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HPV vaccination - suspected adverse reactions research from Denmark

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KatieJK · 14/04/2015 16:05

I'm posting this because my daughter has POTS and autonomic dysfunction after having had the HPV vaccination - she has just about all of the symptoms listed in this published paper:

www.danmedj.dk/portal/page/portal/danmedj.dk/dmj_forside/PAST_ISSUE/2015/DMJ_2015_04/A5064

She became unwell shortly after having the first vaccination and then became much worse after having the second vaccination. The doctors agreed that she should not have the third vaccination.

When this documentary was shown in Denmark the TV company had calls from 40+ other possible cases. Each of the five regions in Denmark is having a centre set up so that the girls can be medically assessed.

In January there was a meeting of the All Party Parliamentary Group for Vaccine Damaged People that focused solely on the HPV vaccination and parents/girls that attended all reported very similar symptoms.

Please note I am not at all anti-vaccination - my children had all of their vaccinations and more (since we lived abroad for some time).

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KatieJK · 29/04/2015 12:01

Here is the link to the full documentary with English subtitles:

Please watch and consider this if your daughter is due for the vaccination. These reactions are rare, but they can happen. I wish we had known this before.

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DirtyBlonde · 02/05/2015 08:14

another thread has been started

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/vaccinations/2369222-Article-about-hpv-vaccine-in-Denmark

ragged · 02/05/2015 08:25

Is there a 2nd vaccination? DD's only been offered one.
DD says there was low key mass hysterics before the jab, she went around mothering everybody.

That health impacts site is well dodgy, I wouldn't trust a word they said about anything. Ebola manufactured as a conspiracy in the west to keep Africa down, anyone?

meditrina · 02/05/2015 08:29

It should be 2 doses (used to be three)

www.gov.uk/government/publications/schedule-change-from-3-to-2-doses-in-the-hpv-vaccination-programme

ragged · 02/05/2015 08:47

Ah, that explains why the Danish paper talks about 3 jabs.

Danish paper also says
Funding source is irrelevant (it's never irrelevant).
Calls the work a systematic review (it's not)
Mean age of symptom onset = 21 with range 12-39, so it usually takes a fair while after the jabs to develop.

Important thing to me is there's no controls, no analysis of long term trends or incidence in unvaccinated or overall prevalence, as authors put it. From what I read POTS was only first identified in 1993 so there's no long term trend of data to fall back on.

The underlying aetiology behind POTS is still somewhat elusive and the prevalence of POTS is most common in the same subset of the population that are receiving the HPV vaccine (young women) [13], which complicates the aetiological discussion. We found a close chronologic association to the vaccination, but are well aware that this does not necessarily imply a causal relationship.?

KatieJK · 03/05/2015 15:30

ragged - the video was posted on YouTube by the tv company that produced the documentary.

What the neurologists who wrote the Danish paper are saying is that they have seen an increase in girls presenting with a cluster of very similar symptoms that should be investigated to see if there is a link to the vaccination. They clearly say that they are in favour of the vaccination programme.

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HLCLeslie · 03/05/2015 22:25

Please read this speech made by the Countess of Mar in the House of Lords a few months ago where she expresses her concerns regarding the high number of side effects being reported for the hpv vaccination, not just in the UK but across the world www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?id=2015-01-20a.1278.2&s=speaker%3A12904#g1286.0

LoofahVanDross · 03/05/2015 22:31

My dd did not have the jab as it was very new and she would have been the first lot to have it. I had reservations, and from time to time I worry that I did the right thing. It is a horrible decision.

HLCLeslie · 03/05/2015 22:32

Please also read this Hansard record (scroll to 2.30pm) of a debate which took place in the House of Commons in March to propose a review of the vaccine damage payment scheme. Several MPs refer to girls in the UK who have suffered adverse reactions to the hpv vaccination and developed life-changing illness www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201415/cmhansrd/cm150324/halltext/150324h0001.htm

myangle · 10/05/2015 01:34

The hpv vaccine has been banned in together countries. There are a lot of talk regarding it at the moment.

