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Thinking about 'going private' for ds's op...any advice?

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bluebear · 16/03/2004 12:41

Ds has been assessed as 'very likely' needing his tonsils and adenoid out and grommits put in..I am getting very frustrated with being passed from audiology to speech and language to peadiatrics and still haven't seen ear nose and throat yet... all disciplines seem certain that surgery is required but he isn't even on the waiting list yet
So, has anyone arranged a private operation for their child without using health insurance..do I just go to the GP and ask her to recommend a private surgeon?
Anyone got an idea how much it will cost in total..Gulp...
Thanks

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2under2 · 16/03/2004 15:51

we've done this. Found a private & NHS ENT consultant on www.drfoster.com - first saw him privately but he ended up doing quite a lot of NHS stuff on dd and eventually recommended that she has an adenoidectomy and grommets. The waiting list was 6 months so we went private to get it done before the winter. Total cost was £1500 (excluding appointments with the consultant beforehand which were £50 - £80), the price was pushed up a bit (by £300 or so) as dd has other health issues and needed to be kept in overnight, whereas normally it's just day surgery. Dd had surgery at the Leeds General Infirmary and was on the normal children's ENT ward... only difference was that someone came to swipe my credit card, and the surgeon and anaesthetist sent their invoices to us. Good luck!!!

bundle · 16/03/2004 15:57

bluebear, there's a newish technique called ablation, where the tonsils are sort of lasered away & there's a quicker recovery period, less pain - do ask whoever you see about it, it may be available & an ENT man I spoke to was impressed by it.

bluebear · 16/03/2004 16:04

Thanks!

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bluebear · 16/03/2004 16:16

Just looked up the ENT consultant that ds has been referred to ...4 month waiting list for clinic appointment...11 month waiting list for daycase surgery!!!!!

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prettycandles · 16/03/2004 20:38

Hi BB! Make sure the surgery is carried out in an NHS hospital - there is far better back-up in case of emergencies.

SueW · 16/03/2004 21:07

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Slinky · 16/03/2004 21:33

We did this with DD1 when she was coming up for 6 (she's now 8.5).

She always had extremely large tonsils and although she didn't get tonsillitus, she did get very bad ear infections. Eventually it was detected that she was suffering from quite severe hearing loss in one ear. 2 GPs and School Doctor spent most of their time referring back and forth to one another. Another problem was that she used to stop breathing during the night - only for seconds at a time, but she would keep jolting and waking herself up. This in turn made her extremely tired during the day. Her everyday life was starting to suffer - very tired, couldn't hear properly and STILL they refused to refer us to ENT.

Went to a different GP (same surgery) who was in agreement that she should be referred. We said we would pay to see the Consultant. We did this and was seen the next week. He was absolutely horrified that we hadn't been referred to see him earlier!! He told us that she had "severe respiratory obstruction" - he wasn't concerned about the hearing/large tonsils as such - just the fact that she was suffering breathing difficulties at night.

He offered to put us on the NHS waiting list, but we said we would pay. She was taken into hospital 4 weeks later and the operation in total (including an overnight stay for both of us - and all my meals etc) was £1640. At that time, we didn't have Insurance, so we paid ourselves.

I have absolutely no regrets at all - her life has improved 100%. Hearing is back completely, her breathing at night is normal (spent first week afterwards sleeping in her room). She has far more energy and looks a lot healthier.

DH had exact same problems last year and had his removed privately - although he had his done on the Health Insurance provided through work.

DD2 (4.5) is showing same signs as DD1 did at that age - stopping breathing etc so we may end up going down the same road again.

Slinky · 16/03/2004 21:34

ooh forgot to say....she did have her adenoids removed at the same time. He checked whether she needed grommits but they weren't needed.

eddm · 16/03/2004 22:11

OK, private surgery isn't covered by the same regulatory framework as the NHS so you have to do some homework. GP referral to a private consultant is a good place to start - GPs often know specialists who do a lot of the relevant operation. You don't want your child operated on by someone who doesn't do this procedure regularly and who isn't a consultant in ear, nose and throat. Dr Foster, mentioned by 2under2, can be a good place to start. Then check that any surgeon you see is on the General Medical Council's specialist register (this means they have the right training to be a consultant). GMC website is here ? not sure if specialist register is online yet, but you can call them to check a surgeon once you have a name. Then check the hospital they use: does it have full facilities inc. resuscitation just in case something goes wrong? Who will actually perform the operation - even going privately doesn't always guarantee you get the consultant. When you see a consultant, ask what complications can occur and what rate he/she gets with this surgery ? beware anyone who is too dismissive. A good consultant should be happy to discuss the process and no surgery is ever risk-free. Also, if the patient needs further surgery, if there are complications, what happens about the costs? Don't be embarrassed to talk prices - they vary dramatically between different private hospitals. Worth getting contact details for two or three consultants then phoning their secretaries to check what the price range for that op is. Ask what the cost you are quoted includes - they calculate this differently so make sure you get a price for the full package inc. surgeon, anaesthetist, 'hotel facilities' ie room and meals. Also check out the anaesthetist the same way you'd check the surgeon - they are the guys who keep you alive. Ask to see the hospital's inspection report from the National Care Standards Commission, the body which regulates private healthcare: here
Good luck, hope it all goes well.

bluebear · 16/03/2004 22:38

Thanks everyone !

Slinky - that is exactly how my ds is - the hospital have said that he is 'an extreme case' and think he has sleep apnea but are still messing around trying to organise a saturation meter to check his oxygen levels at night ( He wakes up..often.. I know!!! why do we need a meter!)

Prettycandles - You know me - wouldn't dream of letting him go somewhere with no 'back-up'...if I can get him in at 'work' I will!

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