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CANCER SUPPORT THREAD 60! Here we are again... join us if you have any sort of cancer (or if you're waiting for cancer test results)

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WhatWouldLeslieKnopeDo · 27/10/2017 20:36

Welcome everyone to a shiny new thread :)

It's a club nobody wants to join, but if you need us, you are more than welcome. If you're waiting to find out if you have cancer or not then pull up a chair. We hope you won't need to be here long, but we are here as long as you need us. And if you do have cancer then this is the place for you. Swear, rant, scream, laugh, cry... someone will have at least an inkling of what you're going through!

We only have one rule, which is do not Google. Though perhaps we should update that to please Google responsibly as few can resist completely!

I hope this thread will be a source of support for all who need it Flowers

Our previous thread can be found here

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royalmama · 31/10/2017 11:09

Thank you so much purple, nicky, fresta, twitterQueen!
mrs I'm really upset on your behalf!!! You shouldn't have to be left hanging like this. It's a really shameful course of events. I'm sure this could easily be handled if they had the will and dedication!
I strongly recommend you go private and making use if BUPA seeing as it is dragging on and it's causing you so much stress. Do you have to see your previous surgeon/ doctor? Can't you be seen by someone else? I think you deserve more consideration. I'm really sorry you're having to deal with all this. Flowers

TwitterQueen1 · 31/10/2017 11:13

Oh mrsrhod I'm so sorry. I cried down the phone too when people refused to do anything. At least you have found someone who will try to help. Fingers crossed she will come back to you soon.

mrsrhodgilbert · 31/10/2017 11:13

I've made a little progress. The lovely nurse, who has nothing to do with any of this, actually walked across the hospital to gynae and has arranged for the dr who did my hysteroscopy two weeks ago to call me tomorrow when he's next in. What an amazing thing to do. She also recommended a surgeon who she had her operation with locally so I have that to consider too if tomorrow doesn't go well. I couldn't thank her enough.

Why couldn't my bc nurse have picked up the phone and done that? twitter my husband was asking if there's anyone we could complain to which I guess would be PALS but I've got 18 more months to go and I need the bc nurse still. I'm not sure she would be that friendly if I went down that route although I'm increasingly angry that she suggested I come off my medication. She may call me back later as it's the MTD meeting today and she said she might be able to mention my problems to the oncologist. Might!

WhatWouldLeslieKnopeDo · 31/10/2017 12:05

Gosh it has been busy here! Will try and catch up now :)

I'm in hospital but nothing to worry about. I went for a blood test to see if I needed a transfusion and felt a bit iffy (normal chemo side effects plus return of period after two years Angry) so they sent me down to A&E. If I'd been at home I'd have just gone to bed but obviously they want to be cautious. Hopefully I'll be released in a bit :)

Anyway...

Firstly a huuuuuge phew royal! What a relief. I hope you enjoyed your impromptu celebration

mrsrhod I'm glad you found the nice nurse, but sorry you're going through this again. Your breast nurse sounds useless. I know what you mean about complaining though. I considered it last year when I had some issues with my colorectal nurse, but didn't want to affect our relationship Confused it's tricky. I hope you can get some decent advice soon.

leonard sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I hope your treatment is going well Flowers

purple good luck with your scans tomorrow. I also find them quite relaxing!

iVampire sorry to hear about the fatigue

LittleGreyCat well done on being a third of the way there!

wombat I hope you are recovering well after the bronchoscopy

I know I've missed people but will leave it there and just send love to all Flowers I have an unappetising lump of macaroni cheese if anyone fancies some...

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royalmama · 31/10/2017 13:04

Sending you loads if anti iffy vibes leslie hope you're out of there very soonFlowers mrs wow that's quite a positive development! What a very nice nurse indeed! Hope all goes well from here.

mrsrhodgilbert · 31/10/2017 14:10

leslie thanks for your thoughts and I'm sorry that you had to contemplate PALS too and that you're back in hospital. We can be period buddies. I've spoken to a nurse at breast cancer care for an opinion and as well as being shocked at the crappy help I'm getting said that tamoxifen has quite a long hangover in the body so is probably still offering me some protection. That's the first positive thing anyone has said. I don't think there's much more I can do now but wait until the call from the gynaecologist tomorrow. Thanks for all help and advice as ever.

TwitterQueen1 · 31/10/2017 14:35

Leslie sorry to hear you're in hospital. I'll pass on the macaroni cheese thanks all the same. Hope you get home pdq!

