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4-year-old girl with very sore bottom / genitals ...

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imaginaryfriend · 13/11/2006 13:07

My poor little dd has been really sore for a good few days now, it's left her in tears most of the weekend.

Her bottom is literally red raw around the anus out to a 50p piece size a guess, then the skin along the outside of her labia is also affected.

I've been cleaning her with cotton wool and cold water and putting Sudocreme on to cool it down but it's having no effect.

Any suggestions here? Or do we need to take a trip to the GP?

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foxinsocks · 13/11/2006 15:13

yes drag her to the GP. We have an ongoing problem with dd and her sore vagina - GP gave us canestan H (which is canestan but with added hydrocortisone for the inflamation) but admitted they had no idea what it was (rather usefully).

There are so many things it could be, it's probably better to get it properly seen to (because you don't want her holding onto her wee if it gets really sore). And I agree with everyone re taking tights off - also make sure her underwear is 100% cotton and there's no soap/bubbles in the bath in the meantime.

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imaginaryfriend · 13/11/2006 15:19

fox, she's got some eczema so we never use soap or bubbles and always go for cotton. She also frequently seems to get sore but this is really quite extreme to look at. Has the Canesten HC helped your dd? How old is she?

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foxinsocks · 13/11/2006 15:49

dd is 6. It helped her initially but never got rid of the problem. I spoke to a friend of mine (who happens to be a GP) who said she thinks dd needs antibiotic cream because she thinks it is possibly a bacterial skin infection because it has now gone on for months.

janinlondon · 13/11/2006 15:53

IF - if tights are aggravating the problem, you could try over the knee socks from M&S?

mummycan · 13/11/2006 15:57

If - yes you can get it in Boots - it comes in a tub or a tube - the tube/tub is white but the cream inside is pink.

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imaginaryfriend · 13/11/2006 16:11

fox, when dd's eczema has got infected she's had a very good antibiotic cream called Fucidin which has worked really quickly.

jan, tights aren't a major problem, she lives in trousers when not at school and I can also send her to school in trousers.

mummycan, I'll pick up some of that cream tonight, thanks for the tip.

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Elibean · 13/11/2006 16:23

I'm guessing you've tried Fucidin already, IF? It is good stuff, my dh has used it and my dd too, when her eczema got infected. Hmm, interesting that your dd, my dd, and Fox's dd all have eczema to one extent or another, and are all susceptible to sore genitals/anus...wonder if the eczema originally makes them scratch, then the scratches get infected??
dd's flares up when she is under the weather, has eaten too much sugary stuff, etc.
IF, hope the cream helps your dd tonight - I think bright red and raw can be thrush, btw: nto saying it is, but thrush isn't always itchy. Once it takes hold, it can really hurt - and look very red.

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imaginaryfriend · 13/11/2006 21:20

Elibean, I haven't tried the fucidin on her bottom actually. I think I'll get her to the GP tomorrow and see what happens then. Yes it is interesting the eczema / sore bottom connection. Dd's eczema has definitely got infected when she's scratched it before. She's way too sore to scratch her bottom though.

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7up · 14/11/2006 08:12

hows dd this morning?

foxinsocks · 14/11/2006 09:26

let us know what the doc says IF (hope you are feeling OK aswell at the moment!)

We've had fucidin before (for another skin infection) - it's funny you mention the eating thing Elibean because dd has now said she has a sore tummy aswell so I'm now wondering whether it's an allergy (they pretty much ruled out a urine infection the last time I took her).

I'll see if it carries on for a few more days and then I suppose I'll have to go back to the GP (again!).

Elibean · 14/11/2006 10:41

Poor little girls! Hope today brings relief, post gp IF...let us know what happens. Fox, does your dd's soreness come and go? If so, it might be related to eczema and/or food allergies? My own dd's is pretty mild - not been more than a minor nuisance so far, but definitely she gets more eczema-ish when she eats a lot of sweet stuff (ie Halloween, birthday party) or gets a cold or other viral illness. And that seems to include labia, and a little bit around anus/vaginal opening.

foxinsocks · 14/11/2006 10:46

yes it comes and goes. This bout has been with us (on and off) for months and months now (poor child). I had to go and speak to her teacher because she was scratching so much.

