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GP trying to prescribe wrong/unhelpful things and getting cross with me

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OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 29/06/2016 13:47

I just want to check I'm not barking up the wrong tree here.

Have endometriosis. Pain very severe first day of period, lessens afterwards. Currently take codeine on the first and sometimes second day, which helps a fair bit. Gynaecologist suggested Tramadol, for the first hours/day when the pain is extreme, and said he'd include a note in his letter to GP to say I should be given it if I need it.

He didn't do this. Also, had a brain freeze during my GP appt. that meant I couldn't remember the name of the drug either. Fair enough, GP can't/won't prescribe (although I'd assume he would be able to work it out himself or prescibe some other suitable strong painkiller, but nevermind).

GP then offered tranexamic acid. Had issue with previous GP giving this to me; it's for heavy bleeding (which I don't have) and apparently you're not supposed to take it if you don't have this symptom. Plus, I can't find anything that suggests its intended for pain. I explained that I don't have heavy bleeding, blah blah, and GP just acted like I was making it up, telling me it relaxed the muscles (or something) and would help the pain. I again repeated that on the patient info leaflet it specifically says: do not take if you do not have heavy bleeding! He got all huffy, saying he was the one with the medical degree, what did I know, and looked it up and patronisingly read it out to me. Of course, it was all about menorrhagia, no mention of pain. He still acted like I was the one being awkward though.

Then he offered me mefanaemic acid, which some people swear by, but for me it doesn't touch the pain. Think it's because it's best of you take it before the pain starts but my period isn't predictabe enough to do this (and when it starts pain goes from 0 - ARGH in 20mins). Explained this, and that I'd tried it. He again acted like I was being awkward, almost as if he didn't believe me it didn't work.

Finally - and bearing in mind I'd explained I currently use codeine - he offered me co-codomol. Was more unsure of my ground here, but I have been prescibed co-codomol before and it didn't touch the pain. I can't take enough for the codeine to work without overdosing on the parcetamol element (explained both these things to GP). However, I'm not sure if they are in theory supposed to work together in a way that is better than a higher dose of codeine alone..? It felt a bit insulting tbh, being fobbed off with paracetamol as if i'm too stupid to have tried that before, or he thinks I'm exaggerating the severity of the pain.

Ended up in tears, speaking through gritted teeth trying not to completely lose it, trying to explain to him that prescribing me something for heavy bleeding, which I dont have, is not helpful, and no it's not me being awkward. And that surely co-codomol wasn't as strong as paracetamol. Had to keep repeating the same basic sentences again and again.

It reminded me of abusive ex(es) - the way their whole manner is acting outraged at you being so difficult and like you're doing something dreadfully wrong; an argument that you are provoking and they are innocent. Doesn't matter how much logic or cold hard truth you can politely supply, or how irrational they are being, they still act as if youre the one in the wrong. The actions and manner doesn't add up with the actual conversation being had.

I'm sorry, just really upset by this. And so frustrated. Have contaced gynae's office to hopefully get a letter sent and get painkillers. (FWIW gynae is awesome, explains everything simply and efficiently.)

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welshweasel · 11/08/2016 12:50

I'm a doctor and I have severe endo. I have been treated like I was a drug addict whilst trying to get effective painkillers prescribed by my GP. Like you, I only need them for a day or two a month so ended up getting gynae to prescribe them. I would put everything in writing and send a copy to the practice manager and to your gynaecologist. If it's not sorted before your next period then you get an urgent on the day appointment.

OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 11/08/2016 13:09

Polter Ooh I will try that then.

welsh It's crap, isn't it? I think they just do not believe the severity of the pain. How did it compare to childbirth for you, out of interest? (no DC here but imagine I'd need an epidural if period pain does this to me!)

I don't think I could make it to the surgery when I actually need the painkillers. It's not just the pain, it's the shakiness/weakness/sickness. Would be quite satisfying to vomit and pass out in front of GP but I'd probably just be in agony, trying not to fall over and have them think I was making a fuss... as well as being unable to cope with GPs obsfuscation in that state. And just trying to cope in the waiting room! I'd look like a cow in labour, I have to lean over things and sway my hips and try not to vomit.

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OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 11/08/2016 13:10

They have also refused to see me before my next period. It's within days.

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OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 11/08/2016 13:17

Oh and just to be clear - the gynae is on annual leave atm. Sorry wasn't clear. It's only because there was already a letter (from last October!) that his secretary was able to send another copy.

So it's just the practice manager. Sigh.

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tribpot · 11/08/2016 13:21

Is there no other GP at the practice you can see?

welshweasel · 11/08/2016 13:22

I had a c section so can't answer that one. I was up and about the day after my section though, with only paracetamol, pushing the pram to and from town day 3 and driving day 7. The pain was very tolerable. I shattered my wrist into 7 pieces in a high speed skiing accident and had 2 operations on it, the pain was mild in comparison to my periods. Tooth abscess, tolerable. Unless people have experienced the pain they have no idea! You could always try the walk in centre?

JigglypuffsCaptor · 11/08/2016 13:45

I have a kidney infection, I'm also allergic to anti infalmotories meds (ibuprofen, neproxen, sodium diclifenac) sorry for spellings, I'm also allergic to penicillin!

