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Help please! 10 mth old high temp, vomiting, chest infection. What shall I do?

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MrsNoah · 03/02/2007 11:38

Started 24 hrs ago.
now 39.6c
Projectile vomiting all his meds/feeds.
Bathing him every 2 hrs.
Crying heavy breathing and rattly chest.

GP referred him over phone to A&E as an urgent case but the foreign doctor there who could barely speak english listened to his chest thru all vest and babygro.
Didnt examine anything else and gave some wierd antibiotics that she had to ask advice for.

this is no 3 so I know when to be worried, I am

What to do ?

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PeckaRolloverAgain · 03/02/2007 11:42

What is his breathing like? Is he struggling?

When my DS was poorly with a chest infection they told me to look out for his chest sinking in with each breath. Is he doing that?

Also is he weeing ok?

Can you give him calpol and nurofen to double up the attack on the temperature?

I would be going back in with him if his temp didnt drop fairly soon and if I thought he was throwing up more than he was taking in or his breathing was very laboured.

Also, believe in your instinct. If you dont feel right about anything - go in.

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MrsNoah · 03/02/2007 11:48

thanks pecka. breathing lke full of cold, panting but not too bad.

he isnt keeping the meds down and is crying all the time and whimper ing.
But still alert.
snot is green now urgh.
dont think he is dehydrated yet, nappies ok but he is sipping water still. no food or milk since fri lunch.

god a red rash has just appeared allover forehead ???

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chlochlo · 03/02/2007 11:52

I'd be tempted to take him back to a&e when was he last seen. How old is he.
That is a very high temperature.

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MrsNoah · 03/02/2007 11:57

10 months

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nearlythree · 03/02/2007 12:00

Go back to A&E. They will have different staff on.

You could try ringing an ambulance - maybe that would get your ds treated as a more serious case.

saralou100 · 03/02/2007 12:01

if he's not keeping anything down, including meds nd with a temp that high, i'd get him back to a&e.

hope he's better soon!!

piglit · 03/02/2007 12:01

Both my dses (2.3 and 1.3) have had this. Every sympathy MrsNoah.

I went to the docs and was told to use calpol and nurofen to the max dose. Lots of steam to help clear chests (try putting a wet towel on a hot radiator too). Does he sound croupy?

Unfortunately ds2 still has a rotten cold and chesty cough 3 weeks on and they both have conjunctivitis and green snot.

Having said that, if you are still concerned take him back. Listening to a baby's chest through clothes is just stupid.

themildmanneredjanitor · 03/02/2007 12:03

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MrsNoah · 03/02/2007 12:16

oh you are all so wonderful, sob
asleep now in my arms in a towel.

has kept calpol down 30mins and temp now 38.4c.
thats better isnt it, phew. am wondering if its just the brufen he is vomiting?

he has had a cough for weeks on and off, usual winter germs.

but we suspect having the pneumococcal booster on weds has tipped him over the edge.
i put it off 4 wks too.

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MrsNoah · 03/02/2007 12:19

piglit, no its not croupy. its real smokers cough.
and he has just given that conjunctivitis to dd2 who very thoughtfully gave it to my mum who now looks shocking.

listening thru clothes? am right to be surprised then?

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piglit · 03/02/2007 13:09

Ds2 definitely had the smokers cough - we made (feeble) jokes amongst ourselves about him nipping outside for fags when we weren't looking. Reading your post reminded me that we stopped giving ds2 nurofen because I am convinced that it makes him vomit. His vomiting certainly reduced drastically when we stopped the nurofen.

He has his MMR/PCV catch up on Wednesday. Have been thinking about putting it off again and having read what you say I think I'll put it off for another 4 weeks.

Wishing your ds better very soon.

PeckaRolloverAgain · 03/02/2007 14:33

They pant with a high temperature, panting can often be symptom of fever rather than breathing difficulty.

sasa15 · 03/02/2007 14:37

go to Hospital....

and also in Italy we put supposery in his bum,...so they don't vomit

saralou100 · 03/02/2007 14:37

listening through clothes will just make sounds a little quieter, and thats all their listening to is the sound in your ds chest... if he has a chest infection it will sound very noisy in their! so no, i don't think it's a prblem to have listened through his clothes!

at least you know his temp is coming down now!

poor little dude, doesn't sound like your having much fun!

Bowbelles · 03/02/2007 15:45

I'd go back to A&E if he's still bad.
When my ds3 was 10 wks old we were told he had an ear infection. Went to night-call GP that night who rushed him straight into hospital - turned out to be pneumonia. Hope he's better soon.

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MrsNoah · 03/02/2007 15:50

hi still here. waiting for dh to get back from usa any min now.
Temp not too bad at the moment. But he is so miserable and snotty. Its lilke something hurts him every so often as he will howl in pain.
prob will end up take him back in.

Piglit, dont let our situation affect your mmr jab. Now i am convinced the nurofen is making him throw up.
No more of that then.
off for our billionth bath

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liquidclocks · 03/02/2007 15:52

MrsNoah - as you say, this is no.3 so you know you're right to be concerned. I'd take him back - listening to his chest through clothes is NOT right and if he's vomiting and supposed to be on antibiotics he won't be keeping the right dose down. They can give him his meds through an IV just until he gets well enough if need be.

If that temp goes back to 39 then defnintely go. DS had pneumonia twice and we were also told to listen for grunting and to see if his chest was pulling in below the ribs or in a the base of the neck.

Hope he's feeling better soon.

chlochlo · 03/02/2007 19:17

hope ds is ok

NotAnOtter · 03/02/2007 20:25

how is he mrs noah?

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MrsNoah · 04/02/2007 20:40

Hi. He is much improved today.
He has sat on my lap all day sipping water which is a big relief.
Temperature has gone down a lot now.

We did take him back to hospital after waiting for the oncall gp for 2 hrs who was so busy.

We saw another Dr who examined him very well this time and listened to his chest not thru the clothes!
He suggested that we bin the antibiotics and taught us how to look for signs of dehydration (happy to share them if anyone interested).
Considering he hadnt had a wet nappy since night before he had amazing reserves of fluid and wasnt dehydrated much at all.

It was decided that he may well have had either a virus or an unusual reaction to the pneumoccal vaccine on wednesday, although you dont normally get a temp over 38c ish (his was 39.6 at highest point)

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MrsNoah · 04/02/2007 20:42

He is still pretty miserable but has manged a smile for me tonight. Bless.

Just wanted to thank all those of you who gave me advice in my desperate hour.

Having a poorly baby is always a bit scary especially when your partner is away and you were all wonderful.

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MrsNoah · 05/02/2007 20:49

Monday and he has had this for 5 days now, am getting worried again.

Ds projectile vomited all his milk this morning and has slept or cried pitifully all day.
Its not normal to have a temp this long with no improvement is it?

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mistressmiggins · 05/02/2007 21:00

glad to hear MrsNoah

what are the signs of dehydration?

LIZS · 05/02/2007 21:08

tbh it sounds like dd when she had bronchiolitis . Think you could do with another opinion tbh although not being dehydrated is a good sign but vomitign can change it rapidly. As it is probably viral you can do little but encourage fludis, humidify the air (steam, wet wahsing on radiator), raise his bed head and use Calpol/Nurofen to bring temeprature. If his breathing is at all laboured, he seems listless and dehydrated, or temperature rises do go back.

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