WhatWouldLeslieKnopeDo · 31/10/2017 15:00

I'm home, thanks. Saw a very sensible oncologist who said there's no point keeping me in hospital to catch illnesses!

mrsrhod I'm glad you've had a little reassurance from the BCC nurse, and I hope the gynaecologist is helpful tomorrow. I hope you're not too uncomfortable Flowers

Here's some Cake to make up for the uninspiring macaroni cheese

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wombat22 · 31/10/2017 16:08

Hello everyone.
Leslie I am glad you're home and hope you're feeling brighter.
My bronchoscopy didn't go ahead. My nose and throat were numbed in theatre but I had a bad reaction to the sedative. Started coughing/vomitting, blood pressure shot up and I developed a severe pain in my head. They had to cancel. I am so disappointed. They are going to try again next Monday using fentanyl instead.
I am still suffering headache but not as extreme.

purple My CT scan took about 15 mins. The results were really quick.

royal great news.

mrs What a lovely nurse. Fingers crossed they get moving for you.

Leonard Hope you are doing ok

Sending warm wishes and hugs to those who need it Thanks

WhatWouldLeslieKnopeDo · 31/10/2017 16:14

Oh no wombat what a shame. I hope your headache eases off soon. Was it that really weird "banana" flavour spray? It's rather nasty. Hopefully the fentanyl will work better for you Flowers

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purpleunicorns · 31/10/2017 16:17

I’m hoping I get the results fairly quick, I’m so impatient. I just want to get started with treatment now and hopefully get rid of it.

How are you doing now Leonard? Well I hope. There’s always somebody listening so feel free if you want to continue

wombat22 · 31/10/2017 18:55

Hi Leslie. Yes it was the 'banana' flavour Halloween Smile

iVampire · 31/10/2017 19:59

I know someone who had fentanyl (by patch) for a while. Good stuff, so he said. I hope it does its stuff for you.

Tastebuds haven’t worsened (I like macaroni cheese btw) and I’m fractionally less tired than yesterday. Possibly because I made the effort and went out for a short run first thing, and then a walk late on. Consultant has endorsed exercising (approved of wine too - fell on my feet there!)

Bit worried about water retention, as eyes feel puffy, but probably still look ok.

First bloods since change of drug tomorrow. I expect that’ll be on a ‘no news is good news’ basis unless I have to wait in clinic until someone’s run them (hope not)

leonardthelemming · 31/10/2017 20:19

Thank you for your concerns. Just back from GP appointment for toenail inspection - chemo-related, will say more later.

There are many known side effects to triptorelin. Fortunately, I only suffered from a few:

Hot flashes - difficult to explain while teaching a class of teenage girls (this was when I went back part-time).
Mood swings
Some degree of breast development - non-functional of course
Total loss of libido
Total erectile dysfunction.

But at least I was still alive.

I also suffered from depression, to the point where I felt that treatment was pointless and I should just let the disease take its course. I was prescribed cyproterone acetate to help with the hot flashes but I think it made the depression worse. Certainly, when I moved and my new oncologist replaced it with bicalutamide I felt a lot better.

The purpose of the bicalutamide was to help with rising PSA but unfortunately it didn't help after all. My PSA continued to rise and in the summer of last year the bicalutamide was withdrawn and I had further scans (MRI, CT, gamma) before deciding on further treatment.

One bizarre side effect is that I developed a compulsive urge to write romantic fiction! It isn't in the list of known side effects but one of the nurses suggested it could be a possibility and I really can't think of any other explanation. I certainly never did so previously.

Really long again. If anyone is still reading, I'll bring you up to date tomorrow.

iVampire · 31/10/2017 20:24

‘I developed a compulsive urge to write romantic fiction! It isn't in the list of known side effects but one of the nurses suggested it could be a possibility’

So now we know why so many Mills and Boon are set in hospitals Halloween Grin

purpleunicorns · 01/11/2017 06:21

Just what I was thinking ivampire Grin you never know we might all turn into award winning writers.

What treatment are you having now Leonard? And is it helping? I’m dreading my nails falling out, I don’t think I’ll be able to work if that happens as I work on a food counter where we can’t wear gloves Sad

mrsrhodgilbert · 01/11/2017 10:03

Hi leonard and welcome. My fil had prostate cancer so some of this is sounding familiar. How are you now?

