Please, please help. I am at my wit's end with this nappy rash

[kittywits]

My dd3 has had an ongoing prob with very runny poos and horrendous nappy rash.

We have been to the dr's twice and have been given all these lotions and potions and a poo sample has been sent off for analysis. She poos so frequently, a least every half an hour that her poor bottom is now red raw and bleeding and I am facing ANOTHER night of agonisong screaming whenever she poos or wees and watching the sore patch get worse and worse.
The real problem is that I desperately need to find something that acts as an effectiver barrier to these acidic poos. Barrier creams don't work, I have tried the lot, the medication doesn't stay on long enough to be effective because I have to wipe it off to clean the poo.
I am now getting to the end of my tether and losing my trust in the dr's who keep giving me stuff that makes no difference abd in the meantine she suffers more and more .

There must be SOMETHING that will protect her skin.
I was thinking in desperation of buying those spray on plasters
Please help

Really thick layer of vaseline?? how old is she? Is it at all feasable to lie her on the nappy, but leave it flat underneath her? - or is the poo coming out at top speed and going a long way? When the nappy is fastened the poo squishes into every nook and cranny IYSWIM. Obviously though if it is jet propelled you will have to contain it within the nappy. It is a horrendous situation to deal with - nobody gets any rest.

Metanium always works with my DS2 who often suffers this way, although I'm guessing you've tried this already? I wipe away the poo then wash with water and pat dry with a muslin, then slather it all over.

Hope you get some more advice, sorry this probably isn't very helpful.

bepanthan always works well for us, more so than metanium.
best thing is to leave her nappy off for as much time as possible though

kitty - a friend of mine's ds has a similar problem 8the rash, not the pooing), in part due to intestinal difficulties/probs with digestion. She has had great success with a substance that acts as a second 'skin' on top of the rash, giving it chance to heal. I'm afraid I don't know what it's called, but you could ask your doc? Or I'll ask her.

Just them same advice, wash with warm water and a cloth, and apply a thick layer of sudocream, aqueous cream or other thick oily stuff. you will have to reapply each time you change her.

Wipes can really sting and baby soaps and lotions can irritate, Johnsons soap brought my DS out in a bad rash, much to the surprise of MIL.

Metanium very good, but must be applied thinly. Can be re-applied in between changes.

I'd avoid using wipes for the moment and just use cotton wool and water to wipe clean.

No wonder she's sore if she's pooing that frequently. Poor wee thing.

metanium. Really. It's not the same as all the other barrier creams. It's weird looking, smells odd but really really works.

every half hour? all day? how old is she? \is the doc looking into why she poo's so often/

what are you wiping her with? camomile tea and cotton wool very soothing. Have you tried diff napps in case they don't agree with her.

Shea butter maybe? very gentle and might be a good barrier while still letting it heal.

you need to find out why her poo is runny, try eliminating dairy/wheat/eggs/etc from her diet one at a time for a week each til you find out if one of them is causing it. constant diorrhea isn't normal and must be caused by something, its been going on for too long to be bug so a food intolerance is a quite likely cause. it's cows milk with my dd, she has exactly the same reaction as your dd, runny poo and bleeding blistered nappy rash. its horrendous

the best thing for the rash til you find out the cause is to be nappy free all the time in the house so it gets lots of air and a thick coat of vaseline when she has to have a nappy on. bepanthan is also quite good although seems to become less effective the longer you use it so maybe use it just for the nights?

good luck and {{{hugs}}} i've been there and its hidious watching them writh and scream

oh yes, we've used a camomile cream on ds before (nowhere near as bad as your dd), pretty effective.

how old is your dd?
the nppy rsh will get cured when you cure the acidic poos. nothing else will fix the problem..
ds2 had this problem. from 3 weeks tooo 11 weeks old he had twwo red raww bleeding areas along his anus. wass horrible. he was getting through 30 to 40 nappies a dy. his tummy problem was cured by camomilla drops. a homeopathic medicine prescribed by a homeopathic doctor.
to make sure his skin didnt get infected, i stopped useing wipes. stopped using cotton wool and wter, and would just stick his bum under the tap, and pat dry.
lots of luck

FIT please do ask, that's the sort of thing she needs.
She is 10 months and walking, so changing is a nightmare as she runs of at top speed screaming. The creams go everywhere, the poo goes everywhere.
I've left her nappy off for long periods and now our carpets are covered in poo stains, it just dribbles out and I try to catch as much as I can.
It makes me want to weep, I feel so tried and desperate

oh, i forgot to say, oatmeal baths work wonders for soothing dd's skin too. tie some porrige oats up in a muslin and run under the tap when your filling the bath and bath her in thet without any soaps and stuff. and like others have said, leave of the wipes and just use soft cloths and water

10 months and walking wow - bet you are exhausted!

Will do - hope she gets back to me soon. Think she had trouble getting hold of it herself.

kitty, dont lose hope.
get the tummy problem sorted first.
a herbal thing tht my mum used with us, and i hve used with all my kids, very effectively is to give them a teaa made from fennel sseeds and mint. with some sugar or honey in it to convince them to drink it. works brilliantly on dirhoea
if she is 10 months old, cut out all milk, unless breastfeeding. food wise, stick with plain bolied rice. toast. bananas. very very simple stuff.
remember, its the tummy you need to cure in order to cure the rash

Thankyou everyone. Do you think I should try some soya formula?
It's so difficult because the other children are suffering now and are getting distessed by the screaming and the amount of my time it takes up.

Uh oh, she's started again, best go and change her.

i personally wouldnt start her on soya formula. her poor tummy has enough to del with without giving it anything new.
stick to plain foods

Stitch, do you steep the fennel and mint? What are the quantities?

I would give plain water only for 24 hours just to let her system empty. The normal gastrocolic reflex goes into overdrive when little children have diarrhoea and every time anything goes in the top end, there is a massive reaction at the bottom end. Maybe a break from any sort of food will break the cycle and allow her gut to settle down?

yes, i think steep is the word.
quntities, errrr, just bung in bout a teaspoonful of fennel seeds, nd some mint leaves........
i do it the lazy way, which is to stick mug of wter withthe fennel and mint in the microwave for two minutes, then dilute it down to cool it down quickly. and if i dont have mint, i ddo it with just the fennel

my dd gets horrible nappy rash when she is fed weetabix. readybrek (also wheat) doesn't do it. i would go along the line of feeding her some simple foods as someone else suggested. oatmeal is a good bet. mainly because of its soothing qualities to skin. if you don't bf, i would give her some acidophilus to build up her bowel flora. holland and barretts make a strawberry flavoured one in tablet form that you could half and crush.

unless she had recently had a vomiting/diarreah bout, i don't think she would suddenly develop a milk allergy.

Yes, it makes sense that I should cut out milk and give very plain food for 24 hours, it won't do any harm will it?
As it is the poo that I have just cleared looks like curdled milk, sorry if tmi. I'll do an oatmeal bath and go and get some fennel seeds. You are right , if I could just stop the poo for a while it would give her poor bum a chnace to heal a bit.

if you are going to stop milk for a while, can i suggest getting some diarolyte(sp?) too? it will keep her hydrated - if she drinks the stuff.

Boil up some Pearl Barley until it is soft. You will need to keep adding water. Drain off & cool the liquid. Offer liquid once it has cooled to your dd3. It will help neutralise the system and bring the acidity of the wee/poo down.

You can keep the liquid (in the fridge) for 2/3 days. You will get sediment on the bottom, just give it a good shake.

Also offer the boiled water from veg, acts in much the same way. This along with any other advice given should help.

I found Fuller's Earth Cream really effecive when my dd suffered.