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please help!!!!

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happy1 · 24/07/2004 15:34

A couple of months ago I went back on the combined pill, about 8 weeks after having dd. In the first month I had a bit of spotting, which I had before when starting the pill. Its my pill free week from monday, and I have had a small amount of bleeding for a couple of days. However, I have been feeling like I want to be sick for a few days now, and my boobs really hurt, which isn't normal for me even when I'm due on, only when I was just pregnant with ds and dd. Could I be pregnant? Would the pill cause bleeding if I was? I haven't done a test and don't really want to because I might be reading to much into my symptoms. Can anyone help? Anyone got pregnant whilst on the pill?

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Katypie · 30/07/2004 10:28

I think that kind is okay to take during pregnancy

Katypie · 30/07/2004 10:31

Yes you don't need to worry about them "Can be administered during pregnancy; no particular risks are known"

Jimjams · 30/07/2004 14:37

antibiotics can mess up the working of the pill (always thought it was all of them- but maybve just some bands). That may be why you're pregnant.

COngratulations anyway. I got pregnant with third one a bit stupidly (I thought)- now 18 weeks. Felt very up and down about the whole thing to be begin with but much happier now. I'm sure you dh will be fine once he gets used to the idea.

mummytosteven · 30/07/2004 18:50

happycat 1 - I took ADs (cipramil)for a week before finding out I was pg with DS, then started Prozac at 30 weeks, and DS is absolutely fine. because SSRIs are so recent, the research has to rely on people's reports who have used them, rather than controlled trials, so the data is necessarily incomplete. Research findings on SSRIS tend to be pretty encouraging anyway as to them not having effects on the fetus, and the main effects people have experienced have been babies being a bit irritable/jittery for a few weeks after birth, and other temporary problems. So please don't worry about taking ADs just before finding out. Which one were you on?

I would also say talk to your GP about stopping the ADs, and about what to do if you feel depressed during PG. I also agree with jimjams that AFAIK the amoxycillin can make the pill less effectively, and it is very unfortunate that you weren't warned about this. Erytromycin type antibiotics are a lot less likely to affect the pill - but it is still possible.

BTW before finding out I was pg I drank, took antihistamines for hayfever, too ADs, and had a dental x-ray - for those of us with unplanned pgs, looking back and thinking OMG is I think a pretty usual experience!
Take care
X

mummytosteven · 30/07/2004 18:51

Just to add that any effects that have been found have been in relation to mums taking ADs throughout the PG, or through a long period in the PG, not just for a short period before finding out they were PG.

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happy1 · 03/08/2004 15:34

Thanks everyone. I told him, and he said he would support me whatever I decide to do, but I know he doesn't think we can cope with another baby. If I did have it, I would have 3 under 3! we can't really afford another baby either, I really don't know what to do. If I kept it it would probably tear us apart, but if I got rid of it I wouldn't be able to forgive myself, and I know I would blame dp.

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Blu · 03/08/2004 15:49

Oh Happy - I have been reading this. Good for your dp to react like that, anyway.

It sounds as if the two of you need to look after each other a bit while finding the right time to have a good long talk - with professional help, perhaps? Have you told him how you feel about your fears for what it would do to the two of you, either way? It's not just you two as a couple, a family - you do need to feel strong as a person if you're thinking of being a Mum to 3 tiny ones, so the more talking and support you can give each other the better.

Wishing you sympathy and strength over the next few days. XXX

mummytosteven · 03/08/2004 16:34

happy1 - what a tough decision you have to make. what sort of support would you have if you went ahead with the pg - could a family member/friend provide support? could you afford a cleaner/childminder 1 day a week? could you look into Homestart - they provide volunteers to help with things like shopping? would you be able to take advantage of the free nursery for over 3s provision, or would your oldest not qualify for this? best of luck to you, whatever you decide

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happy1 · 03/08/2004 20:26

We do have family nearby, and there is also a homestart office down the road, I had not thought of them. I really don't know what we are going to do, we need to sit down and discuss our options. I would love to keep the baby, but I find ds so hard to cope with at the moment, he's started being really agressive towards me, and just generally not doing what he's told, but then maybe he would have calmed down in 7 months time. I just don't know, I'm a little confused

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nutcracker · 03/08/2004 20:36

Hmm have just read this thread and wasn't sure if i should post or not as i don't want to confuse you more but ...

When Dd1 was 2.5 and Dd2 was 3mths I got pregnant unplanned. I really wanted to keep the baby, but we couldn't afford it, I was scared of having 3 kids so young and just generally felt I wouldn't cope. However it would of taken only one person to sit me down and tell me that It would all be fine, that yes i'd struggle but it would all work out in the end. Nobody did and i had a termination, which i have regretted so much since.

I am not trying to confuse you or sway you in any way, just thought it may help to know what others have done in your situation.

mummytosteven · 03/08/2004 20:41

happy1 - i have bumped a few threads to do with people's views on going from 2 to 3 kids - have a look in active conversations. the impression I get is that you don't really want a termination, but are scared of the practicalities of looking after 3 young children,as opposed to two, which I completely understand. I think with the right support, things could be more managable for you - and Mnetters can help you out with ideas as to how to get that support. keep talking to dh, and keep posting. I agree that you would probably find it helpful if you and dh could go to counselling, to help you think through the issues of having a third child.

edam · 03/08/2004 21:10

Hi Happy1. You are having a tough time. Would it help to stand back a bit, and think 'what do I want'. Ignoring all the practical stuff, just for a few moments, and worrying about what everyone else thinks/wants. What do you, really, really in your heart want?

