You know how everyone knows a lifelong smoker

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who lived to be 90+, does anyone know someone who was obese all (or most of) their life and lived to a ripe old age?

I can't think of anyone but I know lots who died young

No. I have four life long smokers in my family - my day's parents, they died at 90 and 92 of heart failure, my dad who is 78, my mum who is 74.

None obese, though.

My granny was a heavy smoker until 70ish, and obese from 60 until she died 85. Was very thin in her 20s 30s then gradually put on weight in 40s, overweight in 50s then finally obese in 60s.

She lived until 85 but the rest of her family who stayed slim are still going in their late 90s so.....

I don't know any life long smokers at all.

I don't know anyone who is long term obese. Yet. I reckon my brothers could be heading that way.

My nan. 89, 40 dunhill a day

I don't know any old lifelong smokers at all. The biggest lifelong smoker I knew was my dad, who died of lung cancer at the age of 52.

I don't know any obese people who lived to be a very old age either.

Do you mean obese smokers or just obese? My great grandad was a huge man and lived until his mid 80s.

You don't really see a lot of old obese people do you...?

My 99 yrs old grandmother, a smoker, is still alive. But i don't know any obese person. Not an old one, no.

I meant just obese.

It was another thread that got me thinking (sorry)

We've reached a point where smokers are vilified for the stupidity of deliberately damaging their own health and yet it's not PC at all the criticise someone for being overweight - people are often outraged when their doctor suggests they need to lose weight, nobody would feel that way if their GP told them they needed to stop smoking. When in actual fact, being overweight is just as damaging and in most cases self-inflicted. Yes, of course it's not easy to change but the same applies to smoking.

With smoking, it seems to me, it is still the luck of the draw. Some smokers die young from smoking related illness but many don't.

I genuinely can't think of an obese person from my life, or a celebrity, who has lived well into old age.

My grandad was probably classed as clinically obese but not enormously so - not up to morbid obesity level, anyway. He died aged 90, of a ruptured gallbladder and complications from that.

I know he's not a celebrity, but Cyril Smith was a pretty large bloke and he was 82 when he died.
Les Dawson wasn't exactly skinny either, he was

Bugger, meant to take out Les Dawson because he was only 62 when he died so hardly "well into old age".
Just pressed the wrong set of buttons idiot!

Yes, I was wondering Thumb - I'll grant to Cyril Smith but LD kind of proves the point! (although he was a heavy smoker too)

I've an uncle built like Cyril Smith. He's about eighty now. He has diabetes which has affected his kidneys, eyes, circulation and pretty much his entire body. He has ulcerated legs and a catheter.

He lives alone after his wife of fifty years committed suicide in total despair after caring for him alone for about twenty years.

He was a very unpleasant and controlling man and probably still is, though I wouldn't wish his life on my worst enemy. He has carers four times a day plus the nurse twice a day. That's about it. His two children do their best but aren't local. The house is a sordid dump.

That's the life of the lifelong person I know.

Sorry, the life of the lifelong obese person I know.

My great uncle lived to be 92 having smoked from the age of 9. Unfortunately he had a serious stroke aged 72 and lived the last 20 years of his life in a wheelchair, unable to walk, communicate properly or do very much at all. He still, however, insisted on smoking. His wife would hold the fags to his mouth.

Not worth it in my opinion.

Yup. Dh's grandmother. She is in her nineties and has been obese all her life.

My Nan would probably have been classed as obese but only just. She lived until age 81 without any major health problems, she died of a DVT.

yes, lots

they all ate unprocessed non junk food though. i think this might be important

Don't know anyone obese - at least, not morbidly so.

Also don't know any lifelong smokers who lived to ripe old age . DH's dad died at 78 of lung cancer having smoked since he was 14 - and technically had given up years before but his daughter continued to buy him cigars which he smoked as a daily treat when his dw was out

On his deathbed (literally ) He made his grandsons promise never to smoke.

My grandmother was overweight all her life and must have been obese throughout the time I knew her from her late 50's until her death at 88. She was always very active and worked as a cleaner until her 70s. She had a heart condition she lived with all her later life but died from a stomach tumour and ironically lost weight in the last couple of years of her life due to that.

dh gran would probably been classed as obese until she was in her late 70's then she kinda shrunk (height and width) as she got older her appetite diminished so by the time she passed at 94 she was quite small.

My gran was obese (possibly morbidly so) she died at 70 but she did smoke as well.

Because obesity was so much rarer in our grandparents generation I don't think we will see how much obesity affected lifespan until people currently in their 50's/60's reach old age.

My father's side of the family contained some big people who lived into their 80s, but they were very active.

And they smoked. And drank.