I've been give tramadol, I've been on it for over a week and I'm seeming off best I can because honestly I rather slight pain than the side effects. It initially made me sleepy but now I think I'm getting used to it, so I'm more hazy than sleepy but trying to work is near on impossible I keep spacing out.

I'm off to my GO later to return them and ask for something lower.

Memoires · 11/08/2016 14:35

Is there anyone who could go to the gp with you when you're in pain, and can advocate for you?

OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 11/08/2016 19:06

Memoirs Not really. I suspect it wouldn't have got this far if there was...

tribpot I might try to get an appointment with a different GP, but it could be longer than 2 weeks then (booked appt in 2 weeks a week ago). Although I suppose it doesn't matter as will be longer until next period. Unfortunately the GP who prescribed me enough codeine to knock an elephant out is away at the moment! I also wanted to get on with this so I could change surgeries and have it settled before the new academic year.

jiggly That sounds difficult, I hope you manage to get something more appropriate. For myself I am incapable at the height of the pain anyway so I figure I may as well be woozy/unconscious but in less pain.

welsh Yes, I've never experienced pain like it. It sort of radiates out from my lower back and somehow cripples my whole body in a way that other pain doesn't. Actually with other things I seem to need not much pain relief eg. denistry and post operative. But obviously I'm a hypochondriac drug-seeker. Hmm

I'm just so pissed off I have to have another excruciating period because they won't let me have a script they should have given me last October! And when I initially tried to sort this out I was reassured they'd just write the script and I could pick it up. What a complete cock my GP is.

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OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 11/08/2016 19:09

Ps. I just want to get away from this GPs control. Feels like LTB! Grin Just want it over.

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NoDramaForTheLlama · 11/08/2016 19:27

When you do get the tramadol just bear in mind it might not suit you.

tramadol gives me panic attacks, makes me vomit and it takes me about 12 hours to get over the tiredness. And I was still in pain! I had to ask the dr at the hospital to stop giving to me.

welshweasel · 11/08/2016 19:30

Yeah tramadol wasn't great for me. I take oxycodone, which works really quickly (within 15mins) and renders me fairly useless but lets me sleep and doesn't leave me with a hangover effect in the morning like codeine does. Wonderful stuff.

OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 11/08/2016 19:42

Ok. So I'm going to try feminax ultra for my next period, possibly with codeine (googling this now).

Alo will try to sort things out with the practce manager so I at least get the tramadol at my appointment. And then leave the bastard surgery. Then to the surgery with great GPs but guarded by fearsome dragons receptionists.

Weird thing is, this GP was very proactive about getting me referred when I suggested assessment for ASD might be an idea. I suppose it's because he is very keen to see me as "other".

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OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 11/08/2016 19:43

Oh, and I will bear in mind oxycodone for future reference.

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Morasssassafras · 11/08/2016 19:49

Honestly if your period is due any day then try taking ibuprofen or the feminax ultra (I think that was the one - naproxen anyway) regularly from now till the worst is over. They work differently to paracetamol etc and will work better if they are in your system 24 hours before the pain starts. You can also take paracetamol and codeine (or tramadol) alongside so you can space doses so you are always as covered as possible.

For the record I find codeine to be far more addictive than tramadol for me but I think that's because I get a 'high' with codeine that I never get with tramadol. Every new doctor I see trys to get me to swap the tramadol for codeine so get used to telling them who recommended that you take it (consultant trumps gp).

exWifebeginsat40 · 11/08/2016 19:57

jesus, don't go to the GP and ask for oxycodone, if they're balking at Tramadol. you really will run the risk of them thinking you a drug seeker.

i've been on Tramadol for 18 months now and i can only just have it on repeat. it's a scheduled drug and they are very careful with it.

i take 800mg a day and it doesn't always get on top of the pain. next stop is pain clinic - has anyone suggested a referral there?

OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 12/08/2016 00:11

I don't understand why they think I'm a drug seeker when I was prescibed a load of codeine and it lasted me over a year! I'm obviously not abusing it! (Unlike male ex who kept getting repeats from the same surgery Hmm).

ExWife Grin It's ok I wasn't going to waltz in and ask for it! Not without looking it up and stuff first, if it's that strong perhaps not!

Moras Unfortunately my period isn't quite regular enough to do that (seems to be same reason mefanemic acid didn't work). Still going to try feminax ultra and see what happens. Tbh I don't think the codeine is actually working anymore - last period it really felt like it was just the head wooziness that helped deal with the pain, not actually lessening it.

I am trying not to care now, because somehow I feel that is a victory for the GP.

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sashh · 12/08/2016 06:17

However, I'm not sure if they are in theory supposed to work together in a way that is better than a higher dose of codeine alone..?

As a doctor said to me once, "We think of paracetamol as a mild pain killer but taken with others it is really good and quite strong"

I take cocodamol - industrial strength and tramadol - but for different reasons.

OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 24/08/2016 16:14

Well I've just been back. After enduring another agonising period without adequate pain relief.

I had a chaperone for the appointment. He refused to prescribe tramadol and said he would obly give me codeine and mefanaemic acid. He doen't care that they aren't working.

His crappy excuse was that the letter that recommends tramadol was written by a registrar not the consultant himself.

I walked out.

Shaking now. I dont know how to go on with horrible men exerting power and not caring all over the place.

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OnceThereWasThisGirlWho · 24/08/2016 16:21

I've contacted the consultants office, they're getting on to it.

Just feel so frustrated about this.

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