Calorie Restriction - creepy article in today's Observer

[JinglePrunes]

Here.

Something about it gave me a chill.

or talking about how they converted their house into a minimialist, polished concrete haven that the children really love (when they're not being admitted to casualty).

just pass me the crisps and wine....

This week iirc there were 750 pages of things the beauty editors and various other 12-year olds would like for christmas. Lipstick diamante and the like.
FFS
It really is possible to be a woman and not be into this shit...isn't it??

I was moaning about this with my sister today actually, that everyone but everyone thinks 1. you want to hear about their diet and that 2. you are interested in losing weight.
went to a party yesterday where someone insisted on telling me about the relative GI wotsits of all the freaking canapes.
then said "oh it only took me four months to lose the weight, you should try it"
In an attempt to avoid stabbing her for her rudeness I laughingly said, oh well I might think about it if it took four hours. and she said well if it comes off quickly it will go straight back on!
O why don't you f right off you humourless bitch.
I didn't say, sadly, for fearing of ruining my friend's 70th

I have a friend doing this, so not news to me. I think the key thing is that this is meant to be a calorie-restricted optimal nutrition diet - so no "empty" calories, definitely not starvation diet. Friend is a doctor very interested in public health but a bit eccentric - for example we went hiking once, he'd worked out that olive oil had the most calories per gram and bought a large bottle along supposedly to save weight (ignoring the fact that he now had a big glass bottle in his pack). Anyway he has been doing CRON for a few years now and it really does seem to have made a difference to his health - he looks young for his age (albeit skinny), has lots of energy etc etc. But also feels the cold and has noticed the effect on his libido! Some of this is partly to the fact that he eats a lot of very healthy food - nuts, seeds, blueberries, oily fish - but I think the low calorie intake has also contributed. On the meal front, he just cooked a huge batch of vege stew and froze portions, and was not really obsessive on calorie counting but just cutting out whole food classes e.g. carbs, sugar (not even a banana) and eating loads of salad type veg. Personally I think the hunger thing would be hard to get over - you really do feel hungry all the time, you wake up hungry as well. Agree that it is only for the really strong-willed.

yes its extreme but probably on the right path to a healthy life. We all eat too much fgs

There was an interesting aside on Start the Week this morning where it was noted that given today's healthy diets (on the whole) the average age of commencement of menstruation has come down to the point at which menstruation normally started in hunter-gather times about 200,000 years ago...

It's 800 calories a day these people eat, not 1800. The journalist had gone down to 1800 and I think was still over weight but the real practitioners aim for about 800, the key thing being to get all the vitamins, proteins etc you need in that so it's a very hard to get right 800 calories.

God harpsichordcarrier I love your Christmas name
Makes me come over all gospel inside

I hate being hungry.

Sophable - WW isn't as weird as this diet.

florence was that good for the sex drive or bad impact?

I don't think it is 800 calories surely? I think it is meant to be around 2/3 or 3/4 of normal intake. Anyway, it definitely lowered sex drive (although as noted rats on this diet were sexually active for longer than would have been the case albeit perhaps not as active).

I've said it before, but hunger is so bad for you! It eats your brain and destroys your life! Really! I agree about the Observer - bunch of smug gits.