I'm waiting for a call from the gynaecologist who did my hysteroscopy to find out the results and hopefully a suggestion of next steps. Unfortunately this is the same man who tried to convince me that it's ok to be on anastrazole pre menopause so wasn't concerned about the medication issue. I need to convince him he's wrong about that without offending him. I spoke to my own nurse, a bupa oncology nurse and a nurse on the breast cancer care helpline yesterday and my own pharmacist this morning to confirm this. How I wish these drs would speak to each other.

mrsrhodgilbert · 01/11/2017 10:12

Ok have a good time. Have you spoken to the bank about your mortgage yet? He might not be free to talk if you don't call until the end of the week

mrsrhodgilbert · 01/11/2017 10:12

Tops, wrong message there

royalmama · 01/11/2017 10:32

mrs yes you'd think if they collaborated, they'd work so much out, save time and avoid unnecessary pain and stress!
Hope it all works out for the best and to your benefit.

leonardthelemming · 01/11/2017 11:06

My present diagnosis is Advanced Metastatic Castration-resistant Prostate Cancer. What is frustrating is that the original cancer seems to have been cured (by the brachytherapy) so effectively I have bone cancer.

My current oncologist leads a research team and offered radium therapy, a course of six injections at monthly intervals. I had no side effects at all but, although there was some improvement, my PSA was still too high so the treatment was stopped after four cycles and I was advised that chemotherapy was the next option. Another problem was that my wife had had an allergic reaction while accompanying me to one of the scans. I suppose, if you're going to have an allergic reaction, a hospital is the best place to have it. But we think she may be allergic to the cleaning fluids they use, so we decided she shouldn't go with me in future.

I had been dreading the thought of chemotherapy, but apparently the latest research suggests that chemo is more effective if given while the patient is still otherwise fit (and so can better tolerate the side effects). I was booked in for a course of ten IV infusions of docataxel, which is apparently quite an aggressive chemotherapy drug (I hadn't realised there were so many different types). The zolodronic acid was to continue during alternate cycles, so no need for a separate canula.

I've always found that having the canula inserted was the worst part of IV treatment, but at my current hospital they have a whole team dedicated to chemotherapy and the nurses are experts. Not necessarily the same nurse each time but all really helpful and as long as I looked the other way I hardly felt the canula going in.

However, shortly before I had to go for the pre-treatment visit, I developed severe back pain - to the extent that I could hardly get in or out of bed. So instead of going to the hospital on the bus I had to go by taxi, with grown-up elder son accompanying to take me to the ward in a wheelchair. Very frustrating, as I used to do a fair bit of hiking. Anyway, two doctors were called - the resident ward doctor and a consultant oncologist (the nursing staff were very impressed) - and she (the oncologist) booked me in for yet another MRI scan. But she felt it was important to start the chemo regardless, so I did.

The first cycle was a disaster. Not the actual treatment - although I had to attend in a wheelchair again - but the side effects. I had to attend for the MRI scan a few days after treatment and I think I must have upset the whole schedule because when I was called for the scan I was in the waiting room toilets with uncontrollable diarrhea. I had previously kept the taxi waiting with the same problem. So by the time the scan was finished I was so dehydrated I was admitted and put on a drip for 36 hours. Kept in isolation too - in case I was infectious. In the event though, all was OK, and I was able to go home, with tablets to control the diarrhea and a telling-off from the nurse in charge for not phoning them immediately I had any symptoms.

Subsequent cycles went much better. I was able to get to the hospital by myself, on the bus, and at first the only inconvenient side effect was a loss of taste sensation during the middle week between cycles. And general weakness resulting from low red blood cell count. For that, and low white blood cell count, I had to have injections which fortunately my wife was brave enough to administer. But I lost my beard - which felt really weird - and my hair fell out in tufts. I couldn't really complain about that though - many men younger than me are completely bald. And it's growing back.

But after a while I did notice my fingernails were developing ridges - one for each cycle, like tree rings - and they were becoming discoloured. My toenails were much worse - almost black. And I was developing neuropathy in my hands and especially my feet, so walking was becoming more difficult. By the fifth cycle it was so bad that the dose was reduced for the sixth cycle and then treatment was stopped altogether in June this year. No chemo, no zolodronic acid, no calcium tablets, just the tamsulosin capsules I was prescribed after brachytherapy and will have to take forever.

Fortunately, it seems to have worked. My PSA dropped drastically and I seem to be in remission - for the moment. There is no cure though - not for the present at least - but research is ongoing. I was given a further MRI scan and things seem to be OK at present. A full-spine MRI takes over an hour, incidentally. The plan now is that I will have another combined gamma/CT scan early in the new year and take it from there. I have been reassured that there are still plenty of options - I can have external beam radiotherapy on selected areas of my spine where the tumours are, a different form of chemotherapy, and a more aggressive type of hormonal therapy.

