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Extremely worried - lumps/bumps inside fanjo *warning* very graphic info

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MuckyAnthea · 18/04/2007 04:27

Ok, when I insert my finger into my fanjo, to the right of the entrance I feel a mass of bumps, which also head up towards my cervix. There don't seem to be that many to the left side of the fanjo. I first discovered them while inserting a tampon a couple of months ago, I went onto the internet as you do, and found all sorts of info that scared the life out of me. I went to the docs, had a smear and found out I was HPV + and have had a colposcopy and am due to have a loop/leep procedure tomorrow to get rid of the abnormal cells on my cervix. Whilst I was having the colposcopy done last month, I told the doc about the lumps and bumps, he looked at them [I thought they were genetic warts from the HPV] and he said they were not warts, but skin tags and something to do with a gland. But I just cannot accept this, and am worried sick its something more. I will ask him to check them again tomorrow when I see him for his second opinion, as something just does not feel right down there. It feels kind of aggrevated or something, and sometimes I feel like I have thrush symptons. This morning when I checked the bumps again, I found some white/lumpy stuff on my finger.

I am so sorry this has to be so graphic, but I cannot explain it any other way. I guess the best thing I can do is ask my docs medical opinion again tomorrow. But what I am wondering is if anyone else has these bumps/lumps at all? Is it normal, or am I weird? I am absolutley sure I never used to have them, otherwise why would I have been shocked to have discovered them in the first place? I have never had children and am 34 next month. Please don't take the mickey - I am really concerned.

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suzywong · 18/04/2007 05:29

Whoooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaa there

chill a bit, your doc is on the case and if you hadn't gone online and googled :fanjo bumps" you would not be in the state you are. And as for what you found on my finger, we all know there's allsorts of stuff on the lining of a fanjo at any given moment, so don't sweat about that.

Glad you're getting teh HPV+ stuff sorted out

Are you still in China?

MuckyAnthea · 18/04/2007 05:35

Thanks Suzy,
Sorry if I sound all dramatic.
Yes I am still in China, which I guess is why I am so worried about this and the diagnosis re - skin tags.

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suzywong · 18/04/2007 05:39

well what do you think they might be?

Do you get the feeling you are being swept under the carpet and it is really more serious? I 'm guessing you're on your employer's medical insurance so you're not in some village snorting ground seahorses. What precisely is the worry?

MuckyAnthea · 18/04/2007 05:43

No medical insurance = paying an absolute fortune to be treated. I just don't know if I am getting the correct treatment. I am being seen by an American organisation, they seem thorough, but kind of look at me as though I am stupid when I ask questions. I have no idea what the lumps could be, but all I know is they never used to be there.

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suzywong · 18/04/2007 05:46

Ah.
well if they aren't ringing alarm bells with the American Medics who have identified HPV+ then that can't be a bad thing

I wish I could say something more to reassure you. Sorry. Maybe ground seahorse could be your next option

Don't worry, just be sure you go back if you notice any changes in feeling or size or anything like that.

MuckyAnthea · 18/04/2007 05:51

Thats what I want to think - if they say they are not a problem, then I should just accept it. But they are aggrevating me, and feel itchy, but not in an itchy way like I want to scratch them. Sorry TMI I know....

Now ....
Where is that ground sea horse powder - and more importantly does it work?!!!!!!

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suzywong · 18/04/2007 06:30

well since it would appear we alone, muckyanthea, I will share with you that I was convinced I had some thing wrong my my fanjo and got all sorts of sharp pains and twitches and spasms and not even a visit to the doc would sort me out. Then when I got my head clear it went away. I'm not saying your head isn't clear, but that it is common to focus on one's fanjo, doctor's opinion notwithstanding

MuckyAnthea · 18/04/2007 08:35

Thanks Suzy - it probably is in my head, I am probably making it worse for myself by imagining all sorts. But seriously something is not right. I just went mad cleaning my flat to make my mind off things, and when I bend down I feel this lump, its at the entrance, you feel it when using tampons, again - TMI.

I am going to have to be really forthright and grown up tomorrow and insist they check the lumps properly. Glad your problem was not one after all.

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MuckyAnthea · 18/04/2007 08:53

Shamelessly bumping this up, please - can anyone tell me if they have anything like I describe? Is it supposed to be smooth and bump free? Is my doctor fobbing me off?