Its featured in the "brought " documentary.you can also go to dr mercola website where you can find info and interviews with, doctorsand researchers who has spent consideranle amount of time on vaccines and how it effects the body as a whole.

myangle · 10/05/2015 01:49

If you haven't done so already please report any adverse reactions to your doctor. also fill out the yellow card system, so that the product can be reviewed if there are too many incidents happening and batches of the product can be monitored yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/

minpin · 04/10/2015 01:34

My daughter (previously fit and healthy) had the vaccine in January this year. She started having seizures 7 weeks later. It is very rare. But in my opinion, even one girl to become chronically ill, is not worth it, for a vaccine that has not been proven to work. I looked up the ONS website the other day... the incidence of new cervical cancers actually rose after the introduction of this vaccine, despite whatever spin the powers that be put on it, it rose.. .. Data has not been updated since 2011. I will regret her having this totally pointless vaccine for ever.

www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/vsob1/cancer-statistics-registrations--england--series-mb1-/no--42--2011/sty

Want2bSupermum · 04/10/2015 01:42

Well I think my obns approach speaks volumes about the vaccine. She said I could have had it here in the US 10 years ago when it first came out but said it wasn't something she would recommend or push because the best things you can do to reduce your risk of cervical cancer is to not smoke and not sleep with multiple partners. As I didn't fall in either category her opinion was that I was low risk anyway.

I had no idea those were the major risk factors and when I told my obn she said told me that women's health issues are so badly talked about in schools that she wasn't surprised at all. Thinking about it, I find it shocking we were taught how to put a condom on but not taught how to examine our breasts.

annandale · 04/10/2015 02:00

Yes, but putting a condom on protects women's health and is a life skill, whereas on current evidence breast self-examination has a really limited effect on breast cancer morbidity and is more likely to lead to over-treatment.

HLCLeslie · 08/10/2015 15:36

The report from the Danish Health Authorities to the European Medical Agency states that these illnesses being seen are appearing "more commonly with the hpv vaccine in comparison with other vaccines in this same population". Denmark has also announced that their vaccination programme will switch from using Gardasil (now used in the UK) to Cervarix (which was used in the UK up to 2012). Some doctors in Denmark arguing that similar levels of reactions are being reported to Cervarix. A report on Danish tv has estimated that figures are showing that approx 1 in 400 girls are experiencing these reactions. Link to news report here

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZCAFjLasf0

The reporters talk about the 5 hospital treatment centres which have been set up in Denmark. I understand that Sweden have also set up a treatment centre to help support the numbers of girls who are presenting with these symptoms (debilitating fatigue, long-lasting headaches, severe dizziness, nausea, pain). Some are bedbound and some are in wheelchairs. Please see this link to the EMA website which outlines the safety review being conducted into the hpv vaccine www.ema.europa.eu/ema/index.jsp?curl=pages/news_and_events/news/2015/07/news_detail_002365.jsp&mid=WC0b01ac058004d5c1

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 08/10/2015 15:39

My dd and I decided that she wouldn't have it.
Well that went down like a sack of shit.
The asst school nurse told her 'not to be so silly' and told her to sit down and roll up her sleeve.
All denied of course..:)

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 08/10/2015 15:40

I mean since when has it been schools' jobs to push undertested drugs onto teenagers? Who is it benefitting, other than the pharmaceutical companies?

cestlavielife · 08/10/2015 15:42

my youngest dd 13 had it no issues.

my older dd has not as she already has/had episodes of dizziness nausea (chronic migraine) - informed nurse who just said "fine, no problem i will take her name off list".

mudandmayhem01 · 08/10/2015 15:58

I am generally very pro vaccination, stuck with mmr right through the Wakefield controversy. My daughter is 11 and for the first time in my life I am considering not letting her have this jab. Would really like to see some comments from people with medical/ scientific qualification on this. My dad was a gp and greatly reassured me through mme. He sadly died 5 years ago and I miss his objective, scientific mind( amongst many other things)

mudandmayhem01 · 08/10/2015 16:01

I am generally very pro vaccination, stuck with mmr right through the Wakefield controversy. My daughter is 11 and for the first time in my life I am considering not letting her have this jab. Would really like to see some comments from people with medical/ scientific qualification on this. My dad was a gp and greatly reassured me through mme. He sadly died 5 years ago and I miss his objective, scientific mind( amongst many other things)

Marbleslostthem · 08/10/2015 16:06

Thank you for posting.

LisbethSalandersLaptop · 08/10/2015 16:10

I was always pro vax too mudandmayhem, we had the lot.
But something about this one made me put my foot down.

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