But to an extent I feel guilty that I must be costing the NHS a lot of money, and I hope it doesn't have negative consequences for younger people. People with young children, for example, and teenagers. I taught a girl who was desperately trying to keep up with her GCSEs whilst having chemotherapy and it made me really sad. I left the school shortly after and have no idea what the outcome was, for her. But at least at my next school I was able to facilitate - by helping with logistics - a group of girls who were raising money for the Teenage Cancer Trust.

I did develop a fungal infection in my toenails (reduced immunity because of chemo) but a course of antibiotics fixed that. But my GP yesterday prescribed a third two-month supply of terbinafine tablets to help with the toenail issue. He is convinced that bright shiny new toenails are developing under the old, blackened ones, and that eventually the old ones will be pushed off without exposing the nail bed.

The darker parts of my fingernails have broken away from the new growth, but only once they had extended so far they were like talons. I couldn't cut them - they were too hard. But the new growth is fine.

The oncologist recommended continuing with the triptorelin injections so yesterday I booked an appointment for next month. I asked if I could have my flu jab at the same time and was told that it would be better to have it immediately, so a nurse came and stuck another needle in me. To think I used to be scared of needles! She did say that the flu vaccine is even more important for people who have had chemotherapy.

So that's it, up to date. My wife and I had hoped to do a bit of travelling once we retired. That won't happen now - not to any great extent - but if the results in January suggest I won't need ongoing treatment for a little while, we might manage a couple of short trips to Europe. Won't risk going further afield though. Fingers crossed!

diamondlife · 01/11/2017 11:30

Hello all.
Didn’t think I’d find myself on this thread but here I am.
Had some post menopausal bleeding last month which took me to my GP.
Had an ultrasound which picked up a ‘mildly complex cyst’. Now awaiting results from a blood test which can apparently detect the cancer?
Won’t get the results until next Thursday so not sure how I’m going to get through this.
Never thought I’d have ovarian cancer at 54. Sad

WhatWouldLeslieKnopeDo · 01/11/2017 12:42

Hi diamond nobody wants to be here, but hopefully you'll find it a supportive place :) have they said it's definitely cancer? A few others on here have ovarian cancer, and others have had suspicious things that turned out not to be cancer. Hopefully they'll be able to advise better. The waiting is the worst bit. You'll get through because you have to, but it won't always be much fun! Flowers it's definitely a bit easier once you know what you are dealing with

leonard obviously none of us have prostate cancer, but there's quite a few of us with stage IV of various sorts and in various locations, so welcome to the club :) I'm sorry to hear you had a rough time with the chemo - that's what Twitter has just had and her nails have taken quite a bashing too! Has your bone pain improved at all? Fingers crossed for your next results and hopefully a little holiday

mrsrhod any word from the gynaecologist yet? It's so awkward when they're wrong about something, especially something so important Angry it's incredibly stressful having conflicting advice as there's no easy way for the patient to work out who knows best! It'd be better if they fought it out amongst themselves and then presented a united front to patients, though I suspect some doctors' egos would prevent that Grin

iVampire good luck with today's blood test Star I love macaroni cheese. I find my taste really disappears for a few days each cycle and I crave lots of strong flavours.

purple try not to worry about your nails yet. There's so many different chemo regimes and many have little effect on nails, so hopefully it won't be an issue Flowers

I have a heavy cold, which seems to be causing chest issues. I'm quite breathless and have some chest/back pain. I really don't want to go back to A&E so I'm hoping it resolves itself (GP and chemo unit both refer to A&E immediately for chest x ray, which is understandable but I always feel like such a time waster!)

I hope everyone is having a good day

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diamondlife · 01/11/2017 13:10

Hi WhatWouldLeslieKnopeDo

Thank you for the welcome. Smile

No, they haven’t said it’s definitely cancer, but the fact that I’m post menopause ( although only stopped having my periods last year, this bleed was 4 months past the ‘12’ months if that makes sense? LMP was June 16 & I started bleeding again 2 weeks ago ) the ultrasound picked up a ‘complex cyst’ measuring 2.7 by 2.3, so GP wants blood test to see if it’s cancer or not.
But I agree, the waiting is the worst, if it is cancer at least I know what I’m dealing with & can start treatment.

WhatWouldLeslieKnopeDo · 01/11/2017 13:19

Sorry if I sounded dismissive Blush I didn't intend to, but wanted to see whereabouts you are in the process. Either way, it's the same worry Flowers I hope that it turns out to be something harmless, but it's definitely good that they are investigating throughly

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