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How to cure anxiety? Help please!

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WhatsGoingOnEh · 27/03/2018 14:29

I'm 46. Since Christmas I've been having funny turns, where I start panicking about health symptoms and then get myself all worked up.

This morning I felt dizzy as I walked to work, like I was going to faint. I sat down, and just felt worse and worse. A lovely woman passing by ended up calling an ambulance as I honestly thought I was going to die! Tingly arm and face, heart pounding, couldn't talk, couldn't stand up... I thought it was a heart attack or a stroke.

Turns out it was just a full-blown panic attack with hyperventilating. All my checks were perfect. I also had a blood test last week and everything is fine. My iron is lowish but not fatal.

My GP has prescribed me talking therapy, and has given me Beta Blockers in case I get another attack.

But what else can I do? Is this perimenopause?? My job is quite stressful, I have 2 DC, and a house to look after, etc. But my DH is amazing and I really have NO REASON to be anxious. But I am, all the time.

Is there anything I can do? I will do the therapy but can I do anything else? I can't go on like this.

Have you ever had this but got through it?

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WhatsGoingOnEh · 05/04/2018 15:18

gave me some long gone motivation to do something I've been procrastinating doing for a week

Is it booking a GP appointment? 🤣 You know what we're like!

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swingofthings · 05/04/2018 18:28

I think my GP felt sorry for me! I did have it in February, he told me that it came back normal so decided there that all was fine except that when I got a print out of it, it pointed to two tiny shadows, that got me going again, googling like mad. It doesn't help that I find Medicine fascinating so love to learn about it (and must have passed it on as DD is about to go and study it!). I had to tell myself to stop being silly and that if both the radiographer and my GP were happy with the results, it was normal!

I agree that they do take things more seriously as you get older and also, I think they know that although we are going through that stage when health anxieties are common, we are not totally psychotic!

I'm glad your latest test was normal, it's amazing how wonderful we feel afterwards isn't it?

Yes, I'm on the Oestrogen patch and the Progesterone pills. I've started on 50mg, decided that it made me feel much worse so cut it to 25mg, then had a melt down as I felt worse than ever so decided to get rid of it all... that lasted 3 days and I'm now back on 50mg :) The Progesterone seemed quite nice at first as indeed, I slept better the first two nights but that love of it certainly didn't last and yep, I'm sure it is what made my heart rate go up quite a bit and is making me feel hyper and low at the same time. They do say that it really does get better and we just need to stick to it. That's all well but when you've been miserable for some time and you are absolutely desperate to be better, being told to wait another 3 months without even the full guarantee of success in the end does make you feel more depressed anyway! I think I've accepted that I have to stay on it for at least that long if only so that I don't have the GP telling me 'well you just didn't give it long enough so that's why it didn't work!

Wired is exactly how I feel. When I seat down, I often realise my shoulders are all tense, and I'm often playing with my hands. I also notice it at work if I get a bit too much into something and before I know it, I'm rambling and speaking so fast, no-one has a clue what I'm on about. I have to constantly prepare myself ahead of meetings to think twice before opening my mouth, it's exhausting!

Unfortunately for me, I had the wonderful idea that as I was getting quite stressed with my old job which I'd done for 15 years, now was the time to start a new position that is completely new! Why did they even think of recruiting me! It's one thing to get all excited and full of adrenaline pumping when you're in your 20s, but boy is it another experience in your late 40s! At the moment, I fantasize about a job I can go in and just wait to be told what to do and get on with it rather than being the leader of the team.

Panic attacks are absolutely horrendous, firstly because each time you are persuaded that you're dying and secondly because you feel so out of control. After it happens once, you think you know what it's all about and therefore be able to prevent further coming on, and then it happens and you feel like a helpless 5yo again!

Is it booking a GP appointment? 🤣 You know what we're like!
Ha ha, it was actually booking flights to my mother 70s birthday!

Have you had your hormones tested? Did it come up that you are perimenopausal? Mine actually came up that I was postmenopausal a year ago! If only!!

extinctspecies · 05/04/2018 18:40

Very interesting thread. I'm in a similar situation to you OP. I posted something similar on the Mental Health board a few days ago & only got 3 replies!

Severe anxiety attack linked to work stuff but not remotely rational....

WhatsGoingOnEh · 05/04/2018 19:16

I got a print out of it, it pointed to two tiny shadows, that got me going again, googling like mad

If it helps, I would have done exactly the same thing. Whenever someone tells me I'm fine, there's a tiny voice in my head whispering Daily-Mail type crap like, "Doctors miss things every day..."

being told to wait another 3 months without even the full guarantee of success in the end does make you feel more depressed anyway!

Yes!! Ugh, again - completely empathise. My iron/ferritin levels are low and the GP told me to take supplements but said they could take 3 months to improve. It feels like a lifetime. Although maybe this is one of those cases where our advanced age could be a benefit, as 3 months really will fly past for us.

now was the time to start a new position that is completely new! Why did they even think of recruiting me!

