Tissue sloughing in mouth

[twolittleboysonetiredmum]

I've only come across the official term for what's happening in my mouth on google, so I hope it's correct! Basically at the bottom of the mouth, on both sides, my mouth has lots of peely skin that I fuss at with my tongue. It's been like this for a few mths. It's not painful in any way - it's much like when you've burned your mouth but without the sore bit. As it's not uncomfortable/red etc I haven't really thought about it much. But should I get it checked out? What could be causing it?

mrsmorton I was waiting for your response ...

I was thinking hang on a minute mrs morton is a dentist
I can't use any whitening toothpastes either, this sloughing is horrible twolittleboys

If you've been Around sheep, goats or livestock you could have Orf.
I've had it, my mouth was falling apart for weeks untill it eventually disappeared!

Twolittleboys there are loads of SLS free showergels around, you just have to look.

Eco and organic brands will usually be SLS free (some of the baby ones are lovely, I love Earth Friendly Baby), skincare orientated brands like Avene, E45, Eucerin have them.

However watch out for major brands like Sanex or Dove who sell things supposedly 0% nasties, or with moisturising cream - their products all still have SLS in

However if everyone stopped putting SLS in products, they now look weird to the consumer who is trained to expect foaming = clean, and of course they wouldn't be able to sell you body lotion/hand cream for your dry skin anymore which is bad for business. So companies carry on talking about 'rich lather' when it's nothing of the sort.

I agree hulder one of the problems with the prescription SLS free toothpaste is that people use LOADS bcse it doesn't foam! You still need the same amount but you don't get the bubbles!

Same with shower gels etc, I use a double base shower gel. It's so lovely but doesn't feel tingly like normal ones so it takes a bit of getting used to.

😩orf sounds horrible. We do visit farms occasionally but I'll just live in denial and hope to god I haven't got that!!

Its normally by the end of the day I get sloughing, none at all yet today even though I cleaned my teeth this morning. If I was reacting to my toothpaste would it not be afterwards or is it more accumulative than immediate?

I have this from time to time and my dentist referred me to a specialist to check all was ok. The specialist said it can be caused by acidic food and that tomatoes were often the main cause.

yeah thanks. Actually did a fair bit of that whilst I was doing my degree in dentistry and the odd catch up since in over a decade of practice. I'll bear your expertise in mind tho. Excuse me if I don't bow down to you. Been busy pumping plenty of the mercury into people over the years, not so much these days though I see

of course you're excused from bowing, we don't expect that sort of deference any more. Certainly not on MN anyway.

I'm not sure you really know what you're talking about other than non evidence based opinion pieces you've diligently googled but feel free to blame me for your perceptions of the shortcomings of my profession.

Toothpaste causes it for me, Colgate in particular. I use Oral B without any issues.

Yes Colgate does it to me too. Interestingly I'm fine with sensodyne

another one aghast at mrsmorton being dentistsplained at.

peace occupational hazard!

delilah that's interesting as it's a recognised "side effect" of some oral B ones... one of their scientist did explain it to me once and it was to do with ions (maybe cations) but my memory didn't hold onto that info less to say that it's quite normal.

Everyone reacts differently so it's not a bad idea to try a few different brands until you settle on yours favourite. I love Macleans and it's only 90p in Tesco!

Mrs Morton - as a wise dentist, could you recommend a similar toothpaste that has the same effect has sensodyne? My dentist has told me to use the repair and protect as it builds up over time. I switched once and noticed the discomfort almost the next day so am worried that would happen again

🤔 what else have you tried? There are so many variables it's hit and miss and it can be expensive to keep trying different ones!

Colgate have sensitive toothpastes as do oral B, they have subtly different recipes so can affect people in different ways. Definitely stay clear of cinnamonaldehyde as that's a potent irritant. The prescription one is duraphat 5000ppm. If you get the chance it might be worth asking your dentist if you can try it?

Once you find one that works, it's helpful to smear it on with your finger just before bed so it's got time to sink in. Also, never ever rinse after brushing.

That's great thank you. Yes I never rinse and use it like an ointment when things are very sensitive. Sensodyne has been a real life saver for me so am scared to leave it but can't bear this sloughing! I tried an Aldi own brand one and oral b. Maybe I'll have a look at the Colgate

If you're using Oral B Pro Expert I would really recommend just trying one without Stannous Flouride in, I had exactly this issue and took me a while to figure out why. I thought it was some kind of saliva thing until I realised it was my skin coming off - as it was getting really sore.

I couldn't believe it but found quite a few negative reviews saying similar online. Colgate Total is fine for me.

I can't use mint toothpaste as it burns my mouth so I use a kids one but with adult fluoride levels. Not sure if it has SLS in but it's Tesco strawberry milkshake flavour

I can use sensodyne gentle whitening but any of the others make my mouth peel. Oranges, pineapple (urgh cant stand it anyway!) & some other fruits cause it too. Stuff like crisps that are too salty also. Any kind of diluting juice..... my mouth may be a bit oversensitive

If recent have you eaten more berries or ice lollies than usual?

I get this from certain toothpastes, mostly the Oral B bright blue one.

Am I the only one who really enjoys the peeling?!

Interestingly since I started this post it's not happened! So it must be something I'm eating. I am intrigued...

Pine nuts sometimes do funny things but that's usually related to taste I think.

Pine nuts are awful things generally. I do tend to eat strawberries more at This time of year so wondering if it is something to do with berries

Stannous chloride is TIN chloride.

I've just come across this thread after looking at Oral-B's sensitive and gentle whitening toothpaste WITH SUGAR SHIELD and STANNOUS FLUORIDE COMPLEX

i did a double take as I have a chemistry background and remember stannous and stannic chloride compounds from secondary school.

After Googling "Stannous Chloride", it turns out that yes, putting tin (II) chloride salt into sodium fluoride containing toothpastes really does stop demineralisation and creates a bond with the tooth enamel that resists dissolving in acidic conditions.

You may be suffering a reaction to tin.

Seriously. Tin. In toothpaste.