Would you mind if I asked a graphic question? Dd is itchy/red (but not bright red) and swollen on the inside of her labia (and sort of lumpy bumpy) - is that where your dd's get sore?

I so hope it isn't more allergies. I was really hoping we had put most of that behind us. I may cut out dairy (she had a dairy/egg/soya allergy till quite recently) and see what happens. Yes, I think it comes back when she is run down.

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imaginaryfriend · 14/11/2006 14:27

I've got an appointment with the GP for later this afternoon, so I'll let you know what she says.

It's less flame red this morning but still quite sore-looking. I wondered if it was clearing up by itself but I think I'll take her to check it out anyway.

Fox, what you've described as red with raised bumpiness sounds very like dd's rash, only at the moment it's extremely bad, particularly around the anal area. I don't know what makes her eczema flare up, I've tried really hard to pin it down to all kinds of things and never really managed it.

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foxinsocks · 14/11/2006 14:33

that canestan HC definitely helped with the redness but it leaves the bumpy bits (which I'm sure is what is causing the itching)

will be interested to hear how you get on - your poor dd

3littlefrogs · 14/11/2006 15:32

Tummyache plus sore bottom/genitals often equals threadworms, whether you can catch them in the torchbeam at night or not! Sometimes you don't see them, but it doesn't mean they are not there. I have treated my dd in the past when she has had soreness and discharge - instant overnight relief, but never saw the culprits.HTH

Elibean · 14/11/2006 15:59

Fox, no bumpiness on my dd.....sometimes obvious eczema-like pinkness on outer labia, and slightly-too-red inside, esp. at back bit of vaginal opening. Occasionally bit pink round her anus, too, but usually only after a hot bath - not sure if that counts.

I took the threadworm possibility on board and DID treat dd, but it was hard to tell if it had any effect on her itching or not: it wasn't severe enough to begin with, and it comes and goes anyway. And it certainly came back within a few days (2 or 3) of taking Ovex - which I'm sure is too fast for re-infestation with worms.

Since then, I've noticed she can go a week or two with no itching, then have a day or two of it - and it does always seem to coinicide with eczema flare ups on her face or arms, and/or a cold. Eczema can look bumpy on other areas, wonder if thats what the bumpiness is on IF and Fox's dds too?? Worms don't cause bumpiness, as far as I know...

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imaginaryfriend · 14/11/2006 19:06

I'm so annoyed. My GP was out on an emergency call and didn't make it back to the surgery , they've scheduled me in for 9.30am tomorrow morning but that will mean keeping her off school (she's only there 2.5 hours in the mornings). The thing is, it is looking better but definitely not totally cleared up. Not sure what to do ...

I think I'll give the worming tablets a try, nothing to lose is there?

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7up · 14/11/2006 19:18

oh god what a pain! id still take her incase it reappears another time and at least you'll know what it is. my ds has been crying most of the day and grabbing his crutch so im going to try and catch his wee in the potty and get it checked out for an infection.good luck

Elibean · 14/11/2006 21:06

IF, I'd still take her - very annoying, but probably worth it for peace of mind. And no, you don't have anything to lose with a dose of worm medicine - dd had no side effects whatsoever.

Mind you, weeks of dettolling, washing towels/sheets/underpants endlessly etc did take a toll on me - esp. at 32 weeks pg - and I still don't know if it was all for nothing or not

Elibean · 14/11/2006 21:06

7up, hope your ds feels better soon too - sounds painful.

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imaginaryfriend · 14/11/2006 21:09

I think I wouldn't mind getting dd's urine checked too, 7up.

I had a look tonight after dd's bath and it's definitely not angry flaming red any more, sort of pale red but covering the same area. She says it doesn't hurt as much today. But I'd still like to know what it was, and yes, I know it might flare up again, but I'm not sure about keeping her off school because of it. I might try to get her in again tomorrow afternoon. Or will I regret it ... decisions, decisions, I never can make them.

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mummycan · 14/11/2006 23:43

IF - how is your DD? Did you manage to get the drapolene?

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