I started a brand-new job last year -- I have wondered if that's why I'm so particularly stressed. My boss seems to think I'm amazing, but I honestly think I SUCK at it, and I feel really old!

I fantasize about a job I can go in and just wait to be told what to do and get on with it

Yes... Like those lovely OAPs you get on supermarket check-outs, all cheerful and chatty, but who take 6 years to process 5 items. That's my destiny.

Panic attacks are absolutely horrendous, firstly because each time you are persuaded that you're dying and secondly because you feel so out of control.

I really thought I was dying. It's v embarrassing to remember now, but a nice woman had stopped to check I was OK, and I was soon begging her to call 999 as the weird tingling had spread from my arm to my face and I 100% thought I was having a stroke. I wouldn't even show her my face as I just KNEW it had dropped, and I didn't want to see her look of pitying terror... My face was fine.

Have you had your hormones tested? Did it come up that you are perimenopausal?

My FSH levels, last year, were absolutely normal. I know they could have changed by now, but the GP (that poor GP) said I def wasn't in the menopause. My mum is convinced that I am - she's blaming everything on that. Apparently her Mum had a terrible menopause, so I could well be following that path. Great!

I'd actually love HRT but I'm scared the increased oestrogen might make my fibroids grow even bigger.

Do keep updating me with how you feel; by the summer, you might well be a serene, smooth-skinned, deep-sleeping goddess who looks, feels and acts AMAZING!

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WhatsGoingOnEh · 05/04/2018 19:18

I've just reread that post and I've taken all your lovely comments and just turned every single one back to me! Sorry!! I promise I am interested! I just empathise with you on EVERYTHING.

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WhatsGoingOnEh · 05/04/2018 19:20

Very interesting thread. I'm in a similar situation to you OP. I posted something similar on the Mental Health board a few days ago & only got 3 replies!*

Oh no! I think the MH threads are quite quiet. Can you repost it here? There are loads of us here, feeling collectively crap! You are very welcome here!!!

Severe anxiety attack linked to work stuff but not remotely rational....

Oh, you poor thing! Work stuff does seem to be a trigger. Please repost your message and we can all cheer you up. I will probably bang on 100% about myself, but it might help to know you're not alone?

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Applejack70455 · 05/04/2018 21:04

Reading this brought back my own period of anxiety - started off with panic attacks on the tube when it was busy, then I started having them every time I went out to eat anywhere - it was the fear of having one which set me off.

Health anxiety meant I rinsed my health insurance - had chronic diarrhoea and ended up having a colonoscopy- nothing there and as soon as I had it the diarrhoea stopped! Also found a very small lump on my little girl's leg and convinced myself it was cancer.

I used to find wine helped, especially in the eating out part, but really unhealthy way of dealing with it.

It has got better in that I don't routinely have attacks anymore, looking back I think there was a definite trigger of a relationship breakdown and having to find somewhere to live at short notice etc. Health anxiety still raging though, probably worse when it comes to my daughter's health - she's my only and the thought of anything happening to her absolutely terrifies me so that's where it's rooted.

Was there anything in particular that may have triggered you OP? Or did it just come totally out of he blue?

WhatsGoingOnEh · 05/04/2018 21:50

Applejack - so funny you mentioned wine helped. Wine was the only way I could get food down in the past week. So weird.

Really sorry you had this too. The tube panic must've been awful - so visible. Nowhere to go. Awful!

How did you get past it in the end?

I can't think of a trigger. I've had big changes in the past 10 years - divorce, moving, remarriage - but recently it's the quietest it's been for ages! It started after Xmas when it was just DH and me at home, doing DIY. No idea why that would spark anything. I'll really ponder that.

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WhatsGoingOnEh · 05/04/2018 21:53

Health anxiety meant I rinsed my health insurance - had chronic diarrhoea and ended up having a colonoscopy- nothing there and as soon as I had it the diarrhoea stopped!

Isn't it incredible how our thoughts and fears can give us real physical symptoms?! I still can't get over that. We can manifest symptoms.

I can eat again now, since today's test, I can eat. But even last night I couldn't manage a bite. It's crazy.

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Coyoacan · 06/04/2018 01:14

Sorry, I haven't read the entire thread, but I just wanted to suggest you start taking vitamin B complex. Firstly, it won't do you any harm and secondly it is really good for your nerves.

Canwejustrelaxnow · 06/04/2018 07:35

Hi. I just wanted to join in. You are all me! I had my first panic attack a year ago. Major health anxiety. I feel my throat closing up and convince myself I'm having an anaphylactic shock. I think this is because I didn't know about anxiety at the time and how your throat can go tight. I'm not allergic to anything but now I think a cereal bar is going to kill me! Madness! It's no life.

I am exhausted from worrying and do wonder if mumsnet is not the best place to be sometimes as it gives legs to many fears.