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spykid · 18/04/2007 09:04

def NOT supposed to be smooth and bump free.

Worrying about this can bring on pains etc as SW said.

I woulkd beleive your doc and try and relax

expatinscotland · 18/04/2007 09:10

Also, it is possible to have more than one strain of HPV.

The strains which cause abnormalities in cervical cells, which may lead to cervical cancer, are NOT the same ones as those which cause genital warts.

If your GYN consultant looked at them and said they were not warts, they aren't. Believe me, he could tell!

MuckyAnthea · 18/04/2007 09:14

Thanks everyone - I guess I am just panicking.
Expat - I remember you responding to my last post re - HPV> you said you had had treatment for it, such as the Leep procedure. Can I ask how old you were when you had this, and how long after you had children? or did you have children before you had the LEEP? Hope I am not being too nosey.

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MuckyAnthea · 18/04/2007 09:16

Also - the doc did say they are not warts, so I felt better knowing it was not due to the HPV. I definitely have the HPV strain related to cervical cancer.

I am just concerned why these lumps have appeared, and are so obviously there, I can feel them when I am sitting down etc.

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expatinscotland · 18/04/2007 09:21

I had a LEEP when I was 31. It's done under local anaesthetic in the US, where I had it.

I have two strains of HPV which can predispose a woman to cervical cancer. I found out when I volunteered the biopsy sample taken at my colposcopy for medical research into a vaccine.

I had no children at the time. I fell pregnant about 9 months after my procedure and carried a healthy baby girl to full term, vaginal delivery.

LEEP in no way impaired fertility or pregnancy.

I had a second baby girl when I was 34.

yesireallycan · 18/04/2007 09:40

I must admit the lumps do sound a bit like warts - have you been referred to a GUM clinic or anywhere else for a second opinion? Maybe your GP isn't that familiar with what warts look like.

Having said that, I think it's pretty common for women to have fears of vaginal abnormality - because after all, how many fanjos do we ever get to see intimately? And google images is very coy on matters vaginal!

Is the bumpy bit like a sort of spongy tissue mass near the entrance to your vagina - i.e just inside, around your urethra? There is a funny lumpy structure there, I can't remember the name of it, I think it's the bulb of something. And there are glands that open into that area and which provide lubrication which can also feel lumpy. I know the inside of my fanjo is not perfectly smooth, but full of odd little ridges and bumps - that's completely normal.

As a doula I have also noticed that if women are pushing really intensively when giving birth there is this sort of spongy tissue that is normally hidden inside the vagina that sort of comes out a bit. I was a bit startled the first time I saw it but the complete lack of interest on the faces of the OB and nurses told me that this was nothing abnormal!

expatinscotland · 18/04/2007 09:45

It wasn't a GP who examined her, yes, it was a GYN consult who was performing a colposcopy as well.

Believe me, a GYN consult could tell if it were warts.

MuckyAnthea · 18/04/2007 10:40

Yes - it was a GYN, the head of the department in fact, I reckon the doc must be pushing 60, a lovely man, but not quick to explain matters in depth. He gave me a handout all about HPV, and when I found out my results from the colopscopy and asked if LEEP was the same as lazer, he said 'have you checked the leaflet I gave you' he is a quiet kind of man, who seems to not want to explain the situation much. I of course sit there, and smile and am afraid to ask anything because of his manner. Also the fact he is a man kind of freaks me out too. But only because I am embarrassed about talking too much of my symptons. I keep thinking he is sat there thinking to him self, 'we have got a live one here'.

yesireallycan- The lumps and bumps are a bit spongy, and the spongy mass does feel like its popping out a bit or bulgeing. I noticed it more today when I was frantically cleaning, but that might be because its on my mind.

Expat, you have calmed me down about the pregnancy issue, yesterday I was reading the New Scientist on the internet, and it said too many docs are quick to recommend the Leep procedure, without taking into account the infertility risk or risk of miscarriage. You have cleared my mind on that point, many thanks for this.

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MuckyAnthea · 18/04/2007 10:49

yesireallycan - I just read your reply again, and what you wrote sounds exactly what I am experienceing/feeling. If this is normal, then thank you so much for your explanation. I can clean my bathroom in a calm and peaceful manner!

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