We often seek 'permission' from other people before we can feel that our wants and desires are OK. If someone said 'of course, you can have this baby, it will work out' would that free you up to say 'yes, that's what I want'?
Or, if someone said 'this isn't the right time, you do have the choice to end this pregnancy, other women have done it and it will be fine', would that feel 'right' to you?

Both choices are there for you and both are equally valid. And you'll get lots of support here, whatever you decide. There are people on this site who have had to choose to end pregnancies and people who have chosen to go ahead in difficult circumstances. But when you make your choice, it has to be the one that is right for you, at this time and in this place.
Hope that makes some kind of sense.

mears · 03/08/2004 21:31

Happy1 - antibiotics, especially penicillins affect the efficieny of microgynon so if this pregnancy is anybody's fault it is your GP's.
Having said that, you are pregnant and will have to deal with the decision of what to do. Although it is a frightening prospect, there are many women who have had 3 children under the age of 3. I had 3 under the age of 4 and although hectiic, it was easier going fron 2 kids-3, than it was going from 1 child -2. When DS3 was born, DS2 was 15 months old. I found it to be a great age gap and they get on really well. You will cope and so will your DP. You are both in shock just now but I am sure as the time goes on you will come out of this initial panic. It is clear to me you do not want a termination and your DP has said he will support you whatever. Take him at his word. Remember as well that you are in a hormonal state and it is always difficult to think rationally at such times. Your DS will be entering the aggressive phase which won't help. He won't be like that every day but it will just seem hard at the moment. You will get used to dealing with him too.

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happy1 · 16/08/2004 15:45

Thank you everybody for your support and advice. The pregnancy test the doctor did to confirm the pregnancy has come back negative. I am now confused as to whether I am preggers or not. I still feel like I am pregnant, with all the symptoms. I don't think they could have been side effects of the pill as it has been 3 weeks since I stopped taking it, when I got my positive result at home. The doctor has said to me to go and see her in 6 weeks and 'see what my body is doing'. She didn't think a blood test is necessary. DP and I have discussed it and we were going to have a termination. If I am pregnant, 6 weeks is a long time to not get attached to something that is growing inside you. And it is also possible I could start showing by then and then the family would notice. Have I been worrying about nothing all this time? Or could the doctors test have been wrong?

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happy1 · 16/08/2004 16:07

BUMP

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Blu · 16/08/2004 16:14

happy - oh my goodness! It must be difficult to be confused! I think it is a bit hard hearted for the doctor to say 6 weeks - can't you go back sooner - or do another test of your own? Or go to a clinic?

Don't forget contraception in the meantime!

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happy1 · 16/08/2004 16:19

I think I might go and see one of the other drs, I am quite angry with my dr, 6 weeks is a long time to wait. I would do another home test but they are so expensive.

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MummyToSteven · 16/08/2004 16:25

Happy1 - I agree that 6 weeks is too long time to wait, particularly if you are considering termination of a pg. What sort of test did your doctor do? And did you have to wait for a result? I do not believe that urine pregnancy tests that you buy for a chemist are different from the ones that GPs use. Home and Bargain, and other discount shops have been known to do really cheap tests. I still think it would be worthwhile doing a test. I feel that a combination of a positive pg test and history of bleeding should be investigated further, to exclude m/c or ectopic pg, and that you should ideally have a scan. I agree that you should see another Dr, or alternatively could you contact your hospital midwifes/Early Pregnancy Unit?

vict17 · 16/08/2004 16:25

You can get cheaper home tests on the internet but I can't remember where - you could do a search on google. I think your peace of mind might be more important than the money!

MummyToSteven · 16/08/2004 16:45

link to cheap site for pg tests;-

www.medisave.co.uk/default.php/cPath/287_288

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happy1 · 16/08/2004 16:55

The doctor did a urine test, that i had to wait a week for to get the result. I am definitely going back to see another dr, because even if I'm noe pregnant something isn't right for me to be getting all these symptoms, and while I know worrying can put off a period I always get my period every 24-27 days, and it's been 10 weeks since my last withdrawal bleed on the pill. I think I will also do another home test, as it's 2 weeks til I can get an appointment.

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MummyToSteven · 16/08/2004 16:58

that's dreadful happy1, and I think its appalling that you had to wait a week to get a urine test result. When I did a test at the doctors last year, I got the result in minutes. Could you drop in at a local family planning clinic and get a test done there?

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happy1 · 16/08/2004 17:01

there is one locally, but I'm not sure where, they'll be in the phone book or yellow pages though won't they? I really don't like our doctors, but the nearest one apart from that is 45 minutes away.

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MummyToSteven · 16/08/2004 17:06

i would imagine so. you're not in Liverpool or Oxford are you - just I know where the FPCS are there!

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happy1 · 16/08/2004 17:07

No, I'm near Swansea!

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