I've tried CBT and found it useful in the past but my current counsellor doesn't seem to be guiding me enough. I'm spending a lot of time talking about my fears.

Anyway, is there always a trigger? Mine's awful since having kids. I think I think I need to be in perfect condition and not die and leave them. I did have a parent drop down dead so that's quite understandable I suppose.

Work is a frigging nightmare and I plan to leave in 3 months.

Sorry that was long!

swingofthings · 06/04/2018 07:40

WhatsGoingOnEh, we have a lot in common and I suspect that so do other posters who have similar experiences.

Like you, I've experienced separation, raising children on my own (parents abroad, ex incapable), company restructures and cuts, new jobs, having to bring the money in to keep a roof over my kids' head, meeting someone new, miscarriage, infertility, getting married, issues with the kids, issues with tenants...

I think people like us have gone through life in control of our lives. We are the women people look up to and say 'I don't know how you do it' and we look at this and think 'it's no big deal, I have no choice', and indeed, we manage brilliantly.... until our body and brain can't do it as it used to and because we don't listen, it sends us warnings, ie. panic attacks.

I had a few attacks and I don't even know that's what they were. They felt like seizures to me. My GP said they were panic attacks.

My periods started to go wonky after years of being regimented when I was 42. At the time, my fsh was also coming back normal. I think it did until one test decided that it was so high (90s!) that I hadn't just started it, I was completely on the over side!! In the end, this number doesn't mean much, the fact is that our body is changing, it can't cope as it used to, and it is letting us know one way or the other. It's all very well, but I still have to work FT, still have to bring in a good income, still have to support my kids, and be the peace maker in the household, like all of us I imagine.

We are so used to doing everything to satisfaction that we struggle not to put ourselves under the same pressure. I had three supervision sessions since my new job and my boss's words were 'relax, you are doing great, relax'. Yet I can't and it just takes just her saying a tiny remark and I'm convinced she thinks I'm not up to the job and she regrets her decision!

The big issue that comes into it too is sleep, that good old thing. I used to sleep like a baby, head on the pillow, read for 10 minutes, out until 7am waking up refresh and full of energy. Nowadays, sleep is someone I don't recognise. Sometimes they are nice, most of the time they tantalise me but either way, I have long forgotten what it is like to wake up refresh. Nowadays, I wake up so lightheaded, I need at least an hour before I can get going! In a stereotypical solution of the control freaks, I got myself a fitbit, and of course, I got my answer, as I suspect, my deep sleep is appalling, lucky to get 6%. My brain doesn't switch off at night any longer.

So that's that, learning to relax, easy to say, not so much to do because of being stuck in a vicious circle. I don't have the energy to do the things I would need to do and concentrate on to learn to relax so I can have more energy!

Still, I've discovered this week how much a long walk in nature, away from every day noises and bustle really helps. I used to run these routes, can't do it any longer and miss it, but walking and just listening to nature really seem to work wonders. It takes a good 15 minutes but I can feel my body relax and then my brain even switches off for a few seconds. With the nice days coming, I am going to trial going for a 10-15 mns walk just after work, and then again before bedtime and see if it helps. I walk to work and back some times, but it's the same for me because firstly the walk is on a busy road, and all i do is think of my day ahead. On the way back, I think of what I need to do in the evening and just want to rush home to collapse.

I've written an essay, sorry :( Would be so wonderful to hear from people who've made it to the other side (ideally without a huge overall of their lives!!)

WhatsGoingOnEh · 06/04/2018 09:13

@Coyoacan -/ thanks for your suggestion! Funnily enough I was taking massive doses of Vitamin B complex up until fairy recently.., I wonder if this might have started/escalated after I stopped them?

I will definitely start that again, thank you! As an added bonus, it made my hair SO HEALTHY that even my hairdresser was like, "wtf?!"

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swingofthings · 06/04/2018 12:02

Just to watch the 'other' syndrome of 'anxious mad woman in need of control' and that is 'I shall try absolutely everything that I can to cure my condition!

In the last two years, I've diagnosed myself with hyperthyroid (one blood result came back abnormal but not enough to justify treatment), Vit B12 deficiency (one result came back abnormal but GP is saying it's just one of those things), Anemia caused by the Vit B12 and before that Iron deficiency.

Oh and I'm quite sure I got bitten by a tick two years ago, so I also have Lyme disease! Now maybe it's lack of Vit D, and magnesium oh and let's not leave out Potassium :) :)

I got to the point where my brain hurts from constantly trying to see links between various treatment and whether I had a good or bad day and of course, nothing is obvious!

Funny though how there is one time I always seem to start feeling better and that's after I've been off work for a week at least :) :)

WhatsGoingOnEh · 06/04/2018 13:21

Lolol!

I'm back at work today and am finding it horrendously tedious. I keep getting distracted so now I think I have ADHD.

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swingofthings · 06/04/2018 15:16

I keep getting distracted so now I think I have ADHD.
Grin Grin

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