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Can you recommend a tonic that will increase my energy levels?

38 replies

givemestrengthorgin · 19/03/2017 22:39

I'm really struggling with my energy levels. With part time working and 2 small children I struggle to do anything in the evening other than sit on the couch and eat rubbish. I already take a multivitamin but wondering if some sort of tonic might help too. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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DevelopingDetritus · 23/03/2017 08:20

Sorry, forgot to do star to highlight you parrcful

finagler · 23/03/2017 08:20

That foul tasting yeast tonic. It's amazing.

Bio strath!

terrylene · 23/03/2017 09:45

We have always been told about vit D in relation to rickets, but what I now know is that if you are low in vit D, but not so low that the calcium comes out of your bones, then you feel tired and just can't be arsed, and you ache. It took me 6 weeks of supplements for there to be a change.

Bettertobehealthy · 23/03/2017 11:17

Here is a bit of info .....well a lot really ! , about Vitamin D.

    Yes , amongst many symptoms of D deficiency  is fatigue  and tiredness , lethargy, muscle aches and pains , joint pains , etc. 

    In the UK ,  at our latitude , 50 degrees plus ,  the suns elevation, in winter  never goes above 45 degrees in the sky,  this means that UVB , the high energy light which produces Vitamin D in our skin is absent  from Mid October to Mid April.   So we have a 6 month period when we cannot make vitamin D in our skin from sunlight.  This is just physics ,   it has been proved by various bodies.  Light of wavelength shorter than 320 , i.e. UVB  is absorbed by the long pathlength through the atmosphere in winter.      So ,   if your shadow is shorter than you , in summer, then,  the suns elevation is greater than 45 degrees  and you <strong>can</strong> make vitamin D .   If your shadow is longer than your height ,  then you <strong>cannot</strong> make Vitamin D.    So ,  even in summer ,,,, before about 11 in the morning   and after  about 3 in the afternoon,   you cannot make vitamin D.    Again, this is all just physics. 

      Food  is quite a limited source of Vitamin D .   It is a fat soluble vitamin ,   so it is NOT found in any fruits or vegetables at all.   It is not found in most foods unless they have been specifically fortified. Some countries do mandate some fortification ,  i.e. the USA ,  we in the UK, however, do not.   You will find a very few items with a very low level of fortification, but not many at all.     Eggs  contain about  40 IU  each.    A very very low level ,    enough for a chick to develop,   but  not enough to satisfy our needs.   Oily fish is one of the best sources , wild salmon being a prime example ,  also mackerel etc. However, to get sufficient , you would need to consume that fish every day.   Humans evolved to make their own Vitamin D in skin,  in strong sunlight.  When we sunbathe in strong sun ,  we can make  10,000  to 20,000   IU     in  20 mins ,    if you are white skinned.   If you are dark skinned it will take  3  to 5 times longer , to make the same amount.  Skin pigment acts as a sunscreen.    Sunscreen creams and lotions , can prevent UVB  from reaching the skin cells which make vitamin D . If you apply  factor 15  or more ,  you can reduce your Vitamin D production in that skin by  97%.  

      Many people in this country have low levels of vitamin D , for the reasons outlined above.  Our blood levels are generally   1/2  to 1/4   that which prevailed throughout human evolution in Africa, where sunlight is strong enough to make vitamin D all year round.   Our migration from Africa , (approx  45,000 years ago)  has meant that our bodies need to adapt to lower light levels. It is only  10,000 years ago , at the end of the last ice age , that we moved into Northern Europe,  and became white. Evolutionary pressure caused this adaptation to spread throughout our Northern population.  Darker skin  inhibits the production of Vit D ,  so darker skinned individuals would be less able to survive.   Vitamin D is an essential  micro-nutrient.  It becomes a hormone  in the body ,  it enables genes in every cell in your body to be read , it enables  those cells to function properly.   About  2000 of your genes are affected. That is about  10%  of your entire genome.  Low vitamin D   is associated with a myriad of illness, from short latency , like rickets , to long latency like osteoporosis osteopenia etc etc.   In evolutionary terms ,  10,000 years is short , we have not evolved our physiology to cope with low vitamin D. It is true we have had a few genetic mutations i.e white skin ,   which is a single gene mutation ,  however  every cell in our body carries a receptor for vitamin D.    If you lived and worked in sunlight , like our ancestors , you blood level would rise to their level,   as has been shown in modern day humans ,  lifeguards etc.   Our modern lifestyle  pre-disposes us to low vitamin D ,  our latitude means that we will be low vitamin D ,  unless we take steps to alleviate it. 

          If you think you are deficient ,   then have a look over here  ,   where you will find many people that have been diagnosed with Vit D deficiency , their stories, how it affected them , how it was treated. What effect it had etc.  

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/general_health/2421492-Vitimin-D-can-it-have-this-effect

    I have posted  quite  a few times here on Mumsnet , with information/ latest research into this Vitamin,  search my nick,  if you are interested !

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geordiedench · 23/03/2017 17:32

Better - that's a really good point about high sunscreen. It's in so many creams these days - everyday mosituriser is often factor 15, which means no chance of getting Vit D from a walk on a sunny day unless arms and legs are exposed or we leave off the moisturiser.

givemestrengthorgin · 26/03/2017 00:36

I bought some floradix today - the liquid version. But now I've noticed a few reviews online that have mentioned the product staining your teeth. Those of you that use it, have you experienced any teeth staining or do you take it in a certain way to reduce the chance of staining?

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MissAdaSmith · 26/03/2017 07:09

working P/T and having small children can be hard work but you really shouldn't feel to run down by the end of the day. I would see GP for blood tests Your iron or ferritin may be low and it that case you would need some proper iron supplements not just some tonic. spatone would be useless in that case if you don't know if you are deficient in anything, then some random stuff won't fix it.

BarchesterFlowers · 26/03/2017 10:09

It doesn't stain my teeth give and I have used it for 15 years.

Having small children and working is knackering. The OP has confessed to sitting down and eating junk. I wouldn't be going to the Dr for blood tests before I had tried to help myself a bit which is what the OP is doing. If Floradix and an improved diet don't do anything then yes, blood tests, fine, but I wouldn't make it my first stop if I was otherwise healthy.

BIWI · 26/03/2017 20:56

What is your daily diet though? What kind of stuff are you eating? You really should be looking at this first, before just resorting to supplements recommended by randoms on the internet!

Greenvalleymama · 26/03/2017 21:20

I swear by Feroglobin by Vitabotics, it has iron and vitamin B12. If I take it every day I bounce out of bed in the morning, it really makes a huge difference!

Bebraveagain · 26/03/2017 21:26

A blood test will show you what you are lacking and enable you to take the necessary action to resolve it. If you are seriously low in vit D,iron, B12 or thyroid, you'll need the right medication or supplement, at the appropriate strength, to turn your well-being around. This will be much quicker and effective than guessing☺.

CoteDAzur · 26/03/2017 21:29

Sleep more.

Take iron supplements.

LuxuryWoman2017 · 26/03/2017 21:47

I'm a big fan of feraglobin too, it's not very expensive and makes a huge difference to me along with cutting sugar and also alcohol. I used to drink a lot in an effort to relax but then it would affect my sleep and I'd go round in circles.

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