the trick poor boy!

belgo · 11/05/2007 11:31

luciemule - yes he told me it was less strong then a steroid.

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Angeliz · 11/05/2007 11:32

I asked about evening primrose and the Doctor just said "i wouldn't bother in a baby this young" (he's 8 months) and the nurse shook her head at me as if i was daft. Is it totally safe to put in his milk then. What dosage ect do you give?

(Don't worry i won't rush into it on your advice but i would look into it as an option)

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Angeliz · 11/05/2007 11:34

Yes it's awful His poor little legs!
They were so bad at one point i couldn't get them dry. Had to literally blow on them and apply cream immediately as it was like trying to put cream on a jelly!!

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foxinsocks · 11/05/2007 11:37

here's a list angeliz

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Angeliz · 11/05/2007 11:41

Thanks foxinsocks, have saved that to favourites as a reference for all my many creams

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Angeliz · 11/05/2007 11:42

No it's o.k i'll research it tonight if i get time. Thanks though

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foxinsocks · 11/05/2007 11:51

that's ok - I found it quite handy tbh because I had no idea about stuff like that!

Woooozle100 · 11/05/2007 11:56

We use hydrocortisone on dd from time to time - as and when necessary (mostly on scabby head) It does the job.

I got a nice range of emollient / skincare stuff for babies with exzema from a local health shop. Pricey but helped. Will look up what its called if you like

sarahlou1uk · 11/05/2007 22:51

Try this - it works for ds here

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