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Had 1st session with osteopath today

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Thomcat · 07/04/2004 14:58

boy do I feel weird!

Went at 9 am this morning.

He said I have, and this is in my own words now mostly!

Two bones, bottom end of spine that are locked and therefore throwing pelvis out

6 detached ribs

crushed nerve in neck

he did some (his words) heavey work on me today and said I would feel tired.

Jesus, I really ache now and feel shattered and a bit weird.

i'm drinking lots of water but just can't wait to get our of work and go home and have a bath and crawl into my bed.

Going back to see him next week

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Codswallop · 07/04/2004 14:58

and what pants did you wear?

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Thomcat · 07/04/2004 15:09

Luckily little white lace panties and matching bra!!! He had lovely eys, took my bra off and put his hand down my knickers! Can't wait to tell D that someone did that to me this morning!

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Codswallop · 07/04/2004 15:10

it is weird isnt it?

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Thomcat · 07/04/2004 15:25

really weird. Didn't think I'd feel like this.

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marthamoo · 07/04/2004 15:26

I've been advised to go. Can't you keep your clothes on?

marthamoo · 07/04/2004 15:27

Don't want to get naked in public

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Thomcat · 07/04/2004 15:43

No, clothes OFF. I got to keep my knickers on but he had to put his hand down there a bit and also had to sort of hold his fist right 'there' to see if I felt any pain in my pubic bone. He also slipped them down quite far whilke he was ending the session with a massage.

Bra was on and off about 5 times and he had to push his hand into me all around each breast.

So pleased I went though, can't wiait to be in less pain than I have been.

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Philly · 07/04/2004 16:11

I have been going to the osteopath for a couple of years now on and off,mostly lower back pain and pelvic pain(due partly to ds2 not walking until 19 months)I HAVE NEVER BEEN ASKED TO TAKE OFF MY UNDERWEAR!and there have never been any straying hands like this.
The osteopath I go to is part of a reputable large practice and he also gave me (I was not sure about this) accupuncture for the pelvic pain and the results were amazing.
I have quite a few friends (including MIL) who alsovisit various osteopaths and no one has ever reported having to take off underwear,I am not a prude and quite frankly was so desparate for pain relief I would probably not have batted an eyelid but in the cold light of day now ,I would be concerned.Did he give you advise on how to mitigater the afterpain eg using alternate hot amd cold compresses and soem appropriate excercises.

Freckle · 07/04/2004 16:18

I'm with Philly. I have been to a number of ostepaths for back pain and because of SPD during pregnancy. At no time was I ever asked to remove my bra or knickers and, if anything needed to be done "down there", it was done through the knickers.

Where did you find this chap? I would suggest that you might like to ask for a chaperone if you decide to go back again.

tamum · 07/04/2004 16:21

Yes, I hate to be alarmist Thomcat, but I'm with Philly on this one. I went to an osteopath a couple of times and remained almost fully clothed. It does sound a bit invasive to me, but I guess it depends on whether you felt OK about it, I may be misjudging.

Easy · 07/04/2004 16:23

TC,
He does seem to have been erm... very thorough in his treatment of you, I'd be tempted to take someone with you next time too.

You will feel tired. They say (my chiropractor says this) that the treatments release some sort of chemical which makes you sleepy. Don't know how I'd cope going on to do a day's work after a session.

Hope it starts to give results very soon.

motherinferior · 07/04/2004 16:31

I'm having osteo for my SPD and it does seem to be working.

I have to say I've not had to take my pants off either. And given that my complaint is specifically pelvic...

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Thomcat · 07/04/2004 16:42

Where did you all read that I had to take my pamts off??

He asked me to slip my bra down and he had to then move it a bit so i said shall i just take it off and he said 'if you don't mind'.

he did also make sure before he did anything that he would need to move the bra down and would I prefer to see his female colleauge to which I said no it was fine.

The kinicker thing was him having to push down on my pelvic bone fromt he front.

The breast thing was to fell for the tob ribs that have become detached.

I didn't feel awkward or uncomfortable with anything he did, honestly i didn't.

He did talk about doing the hot and cold things yes, told me i'd feel tired and said that on our next session he's suggest exercises and that i'd have to start swimming as well.

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Freckle · 07/04/2004 16:44

I didn't think you'd had to take your knickers off, but that he'd put his hand inside them to locate the part he wanted. My osteopaths have always done this from the outside of the knickers.

stace · 07/04/2004 16:45

also had osteopathy for congenital back problems and more recently for spd and have never been asked to take my undies off nor has anyone ever put their hands on my pubes etc. Are you having us on?????

Or are you so gorgeous he couldnt resist and Im just an ugly fat flabby mum

Also if your not having a laugh by your description i would wonder what your 6 ribs are detached from and what has crushed your neck nerve it all sounds either hilarious or very suspect!!!

stace · 07/04/2004 16:48

Thomcat my specialist told me to be really careful with swimming as you will be stretching the ligaments that are already really lose only do flippy leg movements dont split your legs.

