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MMR vaccine and autism

48 replies

BettyBleue · 14/04/2016 23:04

Hi, I'm feeling a bit anxious about my DD having the MMR jab in a few months. Robert de Niro has sparked a fresh debate, saying he believed it caused his son to have autism. I have heard stories from other parents who said their child became autistic after having the jab. I know that medical professionals are saying it there is no link, but I still have a seed of doubt in my mind. Robert De Niro was saying that he believes there is something in the vaccine that some children react to, that causes them to develop autism. Is this vaccine completely safe or should I be worried? Thank you.

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GreenMarkerPen · 24/04/2016 14:51

I have decided for the combined mmr.
first: it's readily available
second: it's extremely well studies and quite safe
third: I would hate to have my dc pricked 2x3 times instead of just twice.
the single vaccines are not as easily available (if at all!), are not as well studied, sometimes use different strains.

Imnotacelebgetmeouttahere · 24/04/2016 15:03

The difficulty is that signs of autism can generally become more apparent at a similar age to when the MMR is given ... Thus sparking a " they were fine before" theory. I would < and have > chose to vaccinate my DC because the risks of the damage caused by these diseases is far greater in my opinion.

As an aside - all mine have been vaccinated - 2 have autism and 2 don't..

howtorebuild · 24/04/2016 15:10

I am all it on this. I believe there is research showing some people are born with different neurology which is passed through generations, though not all will be dx.

There may be change caused by vaccine and evidence available that has been legally hidden. I know there is a HPV vaccine class action lawsuit on going and anyone going ahead had to sign to agree to not release the evidence to the public. This leads me to question if there may be something to the rumours about MMR and autism.

weirdsister · 24/04/2016 15:16

OP - healthcare triage have made some excellent videos about the research into autism and mmr (look on youtube).

LittleMuffinBabyboy · 24/04/2016 15:24

Thank you ladies, this is of great help as have been feleing really bad about this whole thing. I have also started a new thread as thought my message would not be easily found so apologies for any repetitions.
Weirdsister thanks for the suggestion, will look it up.
Howtorebuild, this worries me even more, hope it would not be the case with any vaccine we give our children. Although I started reading AMerican threads on the MMR etc and it is really hard to discern the scientific websites from the antivax movement.
GreenMarkerPen and Imnotacelebgetmeouttahere - thanks for your encouragement xx

SophieofShepherdsBush · 19/05/2016 11:04

I've just seen some more hoo-ha about this film on my CV news feed and I feel quite angry about it, I don't quite know why! Apparently the vaccine pushers have managed to get the fim banned, and therefore proven to all that there must be truth in the film. Why is this making me so cross? I can't rationalise it, but it's the same feeling I get when talking about homeopathy......

SophieofShepherdsBush · 19/05/2016 11:05

CV= fb

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 19/05/2016 11:09

The film hasn't been banned Sophie. De Niro decided not to show it at his film festival, and I'm not sure of its appeal to the big cinema chains, but it certainly hasn't been banned.

SophieofShepherdsBush · 19/05/2016 11:15

Ok oh, just sensationalist Facebook reporting then.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 19/05/2016 11:16

My daughter regressed overnight but it was well over a year since her MMR. It happens and usually around MMR time even if kids dont have the jab.

CheeseAndSprinkleys · 19/05/2016 11:19

When dc1 was born there was a lot in the media About the MMR and autism so we gave him single jabs. Five years later he was diagnosed with autism.

When it came to dc2 we gave him the MMR, he also has autism.

No link in my opinion.

Titsywoo · 19/05/2016 11:26

My DS is autistic. He had the MMR late at 5. He showed signs of autism from about 3 and was diagnosed at 8 (high functioning and not 'obvious' so it took a while). There is no link.

SophieofShepherdsBush · 19/05/2016 11:34

I think what upsets me is the implication raised by these antiva x theories that had I been more questioning and less of a sheep that I could have prevented my ds having autism. Even though he was showing red flag signs from a very young age, well before he had the MMR and I know it didn't cause his autism.

dizzytomato · 19/05/2016 12:00

This old biscuit again. I thought this had died a death.

You don't 'become' autistic

THIS 100%. Talk to any parent and they will tell you there were signs they didn't spot or that didn't mean anything at the time, but now make sense.

SophieofShepherdsBush · 19/05/2016 12:22

Oh I'm just a bit disappointed in old Robert d n . I thought he had more sense!

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 19/05/2016 12:58

Wakefield is going down well in the States Sophie, and he's behind this film. I don't pretend to know what Robert DN's motives were in either programming the film or taking it off again, but there was a huge anti-Wakefield backlash when it was announced.

DaintyHippo · 19/05/2016 13:06

My DD has autism, she had the vaccine (6 months late for separate reason) and there was no change after it, she was clearly developing different to other baby's from when she was tiny.

DC2 will be having all vaccines and I haven't got the slightest concern about the MMR causing autism.

DaintyHippo · 19/05/2016 13:07

My DD has autism, she had the vaccine (6 months late for separate reason) and there was no change after it, she was clearly developing different to other baby's from when she was tiny.

DC2 will be having all vaccines and I haven't got the slightest concern about the MMR causing autism.

ThatsMyStapler · 19/05/2016 13:08

Wakefield is a wanker through and through for the pain and anguish he has put families through

"Andrew Jeremy Wakefield (born c. 1957) is a British former gastroenterologist and medical researcher, known for his fraudulent 1998 research paper in support of the now-discredited claim that there was a link between the administration of the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine, and the appearance of autism and bowel disease."

"The authors noted that the parents of eight of the twelve children linked what were described as "behavioural symptoms" with MMR, and reported that the onset of these symptoms began within two weeks of MMR vaccination"

You dont conduct a trial by using children at a kids party!

The Oscar winner said his wife believed Elliot had changed overnight after having a vaccine, and that numerous other parents felt guilt over the fact that vaccines may have harmed their children.

Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said such comments by someone as respected as De Niro's do an "enormous disservice" to parents.

"Robert De Niro has a child with autism, so he wonders fairly whether vaccines could cause it," he says. "That's an answerable question, and it has been answered."

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 19/05/2016 13:27

Wakefield is a wanker through and through

Couldn't have put it better myself. Total wanker, still being a wanker.

StickTheDMWhereTheSunDontShine · 19/05/2016 13:35

Robert Di Nero's waiting,
Talki-ing bullshiit...

Arfarfanarf · 19/05/2016 13:35

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LittleMuffinBabyboy · 19/05/2016 18:03

Thanks all for all your comments, we ended up having to delay the vaccine ad DS came down with a temperature and we finally got it dine the other day. I was so upset when to see him ill that I realized how silly I have been to stress over this and for such a long time. I guess it's all down to the fact that I am a first time mum and at times feel the pressure of having to make the right decisions and feeling responsible for him. Thanks again for all your support, I feel much better now xx

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