Are you post or pre natal and has this guy got specific knowledge of spd as i was severely warned against any excercise that splits the legs too wide, including some yoga and pilates movements.

Hope youre not offended by us sceptics

Easy · 07/04/2004 16:51

TC,

Perhaps we're all just scardy-cats, assuming perverts lurk round every corner.

My dh has 2 ribs which become mis-aligned sometimes (I assume the same as detatched). Very uncomfortable, and quickly relieved.

Swimming good, just about everyone should. Have you and D tried Lottie swimming yet?

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Thomcat · 07/04/2004 17:02

I'm not having anyone on about anything Stace, honestly, not about anything I've said, I wouldn't do that.

He was a young relaxed guy and I think I was so relaxed with him that he didn't feel awkward about being hands on. His hand didn't go all the way down, just under the top of my knickers andpushed down in 3 places on my pubic bone. Maybe he could have done it from the outside but it diodn't feel wrong or anything.
Then he sort of pushed his fist on me down there, but that was done outside the knickers.

The detached ribs ar also known as floating ribs and he said it's really common, just not that common to have 6 'floating' ribs, but common all the same and easily corrected.

lotie was born 2 years ago and still doesn't walk or stand so most of pain down to picking her up and carrying her around. He sdaid we'd discuss the swimming and exercises next time I saw him.

I'm not at all offended by anyone at all, don't worry, just a bit surprised at the reactions. It's my first time and you girls have all such different things to say.

Did none of you get undressed at all. Did none of you have to have you bra slipped down while he looked at your back or manipulated your chest/ribcage, baring in mind i've have 6 ribs that are out/detached/ floating?

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Easy · 07/04/2004 17:05

I undress down to undies for my Chiroprator (very similar to osteopathy), and slip bra straps down when he does my shoulders. Never been inside my pants tho'

stace · 07/04/2004 17:08

Have been seeing the same male osteo on an off for years for lower back problems and he just squishes my bra up at the backif he needs to do manipulation on the back but most of the time i lie on my back and he crosses my arms and then kind of pushes down on me until something goes click a couple of times.

Second osteo woman for spd pulled trackie bottoms down to pub area and she did all manipulation from there,

Heh you know what if you werent worried about it and it seemed ok dont worry it probably was ok. It is probably more to do with the ease of misinterpretting the written word which seems to happen here from time to time.

Dont worry hon,

tamum · 07/04/2004 17:10

I can't quite remember TC, I think I was in a t-shirt and maybe knickers, but there was no groin pushing or bra-slipping-off. I really didn't want to make you feel uncomfortable, only you can judge whether it seemed appropriate or not, but I was just a bit startled by some of the things you wrote. It wouldn't have seemed right not to say anything. Hope it really helps, however it's done.

BTW saw on another thread about the emails from Eve, which sounds lovely. There was a very bleak article about Down's in Red this month which was a real shame, I thought, especially compared with yours.

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Thomcat · 07/04/2004 17:18

No girls, it's all good and thank you for being concerned and saying something, I really appreciate it.

Might make my mum meet me there next time, just to see if he's any different with me, then I'll know.
He really didn't feel weird or anything, was just a really pleasant young man chatted away happily to me and we discussed me trying to get his girlfriend a job in PR. Perhaps he shouldn't have gone just inside the knickers to push on the pubic bone but I was so relaxed with him.

I've been on the internet since this discussion with you all and can't see anything about detached ribs. Mis-aligned like you say Easy but not detached. will ask him more next week and ask him to write it all down.

Thanks agin for all picking up on some of the things I said, I'm not worried though, i'm quite 'street' and really think if he was being inappropriate i would know, maybe not, but I feel in my heart that I'd just sense that something wasn't right and would feel uncomfortable and that's not how it was so...

However I will bear all the things you said in mind and thank you for them. I'll just have them in mind when I see him again and be ready to knee him in the groin I think he's being dodgy.

For now though I shall enjoy the new pain that I know is going to make me feel better soon and look forward to a lavander bath and bed

You're all great

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SoupDragon · 07/04/2004 17:44

The most I've had in my many osteopath appointments is the osteopath unfastening my bra whilst I'm lying on my front. All my problems are lower back though so there's no reason to go near my rig cage/breasts. Very strange about not feeling through your knickers - I find that very odd indeed, but if you didn't feel uncomfortable then OK.

I always used to feel like I'd been 10 rounds with Tyson the day after my treatments It's always been worth it though.

Re swimming, you should only do front crawl as breaststroke puts strain on your back apparently.

Codswallop · 07/04/2004 18:07

No inderwear off with me

I mean it stays on
he had a gown as well which was good for me when pg

Codswallop · 07/04/2004 18:08

stace mine squishes me

or did

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